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In Reply to: Intelligent Chip roundup #2 posted by KlausR. on March 24, 2005 at 23:25:15:
Does the manufacturer say this works on all CDs or only aluminum sandwich types? Have any proponents claimed improvements on various dye CD-Rs or gold discs?
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Intelligent Chip roundup #2 - KlausR. 23:25:15 03/24/05 (153)
- Re: Intelligent Chip roundup #2 - unclestu52 00:19:07 03/25/05 (2)
- "All could hear the difference and preferred the 'treated' disc." Well of course they did! - clarkjohnsen 11:42:57 03/25/05 (1)
- "I don't notice any outraged response to you observation so far" - BS64 15:36:43 03/25/05 (0)
- How do you do research and development of a product, - B. King 07:38:23 03/25/05 (16)
- I can imagine that... - KlausR. 08:09:23 03/25/05 (15)
- Re: I can imagine that... - yotacowboy 11:19:21 03/25/05 (14)
- Do we need Bertalanffy to come figure this whole thing out for us ;-) [nt] - Wellfed 11:47:53 03/25/05 (2)
- von Bertalanffy you said? Why are you bringing Systems Theory, when yotacowboy speaks of... - orejones 10:26:36 03/26/05 (1)
- Just kidding about Bertalanffy, he is dead after all, but my allusion was to understanding complexity... - Wellfed 10:47:02 03/26/05 (0)
- Um, not exactly..... - JimL 22:55:38 03/25/05 (8)
- "...pretty laughable at this point." Yep. It's at the very same point where... - clarkjohnsen 07:44:09 03/26/05 (7)
- Clark, you will note that I have deliberately NOT.... - JimL 09:37:46 03/26/05 (6)
- "...no MEASURABLE difference that anyone has claimed." So what? - clarkjohnsen 10:02:33 03/26/05 (5)
- Your last sentence is exactly my point.... - JimL 13:18:04 03/26/05 (4)
- "Quantifiable measurements are data." Fine, have it your way, BUT... - clarkjohnsen 09:00:10 03/28/05 (3)
- I agree completely with your first paragraph.... - JimL 14:42:43 03/28/05 (2)
- "Do you?" No; just as you suggest, I haven't the foggiest. - clarkjohnsen 14:58:32 03/28/05 (1)
- Glad to here it. Back to Einstein.... - JimL 15:31:42 03/28/05 (0)
- It was a fun read! Thanks. It stands in stark contrast to the sneering, scornful attitude adopted by the antagonistas. - clarkjohnsen 07:47:40 03/26/05 (1)
- Re: "That's not the deal." - Jim Willis 16:38:06 03/27/05 (0)
- Re: Intelligent Chip roundup #2 - Blues_man 09:03:51 03/25/05 (0)
- So then, why is it effective?... - Wellfed 11:33:54 03/25/05 (37)
- IT ISN'T! Don't you listen to ANYONE? YOU FOOL! nt - clarkjohnsen 11:46:43 03/25/05 (0)
- Hi, Wellfed.... - pburant 12:56:04 03/25/05 (9)
- Ya, what Pete said! (nt) - fortysomething 13:03:53 03/25/05 (0)
- Pete... - Wellfed 14:09:51 03/25/05 (1)
- Re: Pete... - pburant 08:31:04 03/29/05 (0)
- Pete, I offered Wellfed a similar, actually more generous, offer months ago………. - three_sox 18:44:41 03/25/05 (5)
- Pete has credibility... - Wellfed 19:29:59 03/25/05 (4)
- I stand by the context of my post............ - three_sox 21:53:50 03/25/05 (3)
- Please accept my apologies... - Wellfed 23:11:46 03/25/05 (2)
- Re: Please accept my apologies.... - three_sox 23:59:41 03/25/05 (1)
- In any event.... - Wellfed 08:22:13 03/26/05 (0)
- Whether it's effective or not is the subject of all this debate. - B. King 13:07:03 03/25/05 (13)
- We all make our choices... - Wellfed 20:38:46 03/25/05 (0)
- "The manufacturers cannot explain how it works." And you know this, how, exactly? - clarkjohnsen 07:51:39 03/26/05 (9)
- Re: Simple, Mr. Johnsen: just like on a jury witness stand.... - BluesMan 08:55:49 03/26/05 (1)
- "Lack of trust in that person's integrity. . . where you, yourself, are quickly heading." I beg your pardon! - clarkjohnsen 09:14:57 03/26/05 (0)
- If you could point me to some explanation by the manufacturer... - B. King 09:55:20 03/26/05 (6)
- "...not merely anecdotes by some who may have a vested interest in their commercial success." LOL! - clarkjohnsen 10:21:22 03/26/05 (5)
- Oh, I get it. - B. King 12:06:08 03/26/05 (3)
- So you concede the point. Excellent choice. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:14:17 03/26/05 (2)
- If delusion, snobbery, elitism, and obvuscation is your way of operating, - B. King 13:36:57 03/26/05 (1)
- "Delusion, snobbery, elitism, and obvuscation..." Quite the line-up there. - clarkjohnsen 09:04:18 03/28/05 (0)
- Re: More to the point... - Jim Willis 07:22:43 03/27/05 (0)
- You used "fact " and "manufacturers" in the same sentence. - soulfood 10:02:22 03/26/05 (1)
- Sorry about that. - B. King 12:08:22 03/26/05 (0)
- how do you know better? - tunenut 16:40:39 03/25/05 (1)
- I have done some simple blind tests... - Wellfed 17:49:19 03/25/05 (0)
- Who has proved that it's effective? - KlausR. 21:54:03 03/25/05 (9)
- The mechanics... - Wellfed 22:38:00 03/25/05 (8)
- Re: The mechanics... - KlausR. 23:18:45 03/25/05 (7)
- "...not even those people who should, i.e. the manufacturer." And you know that, how? - clarkjohnsen 07:33:08 03/26/05 (6)
- Proprietary? - KlausR. 11:00:32 03/26/05 (5)
- "Do I have to mistrust my own judgement just because you have written you book?" Yes. - clarkjohnsen 11:36:01 03/26/05 (4)
- I did not know that you had a direct link to my brain... - KlausR. 00:45:59 03/27/05 (3)
- It's either you, or your system is loaded with (unmeasured) phase distortion. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:22:01 03/28/05 (2)
- Then it must be me... - KlausR. 12:23:26 03/28/05 (1)
- "Beyond doubt"... low phase distortion? And you know this, how?... nt - clarkjohnsen 14:30:25 03/28/05 (0)
- "How can they use a property of these dots which property has not yet been identified?" The same way... - clarkjohnsen 11:45:11 03/25/05 (35)
- A Modest Proposal For My Friend, Clark: - regmac 12:57:03 03/25/05 (12)
- Dearest Reggie -- - clarkjohnsen 13:22:12 03/25/05 (0)
- Ouch! Dude.... - Sordidman 18:47:25 03/25/05 (9)
- Clark as victim? - andy_c 19:49:52 03/25/05 (8)
- John Curl Comments... - Wellfed 20:04:39 03/25/05 (4)
- Ahh, thanks - andy_c 20:31:51 03/25/05 (3)
- I haven't followed this aspect of the debate... - Wellfed 20:53:47 03/25/05 (2)
- No prob... - andy_c 21:04:37 03/25/05 (0)
- "Maybe no one has managed to ask him nicely. ;-) " Quite right. - clarkjohnsen 07:24:21 03/26/05 (0)
- "[Clark's] extremely rude response to a legitimate question." LOL! - clarkjohnsen 07:29:47 03/26/05 (2)
- Re: "[Clark's] extremely rude response to a legitimate question." LOL! - regmac 08:13:20 03/26/05 (1)
- "I don't know why you even bother responding to regmac... " / mkuller - clarkjohnsen 10:36:42 03/26/05 (0)
- YAK Chips? LOL! (nt) - Ivan303 20:49:31 03/25/05 (0)
- Not a good analogy. - B. King 13:10:10 03/25/05 (1)
- "... is very well understood." Operative word -- "is". - clarkjohnsen 13:16:22 03/25/05 (0)
- Re: "How can they use a property of these dots which property has not yet been identified?" The same way... - dave derrick 18:54:21 03/25/05 (8)
- "If more people say it can't possibly work than say it can..." The problem you face is this: - clarkjohnsen 06:41:00 03/26/05 (7)
- Re: "If more people say it can't possibly work than say it can..." The problem you face is this: - david derrick 08:17:57 03/26/05 (3)
- Dood, you're the one who made the assessment originally. Are you withdrawing it now? Let us know. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:42:36 03/26/05 (2)
- Re: Dood, you're the one who made the assessment originally. Are you withdrawing it now? Let us know. nt - dave derrick 11:00:00 03/26/05 (1)
- "You've made... replies ad infinitum." LOL! - clarkjohnsen 11:19:00 03/26/05 (0)
- Re: "Utter nonsense" - Jim Willis 06:49:46 03/27/05 (2)
- "You have no evidence of this at all." And what's your evidence of that? - clarkjohnsen 09:26:09 03/28/05 (1)
- Re: Your cute quips... - Jim Willis 10:39:27 03/28/05 (0)
- Are you sure "constituency" is word you ment to use?........ - three_sox 20:40:35 03/25/05 (3)
- Re: Are you sure "constituency" is word you ment to use?........ - clarkjohnsen 06:51:20 03/26/05 (2)
- Thank you for your responce........ - three_sox 20:34:42 03/26/05 (1)
- I don't take your point about the permanent validity of science. - clarkjohnsen 09:20:04 03/28/05 (0)
- Re: "How can they use a property of these dots which property has not yet been identified?" The same way... - morricab 04:19:43 03/26/05 (6)
- "Are most people hearing the difference? No." That's a total and utter misrepresentation of the facts. - clarkjohnsen 07:16:04 03/26/05 (5)
- Re: "Are most people hearing the difference? No." That's a total and utter misrepresentation of the facts. - morricab 10:40:39 03/26/05 (4)
- "I love how you bring up examples of very OLD science to make your points." I do too! - clarkjohnsen 11:05:18 03/26/05 (3)
- Re: "I love how you bring up examples of very OLD science to make your points." I do too! - Dan Banquer 12:57:39 03/26/05 (0)
- Re: "I love how you bring up examples of very OLD science to make your points." I do too! - morricab 01:28:18 03/27/05 (1)
- You're creating "straw men" to knock me down. Be my guest. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:23:02 03/28/05 (0)
- Re: Intelligent Chip roundup #2 - MylesJ 15:32:44 03/25/05 (6)
- The effect on two different CD-Rs was quite prominent in my experience. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:21:44 03/26/05 (5)
- " was quite prominent in my experience." & "Science has spoken" Mr.Johnsen's hypocricy. - BluesMan 08:24:50 03/26/05 (2)
- The question was asked, I gave an honest response. Then what am I met with? - clarkjohnsen 08:43:56 03/26/05 (0)
- Re: You are "met" with your own hypocricy: First... - BluesMan 16:58:47 03/26/05 (0)
- Re: The effect on two different CD-Rs was quite prominent in my experience. nt - MylesJ 17:14:03 03/26/05 (1)
- Good questions all. Asked them myself! For now you must rest content... - clarkjohnsen 09:09:23 03/28/05 (0)
- Most intelligent discussion so far - Tuckers 18:37:57 03/25/05 (20)
- I agree this is one of the better, if not the best, discussion on the GSIC... - Wellfed 19:06:20 03/25/05 (4)
- It is claimed to alter the CD! Nothing else! nt - clifff 07:35:18 03/26/05 (0)
- Re: I agree this is one of the better, if not the best, discussion on the GSIC... - Tuckers 16:01:48 03/26/05 (2)
- Thanks for the reply... - Wellfed 17:39:29 03/27/05 (1)
- Re: Thanks for the reply... - Tuckers 23:53:02 03/27/05 (0)
- Re: player - geoffkait 07:36:10 03/26/05 (0)
- "I don't believe it works." Science has spoken! - clarkjohnsen 07:55:08 03/26/05 (12)
- gimme a break - BS64 09:30:43 03/26/05 (11)
- I quoted him exactly, you substituted. I rest my case. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:54:54 03/26/05 (10)
- huh? - BS64 11:29:29 03/26/05 (6)
- In that case, it shows up differently on my screen. - clarkjohnsen 11:40:21 03/26/05 (5)
- does it not say in quotation marks... - BS64 11:47:54 03/26/05 (4)
- Better go back and read your own post, as that's what I was discussing. - clarkjohnsen 12:11:50 03/26/05 (3)
- you are correct - BS64 12:39:31 03/26/05 (2)
- "In the eyes of a vengeful defendant..." - clarkjohnsen 12:46:39 03/26/05 (1)
- I "believe" it depends what you "think" about "think"...) - tunenut 14:42:17 03/26/05 (0)
- my mistake - BS64 11:59:07 03/26/05 (0)
- Here's the quote: - B. King 13:34:05 03/26/05 (1)
- Begone! I quoted him accurately, the BS fellow did not. Save it for him. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:01:48 03/28/05 (0)
- Then you should take a look at this . . . - Tuckers 11:57:35 03/26/05 (0)
- I'll ride my hobby horse. - RobertB53 20:36:20 03/25/05 (3)
- I have hardwood floors throughout... - Wellfed 21:04:21 03/25/05 (2)
- Approaching this with open minds ... - Dave Pogue 03:57:32 03/26/05 (1)
- Thanks for your input Dave... - Wellfed 08:15:45 03/26/05 (0)
- I am suing after it ruined my CD collection - AlphaGeek 08:31:57 03/26/05 (24)
- "A passive device that claims to rearrange the codes." Where do you people get this stuff? - clarkjohnsen 08:46:53 03/26/05 (16)
- from the manufacturer's web site, you brainiac - BS64 11:44:55 03/26/05 (11)
- You've heard of flogging a dead horse? No? - clarkjohnsen 12:06:25 03/26/05 (10)
- Another laughable post, better than the product's theory of operation!! - BS64 12:26:15 03/26/05 (7)
- "That makes absolutely no sense to me." That's because you don't want it to. - clarkjohnsen 12:40:06 03/26/05 (6)
- sticks and stones - BS64 12:42:07 03/26/05 (3)
- So you concede the point. Excellent choice. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:47:19 03/26/05 (2)
- concede? not quite... - BS64 12:56:45 03/26/05 (1)
- "You [and Geoff] resort to insults." Where was that, pray? - clarkjohnsen 08:55:14 03/28/05 (0)
- so can you provide a link to a legitimate explanation? - BS64 12:53:07 03/26/05 (1)
- Why the desperate NEED for a theory? [nt] - Wellfed 23:09:32 03/27/05 (0)
- Re: This would be more credible... - Jim Willis 16:17:47 03/26/05 (1)
- They don't need no stinkin' explanations... - Al Sekela 08:53:53 03/27/05 (0)
- Where do you people get this stuff? Thanks for saying IT first . . . - Mike Mount 18:22:58 03/27/05 (3)
- "This appears one R E D I C U L O U S prospect . . ." - clarkjohnsen 09:30:16 03/28/05 (2)
- Re: "This appears one R E D I C U L O U S prospect . . ." - dave derrick 16:05:48 03/28/05 (1)
- Difference is, there's no hoax here. nt - clarkjohnsen 20:52:34 04/02/05 (0)
- Another rags to riches to rags story... - Wellfed 09:13:23 03/26/05 (4)
- Re: Another rags to riches to rags story... - AlphaGeek 09:27:45 03/26/05 (3)
- good luck - BS64 09:41:09 03/26/05 (0)
- If you're hoping to win your suit... - Wellfed 09:46:52 03/26/05 (1)
- Well that's a thought! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:06:42 03/26/05 (0)
- There may be a cheaper option. - soulfood 10:51:48 03/26/05 (0)
- Re: I am suing after it ruined my CD collection - WWRM 11:49:15 03/26/05 (0)
- Just played my girlfriend's Celine Dion and the Intelligent Chip destroyed it; definitely works for me!! [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 05:52:41 03/28/05 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: Intelligent Chip roundup #2 - MylesJ 15:32:44 03/25/05 (6)
- The effect on two different CD-Rs was quite prominent in my experience. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:21:44 03/26/05 (5)
- " was quite prominent in my experience." & "Science has spoken" Mr.Johnsen's hypocricy. - BluesMan 08:24:50 03/26/05 (2)
- The question was asked, I gave an honest response. Then what am I met with? - clarkjohnsen 08:43:56 03/26/05 (0)
- Re: You are "met" with your own hypocricy: First... - BluesMan 16:58:47 03/26/05 (0)
- Re: The effect on two different CD-Rs was quite prominent in my experience. nt - MylesJ 17:14:03 03/26/05 (1)
- Good questions all. Asked them myself! For now you must rest content... - clarkjohnsen 09:09:23 03/28/05 (0)
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