Let Me Ask A Question....

Posted by thetubeguy1954 (A) on June 1, 2006 at 14:04:25

I'm going to attempt this debate from a different perspective and at the same time try to remove any previous feelings about past posts, I've either written or read.

So if either Real JJ and/or Pat D would care to answer an honest question, honestly, instead of tearing the question itself apart, I'll attempt to ask a question that in my mind at least, keeps me from believing Objectivists claims that Subjectivists are imagining or fooling themselves when they claim to hear differences.

As a Subjectivist I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I've listened to music when a new audio component was introduced and yet hard as I tried I couldn't determine if I heard any differences to speak of. Yet insert a different component and I here differences!

So given that my biases, preferences and expectations are always with me, why is it that at these times they aren't causing me to imagine or fool myself into believing I hear differences, if that is, at other times they do cause me to imagine or fool myself into believing I hear differences, like Objectivists suggest?

Afterall nothing changed, it's the same room, same group of people with their same unique sets of biases, preferences and expectations, same unmatched spl levels, etc. yet one component I hear differences and another I don't know if I hear differences.

Please explain why my biases, preferences and expectations don't always cause to imagine or believe I hear differences....

Thetubeguy1954

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Topic - Let Me Ask A Question.... - thetubeguy1954 14:04:25 06/01/06 (24)

Re: Let Me Ask A Question.... - okiemax 20:16:10 06/01/06 (6)

Re: Let Me Ask A Question.... - okiemax 07:20:32 06/02/06 (1)

The above was intended for tubeguy (nt) - okiemax 07:30:13 06/02/06 (0)

Re: Let Me Ask A Question.... - thetubeguy1954 05:55:45 06/02/06 (1)

Replied in wrong place - okiemax 07:25:31 06/02/06 (0)

" I listen to determine if I like it better than what it would be replacing." - Robert Hamel 21:36:44 06/01/06 (1)

Re: " I listen to determine if I like it better than what it would be replacing." - okiemax 23:39:05 06/01/06 (0)

Because the whole problem is probabilistic... - real_jj 14:36:12 06/01/06 (13)

Re: Because the whole problem is probabilistic... - thetubeguy1954 06:28:37 06/02/06 (10)

Etc... - real_jj 11:36:17 06/02/06 (4)

Re: Etc... - thetubeguy1954 13:35:57 06/02/06 (3)

Hmmm... - real_jj 13:58:46 06/02/06 (2)

Re: Hmmm... - thetubeguy1954 06:05:12 06/05/06 (1)

Well, all it takes is... - real_jj 11:41:33 06/05/06 (0)

That's a list of questions. I'll have to address them 1 at a time. - real_jj 10:00:44 06/02/06 (1)

Re: That's a list of questions. I'll have to address them 1 at a time. - thetubeguy1954 10:10:49 06/02/06 (0)

The "probabilistic" argument can be circumvented. - clarkjohnsen 07:48:24 06/02/06 (2)

That's exactly what blind tests do, Clark, and you know it. - real_jj 10:01:30 06/02/06 (1)

"jj always knows better"! Now, about the tubeguy's question... nt - clarkjohnsen 11:31:54 06/02/06 (0)

A question - Robert Hamel 15:55:55 06/01/06 (1)

That's a good question. - real_jj 16:16:11 06/01/06 (1)

Please don't feed the animals....(nt) - mkuller 14:31:16 06/01/06 (2)

Why are you trying to intrude into a real discussion? - real_jj 14:36:48 06/01/06 (1)

Re: Why are you trying to intrude into a real discussion? - Dan Banquer 15:36:13 06/01/06 (0)

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