So if engineers hadn't defended the sound/design of digital audio no one would call things like the CLC nutty? - sjb

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Topic - "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" - clarkjohnsen 14:28:34 02/08/07 (76)

Need an overview of the biz - tomservo 06:44:05 02/10/07 (2)

"Subconsciously, they then drive in a way which is more conservative." Exactly! And in audio... - clarkjohnsen 09:56:32 02/10/07 (0)

..and then there are the bold innovators who sell both Audio Transmogrifiers AND Mileage Enhancers - AJinFLA 08:40:04 02/10/07 (0)

Hey Clark, How's that Reality Check CD Duplicator working out for you.... - vettracer 20:36:41 02/09/07 (8)

LOL, that's a good one. I had seen the Autodeske seance edge grinding ritual article - AJinFLA 05:59:28 02/10/07 (0)

Thanks for the laugh and the perspective :-) - andy_c 21:32:53 02/09/07 (6)

"Clark is just trying to up the hit count of the linked page." Nope. Not an owner there. BUT... - clarkjohnsen 10:03:39 02/10/07 (4)

"Unable to confront the issues, these sorts indulge themselves instead in ad hominem ineffective invective" - vettracer 11:56:26 02/10/07 (3)

"Kinda like looking in the mirror Clark?" As I said... lame, lame. - clarkjohnsen 12:12:49 02/10/07 (2)

Re: "Kinda like looking in the mirror Clark?" As I said... lame, lame. - vettracer 15:15:27 02/11/07 (1)

"That description seems like more than just a standalone duplicator." "Seems"... to you. However... - clarkjohnsen 11:39:39 02/12/07 (0)

Does your objective statement require proof?... - Wellfed 09:17:08 02/10/07 (0)

I thought it was the unmentioned psychologists who were right? Of course they can't measure everything either - AJinFLA 16:08:59 02/09/07 (0)

These "mass generalizations" are beneath you Clark. - Presto 15:51:36 02/09/07 (1)

Try reading it -- I didn't write a single word. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:05:31 02/10/07 (0)

Re: "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" - ontrack2@gmail.com 14:33:35 02/08/07 (20)

Re: "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" - Burns 15:17:23 02/08/07 (19)

Your statement is paternalistic in extremis! - risabet 16:54:41 02/08/07 (16)

"To listen and judge for themselves" CANNOT BE ALLOWED. Call the government! Call... - clarkjohnsen 11:00:09 02/09/07 (0)

Re: Your statement is paternalistic in extremis! - Tom Brennan 17:13:33 02/08/07 (14)

Re: Your statement is paternalistic in extremis! - tomservo 08:24:39 02/11/07 (0)

Re: Your statement is paternalistic in extremis! - welly 18:39:16 02/08/07 (10)

US mail order law = 30 day money back guarantee. nt - jensw 19:03:30 02/09/07 (0)

"The company in question offers a 30 day money back guarantee." All part of the scheme. - clarkjohnsen 11:11:00 02/09/07 (1)

LOL! Good one! - kerr 12:06:48 02/09/07 (0)

Re: Your statement is paternalistic in extremis! - Tom Brennan 18:50:42 02/08/07 (6)

laws, what are they? - Bruce from DC 08:09:22 02/09/07 (5)

I doubt it's an accident either... - Wellfed 08:44:05 02/09/07 (3)

That, and not to forget that at the AES convention in 1991 the lawyers and psychologists were agitating for... - clarkjohnsen 11:16:09 02/09/07 (2)

Re: That, and not to forget that at the AES convention in 1991 the lawyers and psychologists were agitating for... - bwaslo 10:18:07 02/14/07 (1)

Exactly my point re: the AES. But at that time... - clarkjohnsen 10:46:30 02/14/07 (0)

Re: Perhaps you're thinking of the wrong - geoffkait 09:59:55 02/09/07 (0)

Correct... - Wellfed 19:41:48 02/08/07 (1)

"Freedom"? Feh! Freedom is for fools. Listen to us: - clarkjohnsen 11:05:00 02/09/07 (0)

Re: "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" - andy19191 00:56:33 02/09/07 (0)

I don't remember asking for a nanny. nt - markrohr 03:58:04 02/09/07 (0)

"do not care what is going on with a component or tweak, as long as it is not... - musetap 14:54:27 02/08/07 (2)

"Enjoyed that article, and will probably equally enjoy the ruckus." Bah! That article had nothing... - clarkjohnsen 11:21:37 02/09/07 (1)

Good Man! About time you saw the light, heard the call, aligned - up - musetap 12:17:47 02/09/07 (0)

and the point of that article is ... - porky_pig_jr 15:27:59 02/08/07 (0)

I'd love to see the conversation that occured prior to the decision - bjh 16:07:14 02/08/07 (0)

Re: "Who's right, ahhh, the engineers of course. *They know it all.*" - bradp 17:49:12 02/08/07 (1)

"The CLC and pebbles have crossed the line on tweeks." Absolutely. Not only that... - clarkjohnsen 11:26:13 02/09/07 (0)

Who is right? It is easier to point out who is wrong. - justacoder 18:34:42 02/08/07 (16)

I do not understand you - jensw 20:06:03 02/09/07 (0)

"PhDâ€™s, Physicists, and other people who should know better..." Hey waitaminnit pal. - clarkjohnsen 11:35:59 02/09/07 (5)

I presume you're joking... It is so sad that they teach people numbers and equations in schools, but not how to think... - justacoder 19:28:13 02/09/07 (4)

Sour grapes. (nt) - Jim Austin 16:22:46 02/10/07 (0)

WATCH OUT! Jim Austin, PhD, may try to take you down in Stereophile. - clarkjohnsen 10:10:41 02/10/07 (1)

Yip yip! (nt) - Jim Austin 16:23:22 02/10/07 (0)

Re: I presume you're joking... It is so sad that they teach people numbers and equations in schools, but not how to thin - john curl 19:57:24 02/09/07 (0)

So if we dismiss witchcraft out of hand - Tom Brennan 18:44:50 02/08/07 (5)

Closed minded is a pejorative. Perhaps expedient is more like it. And not scientific in any case. - justacoder 11:18:10 02/09/07 (4)

Curious - kerr 17:15:01 02/09/07 (3)

In '82 or so I got the TI 99/4A PC and that was it... - justacoder 18:51:03 02/09/07 (2)

Have you ever experienced moments when time seems to stop? Or anyway... - clarkjohnsen 10:17:07 02/10/07 (0)

The only thing I'm positive about Chi is... - kerr 07:24:17 02/10/07 (0)

The 4 steps you linked to are great but doing the first 2 only do not cut it. - fortysomething 19:47:05 02/08/07 (2)

..so true, so true.. - ontrack2@gmail.com 21:30:08 02/08/07 (1)

Luckily they let physists in to interpret the results of their particle accerator tests... and not just lay people :-) - justacoder 11:25:38 02/09/07 (0)

The quote forgets the aspects of inflated price and dubious explanations for the "effects" (nt) - suits_me 19:19:10 02/08/07 (0)

The fact that it supposedly works by*playing with your mind*says it all!-- NT - lancelot 19:39:01 02/08/07 (2)

Lancelot what are you trying to say?-- NT - fortysomething 22:06:47 02/08/07 (1)

read the article-doesn't claim to affect components or room, only listeners. NT - lancelot 08:37:59 02/09/07 (0)

Ahhh yes... "knowing" - SF tech 20:36:00 02/08/07 (2)

Re: Ahhh yes... "knowing" - Presto 14:06:57 02/09/07 (0)

Excellent post (nt). - fortysomething 22:04:49 02/08/07 (0)

Circadian rhythm (body clock) makes more sense (nt) - old geezer 01:14:33 02/09/07 (0)

The properties of this recurring argument are established - soulfood 04:56:31 02/09/07 (0)

That's Not the Problem..... - Todd Krieger 05:45:44 02/09/07 (2)

So if engineers hadn't defended the sound/design of digital audio no one would call things like the CLC nutty? - sjb 09:02:29 02/09/07 (1)

It Would Still Be Deemed "Nutty"...... - Todd Krieger 10:17:19 02/09/07 (0)

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Ditto; it's a yawner -- same old same old - Feanor 08:31:14 02/09/07 (1)

And even then, if you can't hear it, it's either your hearing, your equipment, or both. (nt) - Markw* 08:36:44 02/09/07 (0)

They know some things can be measured but are not audible while others can't be measured and are also not audible - Richard BassNut Greene 09:18:10 02/09/07 (0)

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So if engineers hadn't defended the sound/design of digital audio no one would call things like the CLC nutty? - sjb 09:02:29 02/09/07 (1)

It Would Still Be Deemed "Nutty"...... - Todd Krieger 10:17:19 02/09/07 (0)