In Reply to: "I have do desire to read at length technical articles I barely understand" posted by clifff on August 9, 2006 at 13:48:26:
You just summed most of the "crackpot" audiophile wire theory in your post.
Nice work.
One of these days the crackpots are going to realize that there is no real sound of wire, it's the driver at the source end either having the frequency response rolled off or distorting due to the reactance of the wire. Or in the case of speakercable, the reactance of the cable mixing with the reactance of the crossover. It's basic theory here folks, no magic and not rocket science.
d.b.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - thetubeguy1954 09:52:18 08/08/06 (134)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - Todd Krieger 21:55:20 08/10/06 (0)
- IF...wires sound different.... - Soundmind 11:52:52 08/10/06 (13)
- And pray tell what are those standards set so long ago? And how are they so easily undone? - Norm 12:54:32 08/10/06 (8)
- The Redcoats are coming the Redcoats are coming. - Soundmind 15:44:59 08/10/06 (7)
- As usual you have nothing to say. Just unsupported statements as usual. - Norm 16:35:47 08/10/06 (6)
- I got my information directly from Paul Revere himself nt - Soundmind 16:38:57 08/10/06 (5)
- Did the lantern meet code? - Norm 16:55:00 08/10/06 (2)
- No, that didn't come til Morse (what a dumb question.).... - Soundmind 16:59:01 08/10/06 (1)
- One if by land; two if by sea (what a dumb response, simplemind) - Norm 20:14:18 08/10/06 (0)
- Except of course for the fact that you misquoted him - E-Stat 16:49:43 08/10/06 (1)
- Yeah that too! The E-stats are coming The E-stats are coming.... - Soundmind 16:57:09 08/10/06 (0)
- So what you are saying - unclestu52 12:06:42 08/10/06 (3)
- Re: So what you are saying - Soundmind 15:44:11 08/10/06 (2)
- So what you are saying - unclestu52 18:35:03 08/10/06 (1)
- Re: So what you are saying - Soundmind 18:59:54 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - john curl 00:33:40 08/10/06 (11)
- "...who don't believe in the program" which is what.... to get at the truth or to make money? - Soundmind 09:00:02 08/10/06 (3)
- How is your research coming that shows a new measurement that correlates with what people hear? nt - Norm 12:50:44 08/10/06 (2)
- Most of those who heard of Lexington and Concord favor revolution by about 2:1 nt - Soundmind 16:40:41 08/10/06 (1)
- Keep up your research. - Norm 16:57:49 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - jneutron 07:06:54 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - andy19191 07:00:34 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - thetubeguy1954 05:45:28 08/10/06 (4)
- You crack me up. - jneutron 07:09:39 08/10/06 (3)
- A Perfect Example - thetubeguy1954 09:42:54 08/10/06 (2)
- Ask somebody else for assistance in understanding, please.. - jneutron 10:19:25 08/10/06 (1)
- That proves it - Soundmind 17:03:24 08/10/06 (0)
- Your arguments are relevant only if... - Caymus 10:13:35 08/09/06 (5)
- I was wondering why - unclestu52 11:11:19 08/09/06 (2)
- I used to believe in cable magic like you - Caymus 13:03:33 08/09/06 (1)
- Re: I used to believe in cable magic like you - thetubeguy1954 13:45:56 08/09/06 (0)
- What A Bunch Of Misinformation - thetubeguy1954 10:50:00 08/09/06 (1)
- For typical audio equipment impedances and typical short cable lengths... - Caymus 12:50:25 08/09/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - tomservo 09:54:57 08/09/06 (33)
- My AC power cord is bigger than your AC power cord and purtier too! - Richard BassNut Greene 14:01:42 08/10/06 (1)
- Re: My AC power cord is bigger than your AC power cord and purtier too! - andy19191 15:05:13 08/10/06 (0)
- One thing at a time.. - jneutron 12:23:09 08/09/06 (28)
- Didn't quite follow this sentence - E-Stat 07:01:08 08/10/06 (22)
- Guess it's local humor.. - jneutron 07:18:37 08/10/06 (21)
- I'm still struggling to find a verb for the safety clause - E-Stat 07:58:29 08/10/06 (20)
- Re: I'm still struggling to find a verb for the safety clause - jneutron 08:25:47 08/10/06 (19)
- Great answer - E-Stat 08:37:41 08/10/06 (18)
- Well, for example - jneutron 09:03:33 08/10/06 (17)
- I'm again at a loss - E-Stat 16:47:38 08/10/06 (12)
- Don't be...stay at a Holiday Inn..:-) - jneutron 07:24:36 08/11/06 (11)
- Thanks for the explanation - E-Stat 09:23:13 08/11/06 (10)
- I lied - another follow up question :) - E-Stat 09:27:08 08/11/06 (9)
- Straightwire - unclestu52 13:45:16 08/15/06 (5)
- Re: Straightwire - jneutron 06:20:02 08/16/06 (0)
- Interesting - E-Stat 14:22:54 08/15/06 (3)
- Re: Interesting - jneutron 06:22:59 08/16/06 (2)
- No prob. - jneutron 09:54:33 08/11/06 (0)
- Patent 5110999 is real, I checked - Atexanathome 09:49:33 08/11/06 (1)
- Ah, thank you. You are correct, it is not what I am talking about.nt - jneutron 10:15:36 08/11/06 (0)
- I've never wanted to be a scientist - kerr 10:48:26 08/10/06 (3)
- Well then, ... you are a great success! - Richard BassNut Greene 14:08:46 08/10/06 (2)
- What traits do you ascribe to the empirical audiophile?... - Wellfed 10:01:26 08/11/06 (0)
- I'm so proud of me! - kerr 14:39:34 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: One thing at a time.. - tomservo 17:01:39 08/09/06 (4)
- My hat's off to you gentlemen! - unclestu52 16:35:08 08/17/06 (0)
- Hi Tom - jneutron 07:00:30 08/10/06 (2)
- Re: Hi Tom - tomservo 09:26:22 08/10/06 (1)
- Re: Hi Tom - jneutron 10:05:42 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - thetubeguy1954 10:12:07 08/09/06 (1)
- Re: Why Wires Sound Different or Objectivists Got It All Wrong... - tomservo 17:02:53 08/09/06 (0)
- No one has ever proven to witnesses that wires have audible sound quality differences - Richard BassNut Greene 08:51:49 08/09/06 (11)
- Mr. Nut, please stop making these false claims... - mkuller 16:20:48 08/09/06 (1)
- "among wires of typical lengths intended for audio use" - Pat D 17:29:36 08/09/06 (0)
- Why no false positives on wires? - okiemax 10:38:34 08/09/06 (0)
- Not True! - thetubeguy1954 09:46:28 08/09/06 (7)
- True! ... You also need to stop boasting about how well you hear and just do a one-hour single-blind interconnect test - Richard BassNut Greene 09:02:55 08/10/06 (6)
- Re: True! ... You also need to stop boasting about how well you hear and just do a one-hour single-blind interconnect te - thetubeguy1954 13:59:45 08/10/06 (5)
- Your credibility is in doubt - Richard BassNut Greene 14:20:36 08/10/06 (4)
- And You Are Lying Again.... - thetubeguy1954 10:51:12 08/11/06 (3)
- I had never seen your post before but now that I have -- your so-called tests were NOT objective tests at all - Richard BassNut Greene 08:39:30 08/12/06 (2)
- How Convenient You Missed That ONE Post RBG - thetubeguy1954 11:58:03 08/13/06 (1)
- Yeah, I lost my one opportunity to disagree with it months earlier ! - Richard BassNut Greene 08:00:54 08/14/06 (0)
- You still persist in misrepresenting me. - Pat D 18:46:21 08/08/06 (0)
- Congratulations:The best troll since the last post of Aczel's Ten Biggest Lies in Audio - Atexanathome 15:56:54 08/08/06 (6)
- One man's troll... - Wellfed 21:46:47 08/09/06 (2)
- Wow! You actually talked to him! - Atexanathome 16:36:58 08/10/06 (1)
- Thanks... - Wellfed 22:35:07 08/10/06 (0)
- Re: Congratulations:The best troll since the last post of Aczel's Ten Biggest Lies in Audio - thetubeguy1954 06:02:21 08/09/06 (2)
- Did you look at the link to Don Morrison's site? - Atexanathome 18:30:03 08/09/06 (0)
- Re: Congratulations:The best troll since the last post of Aczel's Ten Biggest Lies in Audio - jneutron 07:03:35 08/09/06 (0)
- hmmm - jneutron 13:52:16 08/08/06 (22)
- Re: hmmm - thetubeguy1954 14:11:13 08/08/06 (21)
- Re: hmmm - jneutron 06:36:30 08/09/06 (20)
- Re: hmmm - thetubeguy1954 09:18:18 08/09/06 (19)
- Humpty Dumpty and Private Language - Pat D 10:52:57 08/09/06 (2)
- Re: Humpty Dumpty and Private Language - thetubeguy1954 11:06:10 08/09/06 (1)
- You need to get your facts straight. - jneutron 11:38:10 08/09/06 (0)
- PAY ATTENTION. - jneutron 10:42:45 08/09/06 (15)
- Re: PAY ATTENTION. - thetubeguy1954 10:53:00 08/09/06 (14)
- That is different - jneutron 11:25:33 08/09/06 (13)
- Another Attempt - thetubeguy1954 12:45:55 08/09/06 (12)
- Sigh.. - jneutron 13:08:34 08/09/06 (11)
- Try Answering The Question. - thetubeguy1954 13:38:28 08/09/06 (10)
- Re: Try Answering The Question. - jneutron 14:03:03 08/09/06 (0)
- "I have do desire to read at length technical articles I barely understand" - clifff 13:48:26 08/09/06 (8)
- Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn..nt - jneutron 10:32:57 08/10/06 (4)
- ROTFLMAO nt. - Dan Banquer 15:37:30 08/10/06 (3)
- I wish I did. Unfortunately I don't get that one :-( nt - clifff 23:39:51 08/10/06 (2)
- Re: I wish I did. Unfortunately I don't get that one :-( nt - jneutron 06:07:20 08/11/06 (1)
- Ha! That one didn't travel across the pond! nt - clifff 07:22:35 08/11/06 (0)
- Re: "I have do desire to read at length technical articles I barely understand" - Dan Banquer 15:29:43 08/09/06 (2)
- Abso...f...lutely (nt) - Bertie_Livingston 08:24:13 08/13/06 (0)
- Re: "I have do desire to read at length technical articles I barely understand" - thetubeguy1954 12:03:41 08/11/06 (0)
- Audible cable differences - kerr 13:29:47 08/08/06 (8)
- On wire::::: "the differences are very subtle" - Richard BassNut Greene 09:08:22 08/10/06 (0)
- You are WRONG! - thetubeguy1954 06:57:02 08/09/06 (3)
- I think you missed my point(s) - kerr 08:03:38 08/09/06 (2)
- Re: I think you missed my point(s) - thetubeguy1954 09:43:10 08/09/06 (1)
- Re: I think you missed my point(s) - kerr 10:41:05 08/09/06 (0)
- Re: Audible cable differences - Pat D 14:02:14 08/08/06 (2)
- Re: Audible cable differences - kerr 18:53:51 08/08/06 (1)
- Re: Audible cable differences - Pat D 19:07:58 08/08/06 (0)
- Re: both sides can be full of it at times - mls-stl 12:22:31 08/08/06 (14)
- Right on: when does it become audible? - Pat D 13:04:22 08/08/06 (13)
- Re: Right on: when does it become audible? - Doc Gaw 07:38:46 08/09/06 (12)
- Re: Right on: when does it become audible? - Pat D 09:17:58 08/09/06 (11)
- Something I gotta know - kerr 10:45:02 08/09/06 (1)
- Re: Something I gotta know - Pat D 15:18:30 08/09/06 (0)
- Re: Right on: when does it become audible? - thetubeguy1954 09:55:18 08/09/06 (8)
- So what's your point? - Pat D 07:21:28 08/10/06 (7)
- The Point Is.... - thetubeguy1954 12:56:04 08/11/06 (6)
- "ONLY you and RBG keep insisting .." - clifff 00:58:03 08/14/06 (0)
- Well now, - Pat D 16:53:07 08/11/06 (4)
- Re: Well now, - thetubeguy1954 12:12:39 08/13/06 (3)
- Re: Well now, - Pat D 15:40:43 08/13/06 (2)
- You Know The Answer To Your Question - thetubeguy1954 05:55:59 08/14/06 (1)
- Re: You Know The Answer To Your Question - Pat D 07:36:29 08/14/06 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: "I have do desire to read at length technical articles I barely understand" - Dan Banquer 15:29:43 08/09/06 (2)
- Abso...f...lutely (nt) - Bertie_Livingston 08:24:13 08/13/06 (0)
- Re: "I have do desire to read at length technical articles I barely understand" - thetubeguy1954 12:03:41 08/11/06 (0)