In Reply to: Re: "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" posted by bradp on February 8, 2007 at 17:49:12:
...but I propose that the line be redrawn back to where it once was, circa 1988, when cables were snake oil, CDs were perfect and needed no foolish "tweaking", and Absolute Polarity was unhearable.Those were the days!
clark, speaking for science
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" - clarkjohnsen 14:28:34 02/08/07 (76)
- Need an overview of the biz - tomservo 06:44:05 02/10/07 (2)
- "Subconsciously, they then drive in a way which is more conservative." Exactly! And in audio... - clarkjohnsen 09:56:32 02/10/07 (0)
- ..and then there are the bold innovators who sell both Audio Transmogrifiers AND Mileage Enhancers - AJinFLA 08:40:04 02/10/07 (0)
- Hey Clark, How's that Reality Check CD Duplicator working out for you.... - vettracer 20:36:41 02/09/07 (8)
- LOL, that's a good one. I had seen the Autodeske seance edge grinding ritual article - AJinFLA 05:59:28 02/10/07 (0)
- Thanks for the laugh and the perspective :-) - andy_c 21:32:53 02/09/07 (6)
- "Clark is just trying to up the hit count of the linked page." Nope. Not an owner there. BUT... - clarkjohnsen 10:03:39 02/10/07 (4)
- "Unable to confront the issues, these sorts indulge themselves instead in ad hominem ineffective invective" - vettracer 11:56:26 02/10/07 (3)
- "Kinda like looking in the mirror Clark?" As I said... lame, lame. - clarkjohnsen 12:12:49 02/10/07 (2)
- Re: "Kinda like looking in the mirror Clark?" As I said... lame, lame. - vettracer 15:15:27 02/11/07 (1)
- "That description seems like more than just a standalone duplicator." "Seems"... to you. However... - clarkjohnsen 11:39:39 02/12/07 (0)
- Does your objective statement require proof?... - Wellfed 09:17:08 02/10/07 (0)
- I thought it was the unmentioned psychologists who were right? Of course they can't measure everything either - AJinFLA 16:08:59 02/09/07 (0)
- These "mass generalizations" are beneath you Clark. - Presto 15:51:36 02/09/07 (1)
- Try reading it -- I didn't write a single word. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:05:31 02/10/07 (0)
- Re: "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" - ontrack2@gmail.com 14:33:35 02/08/07 (20)
- Re: "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" - Burns 15:17:23 02/08/07 (19)
- Your statement is paternalistic in extremis! - risabet 16:54:41 02/08/07 (16)
- "To listen and judge for themselves" CANNOT BE ALLOWED. Call the government! Call... - clarkjohnsen 11:00:09 02/09/07 (0)
- Re: Your statement is paternalistic in extremis! - Tom Brennan 17:13:33 02/08/07 (14)
- Re: Your statement is paternalistic in extremis! - tomservo 08:24:39 02/11/07 (0)
- Re: Your statement is paternalistic in extremis! - welly 18:39:16 02/08/07 (10)
- US mail order law = 30 day money back guarantee. nt - jensw 19:03:30 02/09/07 (0)
- "The company in question offers a 30 day money back guarantee." All part of the scheme. - clarkjohnsen 11:11:00 02/09/07 (1)
- LOL! Good one! - kerr 12:06:48 02/09/07 (0)
- Re: Your statement is paternalistic in extremis! - Tom Brennan 18:50:42 02/08/07 (6)
- laws, what are they? - Bruce from DC 08:09:22 02/09/07 (5)
- I doubt it's an accident either... - Wellfed 08:44:05 02/09/07 (3)
- That, and not to forget that at the AES convention in 1991 the lawyers and psychologists were agitating for... - clarkjohnsen 11:16:09 02/09/07 (2)
- Re: That, and not to forget that at the AES convention in 1991 the lawyers and psychologists were agitating for... - bwaslo 10:18:07 02/14/07 (1)
- Exactly my point re: the AES. But at that time... - clarkjohnsen 10:46:30 02/14/07 (0)
- Re: Perhaps you're thinking of the wrong - geoffkait 09:59:55 02/09/07 (0)
- Correct... - Wellfed 19:41:48 02/08/07 (1)
- "Freedom"? Feh! Freedom is for fools. Listen to us: - clarkjohnsen 11:05:00 02/09/07 (0)
- Re: "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" - andy19191 00:56:33 02/09/07 (0)
- I don't remember asking for a nanny. nt - markrohr 03:58:04 02/09/07 (0)
- "do not care what is going on with a component or tweak, as long as it is not... - musetap 14:54:27 02/08/07 (2)
- "Enjoyed that article, and will probably equally enjoy the ruckus." Bah! That article had nothing... - clarkjohnsen 11:21:37 02/09/07 (1)
- Good Man! About time you saw the light, heard the call, aligned - up - musetap 12:17:47 02/09/07 (0)
- and the point of that article is ... - porky_pig_jr 15:27:59 02/08/07 (0)
- I'd love to see the conversation that occured prior to the decision - bjh 16:07:14 02/08/07 (0)
- Re: "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" - bradp 17:49:12 02/08/07 (1)
- "The CLC and pebbles have crossed the line on tweeks." Absolutely. Not only that... - clarkjohnsen 11:26:13 02/09/07 (0)
- Who is right? It is easier to point out who is wrong. - justacoder 18:34:42 02/08/07 (16)
- I do not understand you - jensw 20:06:03 02/09/07 (0)
- "PhD’s, Physicists, and other people who should know better..." Hey waitaminnit pal. - clarkjohnsen 11:35:59 02/09/07 (5)
- I presume you're joking... It is so sad that they teach people numbers and equations in schools, but not how to think... - justacoder 19:28:13 02/09/07 (4)
- Sour grapes. (nt) - Jim Austin 16:22:46 02/10/07 (0)
- WATCH OUT! Jim Austin, PhD, may try to take you down in Stereophile. - clarkjohnsen 10:10:41 02/10/07 (1)
- Yip yip! (nt) - Jim Austin 16:23:22 02/10/07 (0)
- Re: I presume you're joking... It is so sad that they teach people numbers and equations in schools, but not how to thin - john curl 19:57:24 02/09/07 (0)
- So if we dismiss witchcraft out of hand - Tom Brennan 18:44:50 02/08/07 (5)
- Closed minded is a pejorative. Perhaps expedient is more like it. And not scientific in any case. - justacoder 11:18:10 02/09/07 (4)
- Curious - kerr 17:15:01 02/09/07 (3)
- In '82 or so I got the TI 99/4A PC and that was it... - justacoder 18:51:03 02/09/07 (2)
- Have you ever experienced moments when time seems to stop? Or anyway... - clarkjohnsen 10:17:07 02/10/07 (0)
- The only thing I'm positive about Chi is... - kerr 07:24:17 02/10/07 (0)
- The 4 steps you linked to are great but doing the first 2 only do not cut it. - fortysomething 19:47:05 02/08/07 (2)
- ..so true, so true.. - ontrack2@gmail.com 21:30:08 02/08/07 (1)
- Luckily they let physists in to interpret the results of their particle accerator tests... and not just lay people :-) - justacoder 11:25:38 02/09/07 (0)
- The quote forgets the aspects of inflated price and dubious explanations for the "effects" (nt) - suits_me 19:19:10 02/08/07 (0)
- The fact that it supposedly works by*playing with your mind*says it all!-- NT - lancelot 19:39:01 02/08/07 (2)
- Lancelot what are you trying to say?-- NT - fortysomething 22:06:47 02/08/07 (1)
- read the article-doesn't claim to affect components or room, only listeners. NT - lancelot 08:37:59 02/09/07 (0)
- Ahhh yes... "knowing" - SF tech 20:36:00 02/08/07 (2)
- Re: Ahhh yes... "knowing" - Presto 14:06:57 02/09/07 (0)
- Excellent post (nt). - fortysomething 22:04:49 02/08/07 (0)
- Circadian rhythm (body clock) makes more sense (nt) - old geezer 01:14:33 02/09/07 (0)
- The properties of this recurring argument are established - soulfood 04:56:31 02/09/07 (0)
- That's Not the Problem..... - Todd Krieger 05:45:44 02/09/07 (2)
- So if engineers hadn't defended the sound/design of digital audio no one would call things like the CLC nutty? - sjb 09:02:29 02/09/07 (1)
- It Would Still Be Deemed "Nutty"...... - Todd Krieger 10:17:19 02/09/07 (0)
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- Ditto; it's a yawner -- same old same old - Feanor 08:31:14 02/09/07 (1)
- And even then, if you can't hear it, it's either your hearing, your equipment, or both. (nt) - Markw* 08:36:44 02/09/07 (0)
- They know some things can be measured but are not audible while others can't be measured and are also not audible - Richard BassNut Greene 09:18:10 02/09/07 (0)
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- "The CLC and pebbles have crossed the line on tweeks." Absolutely. Not only that... - clarkjohnsen 11:26:13 02/09/07 (0)