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Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - tomsyl1 18:16:47 06/02/08 (91)
- Is it not a wonderful thing (for being so uniquely prop-headed)... - clarkjohnsen 10:06:00 06/05/08 (12)
  - Umm sure? If you say so? - Ugly 11:27:38 06/05/08 (11)
    - We see you've never done any engineering. nt - clarkjohnsen 13:18:36 06/05/08 (9)
      - So your experience as a professional engineer allows you prototypes before concepts? - Ugly 14:18:43 06/05/08 (8)
        
        Engineering, my man, is an iterative process. - clarkjohnsen 08:33:15 06/06/08 (7)
        
        Not always. It is possible to succeed on the first try. - Ugly 12:45:55 06/06/08 (6)
        
        Nailing everything on the first pass. Now there's a concept to... - clarkjohnsen 08:49:07 06/07/08 (0)
        
        Agreed - we're talking about a simple filter, after all - tomsyl1 15:59:28 06/06/08 (2)
        
        Took apart a NH - unclestu52 20:34:20 06/06/08 (1)
        
        RE: Took apart a NH - tomsyl1 02:32:10 06/08/08 (0)
        
        Always tinker.... - unclestu52 13:19:35 06/06/08 (1)
        
        Sure it does. It's an important distinction to make between product development and maintenance. - Ugly 15:43:18 06/06/08 (0)
    - LOL ! - unclestu52 11:47:28 06/05/08 (0)
- RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - chris_w 01:32:41 06/04/08 (3)
  - RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - tomsyl1 08:35:47 06/04/08 (2)
    - RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - chris_w 15:15:42 06/04/08 (1)
      - RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - tomsyl1 22:26:27 06/04/08 (0)
- RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - Steve Eddy 21:32:15 06/03/08 (6)
  - RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - tomsyl1 08:37:08 06/04/08 (5)
    - What are you talking about ?!? - pburant 11:23:08 06/04/08 (4)
      - RE: What are you talking about ?!? - tomsyl1 22:16:32 06/04/08 (0)
      - If it's a blind test, how did they see the blinking???nt - jneutron 13:52:04 06/04/08 (2)
        
        Keep pedaling.....you'll catch up (nt) - pburant 14:02:18 06/04/08 (1)
        
        Pedals??? Pedals??? I thought they said Petals... - jneutron 06:36:52 06/05/08 (0)
- Why bother? - rick_m 20:11:56 06/03/08 (0)
- RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - tomservo 12:39:50 06/03/08 (15)
  - RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - tomsyl1 14:30:50 06/03/08 (7)
    - RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - tomservo 15:23:08 06/03/08 (6)
      - How about balanced 120V power for noise reduction? - Atexanathome 18:22:12 06/04/08 (3)
        
        RE: How about balanced 120V power for noise reduction? - Dan Banquer 12:32:02 06/05/08 (2)
        
        There's a lot of truth in that... - Atexanathome 15:27:10 06/05/08 (1)
        
        RE: There's a lot of truth in that... - Dan Banquer 15:43:06 06/05/08 (0)
      - RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - tomsyl1 16:05:02 06/03/08 (1)
        
        RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - chris_w 15:43:35 06/04/08 (0)
  - Which of the 30 odd RFI - E-Stat 13:44:37 06/03/08 (3)
    - RE: Which of the 30 odd RFI - tomsyl1 14:33:13 06/03/08 (2)
      - Maybe yes, maybe no - E-Stat 14:48:45 06/03/08 (1)
        
        RE: Maybe yes, maybe no - tomsyl1 19:40:00 06/03/08 (0)
  - RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - Dan Banquer 13:09:03 06/03/08 (2)
    - RE: Let's reverse-engineer the PS Audio Noise Harvester - tomsyl1 14:38:40 06/03/08 (1)
      - Right. nt - Dan Banquer 14:41:01 06/03/08 (0)
- I've not heard it, BUT HiFi-Tuning's Noise Destroyer sure works. - clarkjohnsen 11:32:55 06/03/08 (8)
  - Thanks Clark - very helpful - tomsyl1 12:41:52 06/03/08 (7)
    - "They wouldn't market something that didn't do good things." Hmmm... - clarkjohnsen 07:48:48 06/04/08 (6)
      - RE: "They wouldn't market something that didn't do good things." Hmmm... - tomsyl1 09:01:26 06/04/08 (5)
        
        Those, and the sun spot cycle, and who knows what else? nt - clarkjohnsen 09:28:14 06/04/08 (4)
        
        RE: Those, and the sun spot cycle, and who knows what else? nt - tomsyl1 11:14:54 06/04/08 (3)
        
        Yes; and they come and go. No one knows (in audio). nt - clarkjohnsen 12:03:28 06/04/08 (2)
        
        Not to mention the phase of the moon, nt - Tony Lauck 18:55:54 06/04/08 (1)
        
        D'ya 'spose?... nt - clarkjohnsen 10:01:36 06/05/08 (0)
- Here's more detail from the manufacturer - E-Stat 09:54:44 06/03/08 (24)
  - Dare to post its design block diagram to justify its claim? - cheap-Jack 10:37:11 06/03/08 (23)
    - I don't have a block diagram to post - E-Stat 10:41:40 06/03/08 (22)
      - Yea, yr link read like there is some some "stuff" worth exploring. - cheap-Jack 11:21:34 06/03/08 (21)
        
        The link Clark posted disproves PS's claim - tomsyl1 14:22:02 06/03/08 (0)
        
        Indeed that will require a *full* understanding of the active circuitry - E-Stat 11:37:15 06/03/08 (19)
        
        What purpose would active circuitry serve in a device like this? - tomsyl1 12:59:52 06/03/08 (7)
        
        I will simply quote Mr. McGowan's description of the device - E-Stat 13:31:46 06/03/08 (6)
        
        Then this device is tuned for audio-band noise. - Al Sekela 09:41:08 06/04/08 (2)
        
        RE: Then this device is tuned for audio-band noise. - tomsyl1 11:36:38 06/04/08 (1)
        
        I'm not much help, I'm afraid. - Al Sekela 09:36:45 06/05/08 (0)
        
        RE: I will simply quote Mr. McGowan's description of the device - tomsyl1 14:45:42 06/03/08 (0)
        
        Neary all the money go to build the LCD indicator electronics,... - cheap-Jack 13:49:06 06/03/08 (1)
        
        The "LCD indicator electronics"? - E-Stat 14:09:19 06/03/08 (0)
        
        Actually - unclestu52 11:45:42 06/03/08 (10)
        
        RE: Actually - tomsyl1 12:56:46 06/03/08 (7)
        
        RE: Actually - Ugly 14:39:13 06/03/08 (6)
        
        Proper solutions are not always available or practical - E-Stat 15:04:48 06/03/08 (5)
        
        RE: Proper solutions are not always available or practical - tomsyl1 16:16:06 06/03/08 (3)
        
        That's what I wanted to do - E-Stat 17:58:34 06/04/08 (2)
        
        RE: That's what I wanted to do - tomsyl1 17:32:30 06/05/08 (1)
        
        There's something to be said - E-Stat 18:27:31 06/05/08 (0)
        
        RE: Proper solutions are not always available or practical - Ugly 15:48:33 06/03/08 (0)
        
        Not only draining off the noises at simple. - cheap-Jack 12:42:35 06/03/08 (0)
        
        A common misconception. - Dan Banquer 12:03:10 06/03/08 (0)
- Yea, for 25 bucks cost, don't expect miracles. - cheap-Jack 09:26:37 06/03/08 (0)
- Perhaps you should take one apart and investigate - bjh 08:47:30 06/03/08 (10)
  - RE: Perhaps you should take one apart and investigate - tomsyl1 16:29:01 06/03/08 (9)
    - "I don't get your point." Then you're stupid! Nothing I can do about that. nt - bjh 06:43:19 06/04/08 (8)
      - A special explanation just for bjh: - tomsyl1 11:09:44 06/04/08 (6)
        
        Let me see if I've got this correct.... - bjh 13:33:46 06/04/08 (5)
        
        RE: Let me see if I've got this correct.... - tomsyl1 14:49:53 06/04/08 (4)
        
        I have just examined all your posts in this thread - bjh 16:54:32 06/04/08 (3)
        
        Is that really what this was all about? - tomsyl1 17:58:10 06/04/08 (2)
        
        Still can't get, eh? It's OK, I see - bjh 19:25:55 06/04/08 (1)
        
        So you're off to learn html tags? Good. - tomsyl1 19:57:09 06/04/08 (0)
      - RE: "I don't get your point." Then you're stupid! Nothing I can do about that. nt - tomsyl1 08:40:48 06/04/08 (0)
- IIRC, - unclestu52 22:21:00 06/02/08 (3)
  - No. a stepdown transformer can't built so small ! - cheap-Jack 09:08:47 06/03/08 (1)
    - RE: No. a stepdown transformer can't built so small ! - tomsyl1 16:34:06 06/03/08 (0)
  - RE: IIRC, - tomsyl1 22:37:41 06/02/08 (0)
Two points in favour of 'subjectivists' - Dr. Philosophy 05:37:34 06/02/08 (53)
- Please! Point for the subjectivist? - Don T 15:41:08 06/05/08 (2)
  - RE: Please! Point for the subjectivist? - pikers 21:53:29 06/12/08 (0)
  - Well, I should have written 'Two small points ...' nt - Dr. Philosophy 09:50:52 06/06/08 (0)
- Your Two points are completely different paradigms of audio reproduction - gymwear5@hotmail.com 12:45:55 06/05/08 (0)
- Very interesting - Lambda 10:18:00 06/02/08 (18)
  - RE: Very interesting - Dr. Philosophy 10:50:01 06/02/08 (17)
    - OK, it's real easy because... - gymwear5@hotmail.com 10:17:38 06/06/08 (1)
      - Most audiophiles would benefit from making recordings - Tony Lauck 17:10:28 06/06/08 (0)
    - "All physical differences are, in principle, measurable." Indeed. But whenever one states... - clarkjohnsen 07:52:47 06/03/08 (14)
      - "objectivists" will shout that it can't exist! WRONG. It *does* exist! IN YOUR MIND - AJinFLA 15:33:53 06/03/08 (8)
        
        What was it that made you this way??? - robert young 05:03:46 06/04/08 (7)
        
        God - AJinFLA 09:34:37 06/04/08 (3)
        
        You just went full on creepy on us. - Analog Scott 13:40:09 06/04/08 (0)
        
        Your brand of humor - robert young 10:02:16 06/04/08 (1)
        
        Your brand of humor - thetubeguy1954 11:56:27 06/04/08 (0)
        
        Maybe.... - Analog Scott 08:21:42 06/04/08 (0)
        
        Good catch! nt - clarkjohnsen 08:18:47 06/04/08 (1)
        
        Been to the harbor lately Clark? (nt) - AJinFLA 09:50:48 06/04/08 (0)
      - if it can't yet be measured, the "objectivists" will shout that it can't exist!... - Dr. Philosophy 12:31:29 06/03/08 (3)
        
        I haven't seen anyone say that here. - tomsyl1 12:56:21 06/05/08 (0)
        
        Yes - Analog Scott 08:24:08 06/04/08 (0)
        
        RE: if it can't yet be measured, the "objectivists" will shout that it can't exist!... - kerr 13:50:28 06/03/08 (0)
      - It's this dyspepsia... - kerr 12:17:41 06/03/08 (0)
- For a sidebar, when musicians do things with their instruments... - clarkjohnsen 09:37:25 06/02/08 (5)
  - That has absolutely nothing to do with whether an audiophile can hear a difference when changing wires - Richard BassNut Greene 13:47:17 06/03/08 (0)
  - good points - FenderLover 10:24:07 06/02/08 (0)
  - What happens when you wish to tune for.................. - Dan Banquer 10:16:04 06/02/08 (0)
  - True, and... - kerr 09:56:56 06/02/08 (1)
    - Sez you! I say they do! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:02:35 06/02/08 (0)
- A point in favor of the objectivists. - Enophile 08:33:17 06/02/08 (7)
  - RE: A point in favor of the objectivists. - Todd Krieger 18:07:21 06/02/08 (6)
    - Why is it so scary to think one is deluded? - Dr. Philosophy 08:59:58 06/04/08 (0)
    - "The **presumption** of delusion whenever such perceptive claim cannot be quantified." Well said! - clarkjohnsen 07:57:57 06/04/08 (0)
    - RE: A point in favor of the objectivists. - theaudiohobby 04:58:45 06/03/08 (3)
      - RE: A point in favor of the objectivists. - Todd Krieger 23:55:05 06/03/08 (1)
        
        I think it has nt - Analog Scott 18:07:52 06/04/08 (0)
      - RE: A point in favor of the objectivists. - Dawnrazor 21:28:02 06/03/08 (0)
- "DBX testing" - Richard BassNut Greene 07:44:48 06/02/08 (2)
  - "DBX"...... - Todd Krieger 18:12:50 06/02/08 (0)
  - RE: "DBX testing" - Dr. Philosophy 07:57:23 06/02/08 (0)
- RE: Two points in favour of 'subjectivists' - rick_m 06:54:33 06/02/08 (12)
  - You touch on an interesting - unclestu52 11:47:10 06/02/08 (4)
    - RE: You touch on an interesting - thetubeguy1954 11:16:37 06/03/08 (1)
      - My intuitive answer - unclestu52 12:13:40 06/03/08 (0)
    - RE: You touch on an interesting - rick_m 15:10:11 06/02/08 (1)
      - Nah..... - unclestu52 18:53:12 06/02/08 (0)
  - RE: Two points in favour of 'subjectivists' - andy_c 07:52:24 06/02/08 (6)
    - RE: Two points in favour of 'subjectivists' - tomsyl1 17:55:13 06/02/08 (3)
      - RE: Two points in favour of 'subjectivists' - andy_c 18:13:52 06/02/08 (2)
        
        RE: Two points in favour of 'subjectivists' - Ugly 20:29:09 06/02/08 (1)
        
        "a backlit electrically automated etch a sketch" - tomsyl1 19:43:55 06/03/08 (0)
    - RE: Two points in favour of 'subjectivists' - rick_m 08:43:26 06/02/08 (1)
      - Persistence of my eye different than ear persistence. - Ugly 11:20:43 06/02/08 (0)
Open Question For All Objectivists - thetubeguy1954 09:58:52 05/29/08 (147)
- RE: Open Question For All Objectivists - audioAl 03:49:02 07/04/08 (0)
- Here's the way I look at it. - Dan Banquer 13:52:24 05/31/08 (23)
  - RE: Here's the way I look at it. - Mudcat 04:53:58 06/04/08 (2)
    - RE: Here's the way I look at it. - Dan Banquer 05:16:42 06/04/08 (1)
      - The answer would be - E-Stat 18:09:31 06/04/08 (0)
  - Thanks Dan! - thetubeguy1954 11:45:39 06/01/08 (1)
    - RE: Thanks Dan! - Dan Banquer 12:02:28 06/01/08 (0)
  - RE: Numbers... - rick_m 15:12:16 05/31/08 (1)
    - RE: Numbers... - Dan Banquer 16:28:59 05/31/08 (0)
  - Me too but..... - Don T 14:22:14 05/31/08 (15)
    - Gee, That's B......... - Todd Krieger 20:49:28 06/02/08 (0)
    - "...if numbers really are as important ... everyone would own ... the same audio system" - old2randr 20:06:33 05/31/08 (1)
      - Not all SET adherents ignore high distortion. - Don T 21:14:58 05/31/08 (0)
    - Surprise me Don, state something meaningful. - Dan Banquer 14:31:23 05/31/08 (11)
      - Please cut out your Jack in the Box act! Some of us get it and don't want your convincing. - Don T 16:11:19 05/31/08 (10)
        
        Well you sure like to rant............. - Dan Banquer 16:23:00 05/31/08 (9)
        
        LOL! I'm happy with what's offered - you're the one who is bitter! - Don T 17:18:46 05/31/08 (8)
        
        I beg to differ........... - Dan Banquer 02:50:32 06/01/08 (7)
        
        You are the one who is dodging and needs to respond. My point is that there is no new ground to cover. - Don T 16:38:15 06/01/08 (6)
        
        " My point is that there is no new ground to cover." then you are being untruthful/unrealistic - Ugly 11:45:56 06/02/08 (5)
        
        Sure and you propose that 2 voltage levels is enough info to reproduce a live event? - Don T 12:22:22 06/02/08 (4)
        
        RE: Sure and you propose that 2 voltage levels is enough info to reproduce a live event? - Ugly 13:53:59 06/02/08 (3)
        
        RE: Sure and you propose that 2 voltage levels is enough info to reproduce a live event? - Don T 18:17:22 06/05/08 (2)
        
        RE: Sure and you propose that 2 voltage levels is enough info to reproduce a live event? - Ugly 15:11:45 06/06/08 (0)
        
        In the service of Music, not Theatrical Tricks - Tony Lauck 19:50:23 06/05/08 (0)
- 'Tis a puzzlement -- one not expiated in the responses below. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:34:59 05/31/08 (0)
- Duh! - Don T 08:05:53 05/31/08 (7)
  - RE: Duh! - thetubeguy1954 09:56:19 05/31/08 (6)
    - I believe you! - Don T 14:28:22 05/31/08 (4)
      - Maybe you ought to take a cool shower and a valium - robert young 16:19:45 05/31/08 (3)
        
        Nope not even a valium and a couple of shots of vodka.... - Don T 18:54:29 05/31/08 (2)
        
        You have already "driveled" worse than anyone you have attacked. (NT) - robert young 20:58:07 05/31/08 (1)
        
        Absolutely True! - thetubeguy1954 12:34:53 06/01/08 (0)
    - Hoist on you own petard! - Pat D 10:49:21 05/31/08 (0)
- RE: Open Question For All Objectivists - Todd Krieger 23:09:17 05/30/08 (0)
- RE: Open Question For All Objectivists - tomsyl1 11:24:50 05/30/08 (75)
  - It is refreshing to have new blood here - E-Stat 16:18:58 05/30/08 (74)
    - RE: It is refreshing to have new blood here - tomsyl1 16:49:36 05/30/08 (73)
      - RE: It is refreshing to have new blood here - morricab 01:02:35 06/06/08 (0)
      - RE: It is refreshing to have new blood here - Don T 19:13:20 06/01/08 (0)
      - I've never heard an SET amplifier. - rick_m 07:59:39 05/31/08 (4)
        
        RE: I've never heard an SET amplifier. - morricab 01:15:47 06/06/08 (3)
        
        RE: I've never heard an SET amplifier. - rick_m 08:14:04 06/06/08 (2)
        
        RE: I've never heard an SET amplifier. - morricab 08:20:19 06/07/08 (1)
        
        RE: I've never heard an SET amplifier. - rick_m 12:21:14 06/07/08 (0)
      - implies the manufacturer thinks his potential customers are idiots incapable of realizing how - AJinFLA 06:42:31 05/31/08 (48)
        
        RE: implies the manufacturer thinks his potential customers are idiots incapable of realizing how - tomsyl1 14:33:38 05/31/08 (37)
        
        RE: implies the manufacturer thinks his potential customers are idiots incapable of realizing how - AJinFLA 07:48:12 06/01/08 (3)
        
        RE: implies the manufacturer thinks his potential customers are idiots incapable of realizing how - tomsyl1 13:51:58 06/01/08 (0)
        
        RE: implies the manufacturer thinks his potential customers are idiots incapable of realizing how - rick_m 11:17:58 06/01/08 (1)
        
        RE: implies the manufacturer thinks his potential customers are idiots incapable of realizing how - tomsyl1 13:54:50 06/01/08 (0)
        
        RE: implies the manufacturer thinks his potential customers are idiots incapable of realizing how - Analog Scott 15:16:28 05/31/08 (32)
        
        RE: implies the manufacturer thinks his potential customers are idiots incapable of realizing how - tomsyl1 16:10:54 05/31/08 (31)
        
        RE: implies the manufacturer thinks his potential customers are idiots incapable of realizing how - Analog Scott 23:57:05 05/31/08 (30)
        
        My approach may be different in that I actually do like to do blind comparisons along with sighted comaprisons - AJinFLA 07:20:41 06/01/08 (28)
        
        You really devoted a lot of time and effort to this post - Analog Scott 08:03:37 06/01/08 (27)
        
        RE: You really devoted a lot of time and effort to this post - AJinFLA 19:01:13 06/02/08 (8)
        
        RE: You really devoted a lot of time and effort to this post - Analog Scott 00:58:30 06/03/08 (7)
        
        RE: You really devoted a lot of time and effort to this post - tomsyl1 20:02:21 06/03/08 (6)
        
        RE: You really devoted a lot of time and effort to this post - Analog Scott 21:15:56 06/03/08 (5)
        
        RE: You really devoted a lot of time and effort to this post - tomsyl1 15:23:42 06/04/08 (0)
        
        "I suspect it was quite a different beast than my 1984 100 watt rack job from Yamaha." - AJinFLA 03:51:10 06/04/08 (3)
        
        Are the ghosts talking to you again? - Analog Scott 08:30:51 06/04/08 (2)
        
        So you admit that Stereo Review is not to blame for Scott's decision to buy a rack system... - AJinFLA 09:42:18 06/04/08 (1)
        
        Dude you are babbling again - Analog Scott 13:48:49 06/04/08 (0)
        
        The two mainstream audiophile mags live in mortal fear of blind testing - tomsyl1 14:19:17 06/01/08 (17)
        
        RE: The two mainstream audiophile mags live in mortal fear of blind testing - Analog Scott 16:06:33 06/01/08 (16)
        
        RE: The two mainstream audiophile mags live in mortal fear of blind testing - tomsyl1 17:39:56 06/01/08 (14)
        
        RE: The two mainstream audiophile mags live in mortal fear of blind testing - Analog Scott 08:02:53 06/02/08 (13)
        
        RE: The two mainstream audiophile mags live in mortal fear of blind testing - tomsyl1 16:25:59 06/02/08 (12)
        
        The current version of TAS - E-Stat 09:23:39 06/03/08 (4)
        
        RE: The current version of TAS - Analog Scott 21:24:00 06/03/08 (0)
        
        RE: The current version of TAS - tomsyl1 19:57:22 06/03/08 (2)
        
        I suppose the question is... - Analog Scott 14:18:21 06/05/08 (0)
        
        Actually - E-Stat 06:53:57 06/04/08 (0)
        
        LOL! Great links! - andy_c 16:48:05 06/02/08 (6)
        
        You hadn't seen the Salvatore link before? Great stuff. (nt) - AJinFLA 18:34:15 06/02/08 (4)
        
        I had skimmed the Salvatore site before, but... - andy_c 19:40:08 06/02/08 (2)
        
        Salvatore is not against blind testing - Atexanathome 18:16:54 06/03/08 (0)
        
        RE: I had skimmed the Salvatore site before, but... - tomsyl1 22:20:13 06/02/08 (0)
        
        RE: You hadn't seen the Salvatore link before? Great stuff. (nt) - tomsyl1 18:40:25 06/02/08 (0)
        
        RE: LOL! Great links! - tomsyl1 18:29:35 06/02/08 (0)
        
        There used to be one - Atexanathome 16:42:08 06/01/08 (0)
        
        RE: implies the manufacturer thinks his potential customers are idiots incapable of realizing how - tomsyl1 05:31:55 06/01/08 (0)
        
        So again I'll ask: - robert young 07:30:18 05/31/08 (5)
        
        Silly "What do I do" question again eh? I post incredibly rude, immature, unbroken streams of bile - AJinFLA 09:30:06 05/31/08 (4)
        
        His First & Perhaps Only Honest Statement Here! - thetubeguy1954 09:59:58 05/31/08 (0)
        
        Your responses do you no favors. - robert young 09:40:13 05/31/08 (2)
        
        I actually don't slow down for car wrecks - Analog Scott 10:04:24 05/31/08 (0)
        
        They Actually Make Him Behave On DIYAudio - thetubeguy1954 10:03:01 05/31/08 (0)
        
        Maybe it's time to consider anger management counciling - Analog Scott 07:14:25 05/31/08 (3)
        
        He's An Equal Opportunity Hater, Objectivist, Subjectivist Doesn't Matter - thetubeguy1954 10:11:25 05/31/08 (0)
        
        Perhaps you could assist with some cool pink smiley face - AJinFLA 07:51:19 05/31/08 (1)
        
        I could do a clown makeup on you. but it would be redundant. - Analog Scott 08:31:22 05/31/08 (0)
      - No, you make perfect sense. - Dave Pogue 17:14:44 05/30/08 (0)
      - I Agree 100% - thetubeguy1954 17:12:57 05/30/08 (15)
        
        RE: I Agree 100% - tomsyl1 17:44:22 05/30/08 (14)
        
        CleverT likes to joke around about our minor disagreements. He's since approached me about burying the hatchet - AJinFLA 07:38:19 05/31/08 (13)
        
        100% Fabrication From AJinFLA! - thetubeguy1954 13:17:27 06/01/08 (0)
        
        Speaking of speakers... - rick_m 08:20:51 05/31/08 (11)
        
        The plot you speak of was not hatched by me - AJinFLA 08:19:48 06/01/08 (5)
        
        RE: Yes, I know that... - rick_m 09:15:21 06/01/08 (4)
        
        The experiment? - AJinFLA 03:51:58 06/02/08 (3)
        
        RE: The experiment? - rick_m 06:33:20 06/02/08 (2)
        
        RE: The experiment? - AJinFLA 09:44:00 06/02/08 (1)
        
        RE: The experiment? - rick_m 09:59:48 06/02/08 (0)
        
        I'd really like to hear about that, too. - tomsyl1 20:00:41 05/31/08 (4)
        
        RE: I'd really like to hear about that, too. - rick_m 20:31:32 05/31/08 (3)
        
        RE: I'd really like to hear about that, too. - thetubeguy1954 14:04:00 06/01/08 (1)
        
        You are being visited by avatars of the speaker gods! - tomsyl1 14:26:27 06/01/08 (0)
        
        The Paragon . . . . - tomsyl1 21:47:36 05/31/08 (0)
- Your vision of an objective audiophile is quite strange - Richard BassNut Greene 08:42:12 05/30/08 (3)
  - you are the Yogi Barra of objectist audiophiles. - Analog Scott 16:09:11 05/30/08 (2)
    - That's spelled "Yogi Berra" -- you can't even spell your insults correctly? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:47:36 06/02/08 (1)
      - It was a compliment. - Analog Scott 14:02:31 06/02/08 (0)
- Different people often prefer different things. - Pat D 20:03:29 05/29/08 (8)
  - If It Looks Like An Objectivist, Talks Like An Objectivist etc. - thetubeguy1954 17:44:10 05/30/08 (6)
    - Flatus vocis. - Pat D 21:01:15 05/30/08 (5)
      - My Post Was The Truth - thetubeguy1954 10:25:12 05/31/08 (4)
        
        Now you are changing your ground. - Pat D 10:54:00 05/31/08 (3)
        
        Nope Not One Iota - thetubeguy1954 14:22:38 06/01/08 (2)
        
        Do you actually read what you write? - Pat D 16:25:01 06/01/08 (1)
        
        If his posts don't make sense to us when we read them, how could they make sense when he reads them? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:57:56 06/02/08 (0)
  - A fine response. - robert young 05:45:39 05/30/08 (0)
- Strawman premise - Lynn 18:28:14 05/29/08 (11)
  - RE: Strawman premise - Analog Scott 21:11:25 05/29/08 (10)
    - Perhaps, but... - Lynn 21:51:45 05/29/08 (9)
      - You are just trying to rationalize the a double standard - Analog Scott 07:12:09 05/30/08 (8)
        
        RE: You are just trying to rationalize the a double standard - Lynn 08:19:17 05/30/08 (7)
        
        i think you missed my point - Analog Scott 11:20:02 05/30/08 (6)
        
        I think you don't understand . . . - Pat D 10:41:15 05/31/08 (5)
        
        Pat, it's a good idea to keep track of what is being discussed. - Analog Scott 15:45:35 05/31/08 (4)
        
        What on earth are you talking about? - Pat D 20:39:26 05/31/08 (3)
        
        wow - Analog Scott 23:23:04 05/31/08 (2)
        
        Hoist on your own petard, too. - Pat D 16:07:34 06/01/08 (1)
        
        Pat, give Scott a lift so you can hoist on your own retard, too. - AJinFLA 18:38:56 06/01/08 (0)
- RE: Open Question For All Objectivists - jon_s 16:59:06 05/29/08 (0)
- RE: Open Question For All Objectivists - tomservo 13:38:34 05/29/08 (3)
  - A Question - thetubeguy1954 13:47:58 06/01/08 (2)
    - RE: A Question - rick_m 18:44:02 06/01/08 (1)
      - RE: A Question - AJinFLA 09:55:53 06/02/08 (0)
- I think objectivists "allow" speakers to sound "different." - Enophile 10:20:22 05/29/08 (5)
  - I think all you've posted is true, but... - kerr 10:42:53 05/29/08 (4)
    - You're points are spot on. They should be choosing the speakers which measure best. - Enophile 13:12:09 05/29/08 (3)
      - Off topic... - kerr 13:25:58 05/29/08 (2)
        
        Both! - Enophile 15:34:40 05/29/08 (1)
        
        RE: Both! - kerr 04:38:51 05/30/08 (0)
Transconductance Amplification - jpvs 21:01:15 05/28/08 (8)
- Pff the top of my head: - tomsyl1 13:05:09 05/29/08 (3)
  - RE: Pff the top of my head: - jpvs 15:45:41 05/29/08 (2)
    - RE: Pff the top of my head: - tomsyl1 11:22:48 05/30/08 (1)
      - RE: Pff the top of my head: - jpvs 17:32:26 06/23/08 (0)
- Amplifiers with adjustable output impedance. - Al Sekela 09:21:29 05/29/08 (3)
  - RE: Amplifiers with adjustable output impedance. - jpvs 15:31:09 05/29/08 (2)
    - Negative voltage feedback lowers output impedance; - Al Sekela 16:36:30 05/29/08 (1)
      - RE: Negative voltage feedback lowers output impedance; - jpvs 17:16:20 05/29/08 (0)
Nominations for best Application Note ever - tomsyl1 01:52:34 05/28/08 (25)
- Mine goes to... - Presto 16:00:53 05/29/08 (0)
- RE: Nominations for best Application Note ever - Ugly 15:44:42 05/28/08 (7)
  - Switchers - Ahhh! - rick_m 18:25:01 05/28/08 (0)
  - Switchers - Arrgh! - tomsyl1 16:02:19 05/28/08 (3)
    - Amen...... - Todd Krieger 20:10:19 05/28/08 (0)
    - RE: Switchers - Arrgh! - jpvs 16:45:14 05/28/08 (1)
      - RE: Switchers - Arrgh! - tomsyl1 17:18:32 05/28/08 (0)
  - Looks like a really good one! - andy_c 16:00:59 05/28/08 (0)
  - RE: Nominations for best Application Note ever - Dan Banquer 15:58:34 05/28/08 (0)
- My vote is for this one - andy_c 09:50:35 05/28/08 (12)
  - The competition is getting tough... - rick_m 11:40:17 05/28/08 (11)
    - Some funny stuff from National - andy_c 13:36:52 05/28/08 (9)
      - RE: Some funny stuff from National - rick_m 14:41:42 05/28/08 (0)
      - RE: Some funny stuff from National - tomsyl1 14:06:23 05/28/08 (7)
        
        perchance, do you mean this one?? - jneutron 11:35:20 05/29/08 (3)
        
        That looks really familiar - what year was it published? - tomsyl1 22:58:03 05/31/08 (2)
        
        RE: That looks really familiar - what year was it published? - tomsyl1 16:15:08 06/06/08 (0)
        
        1976 - jneutron 11:00:17 06/02/08 (0)
        
        RE: Some funny stuff from National - rick_m 14:45:21 05/28/08 (2)
        
        RE: Some funny stuff from National - tomsyl1 15:25:24 05/28/08 (1)
        
        RE: Some funny stuff from National - rick_m 15:40:07 05/28/08 (0)
    - RE: The competition is getting tough... - tomsyl1 13:14:31 05/28/08 (0)
- RE: Nominations for best Application Note ever - rick_m 08:02:32 05/28/08 (0)
- RE: Nominations for best Application Note ever - Dan Banquer 05:03:36 05/28/08 (1)
  - RE: Nominations for best Application Note ever - Zero Cool 08:24:55 06/23/08 (0)
AB amps and distortion - Dan Banquer 12:58:36 05/27/08 (164)
- RE: AB amps; Distortion & Confusion - Dan Banquer 16:35:37 05/29/08 (0)
- Nice Strawman Argument...... - Todd Krieger 20:14:10 05/28/08 (4)
  - Todds future/low power is a "Cakepan"/SET and not a Class AB Pioneer VSX-912 because - AJinFLA 18:20:14 05/29/08 (3)
    - Well, the cakepan doesn't affect the sound - tomsyl1 11:40:13 05/30/08 (2)
      - RE: Well, the cakepan doesn't affect the sound - AJinFLA 06:16:05 05/31/08 (1)
        
        RE: Well, the cakepan doesn't affect the sound - tomsyl1 21:57:13 05/31/08 (0)
- I NEVER Heard That! - thetubeguy1954 12:37:35 05/28/08 (1)
  - RE: I NEVER Heard That! - morricab 07:30:20 05/30/08 (0)
- Never heard that one before - E-Stat 14:29:29 05/27/08 (2)
  - It was destroyed long before 99. nt - Dan Banquer 15:54:30 05/27/08 (1)
    - I'll even speculate - E-Stat 18:36:31 05/27/08 (0)
- Audiophile Myth? - rick_m 14:10:35 05/27/08 (9)
  - RE: Audiophile Myth? - Dan Banquer 16:00:06 05/27/08 (8)
    - RE: Audiophile Myth? - rick_m 16:42:04 05/27/08 (7)
      - "You have largely described my daily newspaper." Tha's FUNNY man. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:30:27 05/31/08 (0)
      - Perhaps you could be more specific - AJinFLA 18:27:56 05/27/08 (3)
        
        RE: Perhaps you could be more specific - rick_m 20:07:20 05/27/08 (2)
        
        Imaginary experiences aren't very useful. Fortunately, they also are not very common. - AJinFLA 17:56:36 05/29/08 (1)
        
        RE: Imaginary experiences aren't very useful. Fortunately, they also are not very common. - rick_m 19:52:20 05/29/08 (0)
      - RE: Audiophile Myth? - Dan Banquer 16:48:04 05/27/08 (1)
        
        RE: Audiophile Myth? - morricab 03:02:06 05/28/08 (0)
- RE: AB amps and distortion - morricab 13:52:50 05/27/08 (142)
  - Geddes distortion study - andy_c 08:25:02 05/28/08 (83)
    - RE: Geddes distortion study - morricab 01:13:20 05/29/08 (82)
      - RE: Geddes distortion study - andy_c 08:14:06 05/29/08 (5)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - morricab 09:23:02 05/29/08 (3)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - andy_c 10:04:05 05/29/08 (2)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - morricab 02:13:04 06/02/08 (0)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - morricab 00:58:01 05/30/08 (0)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - Dan Banquer 08:23:44 05/29/08 (0)
      - RE: Geddes distortion study - rick_m 07:44:00 05/29/08 (75)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - morricab 08:18:16 05/29/08 (5)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - rick_m 09:47:10 05/29/08 (4)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - morricab 01:02:31 05/30/08 (3)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - rick_m 08:43:57 05/30/08 (2)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - morricab 02:24:38 06/02/08 (1)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - rick_m 06:13:31 06/02/08 (0)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - Dan Banquer 08:03:09 05/29/08 (68)
        
        A time warp somewhere around the 1970's, where he also found that op-amp article - AJinFLA 17:27:58 05/29/08 (1)
        
        RE: A time warp somewhere around the 1970's, where he also found that op-amp article - Dan Banquer 06:10:08 05/30/08 (0)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - morricab 08:58:16 05/29/08 (64)
        
        I thought we were talking about Class AB. - tomsyl1 12:56:26 05/29/08 (57)
        
        RE: I thought we were talking about Class AB. - morricab 01:04:56 05/30/08 (55)
        
        RE: I thought we were talking about Class AB. - tomsyl1 16:22:10 05/30/08 (54)
        
        RE: I thought we were talking about Class AB. - morricab 02:29:29 06/02/08 (53)
        
        Once again I'll repeat basic theory and application. - Dan Banquer 04:30:13 06/02/08 (52)
        
        RE: Once again I'll repeat basic theory and application. - morricab 07:22:57 06/02/08 (51)
        
        RE: Once again I'll repeat basic theory and application. - Dan Banquer 07:42:22 06/02/08 (50)
        
        RE: Once again I'll repeat basic theory and application. - rick_m 07:11:38 06/03/08 (2)
        
        RE: Once again I'll repeat basic theory and application. - Dan Banquer 08:25:08 06/03/08 (1)
        
        RE: Once again I'll repeat basic theory and application. - morricab 04:46:31 06/04/08 (0)
        
        Class AB characteristics - andy_c 11:23:08 06/02/08 (46)
        
        Further Comments - Dan Banquer 06:27:29 06/03/08 (9)
        
        RE: Further Comments - andy_c 09:39:09 06/03/08 (8)
        
        You blew it with the DC input. - Dan Banquer 04:38:59 06/04/08 (7)
        
        Okay, here it is with a sine wave of load current then - andy_c 07:36:36 06/05/08 (4)
        
        Perhaps you could show us waveforms at a low power level nt - Tony Lauck 12:29:14 06/05/08 (2)
        
        Sure. - andy_c 12:50:25 06/05/08 (1)
        
        Looks Like Class AB to me! - Tony Lauck 13:49:23 06/05/08 (0)
        
        And you blew it again. - Dan Banquer 08:01:29 06/05/08 (0)
        
        RE: You blew it with the DC input. - rick_m 09:39:10 06/04/08 (1)
        
        RE: You blew it with the DC input. - Dan Banquer 09:57:41 06/04/08 (0)
        
        RE: Class AB characteristics - Dan Banquer 11:42:36 06/02/08 (35)
        
        RE: Class AB characteristics - andy_c 12:08:37 06/02/08 (34)
        
        RE: Class AB characteristics - Dan Banquer 12:22:24 06/02/08 (33)
        
        RE: Class AB characteristics - andy_c 13:39:18 06/02/08 (27)
        
        Let's take a step back for a minute. - Dan Banquer 15:03:01 06/02/08 (26)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - andy_c 18:09:17 06/02/08 (20)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - Dan Banquer 05:30:46 06/03/08 (19)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - andy_c 08:13:27 06/03/08 (18)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - Dan Banquer 09:26:11 06/03/08 (17)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - andy_c 09:58:54 06/03/08 (16)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - Dan Banquer 10:17:34 06/03/08 (15)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - andy_c 16:06:23 06/03/08 (14)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - Dan Banquer 16:38:06 06/03/08 (13)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - andy_c 04:13:44 06/05/08 (12)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - rick_m 09:23:34 06/05/08 (9)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - andy_c 09:53:24 06/05/08 (8)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - rick_m 10:56:34 06/05/08 (7)
        
        Some links and a sim of a BUF634 clone - andy_c 12:03:28 06/05/08 (6)
        
        RE: Some links and a sim of a BUF634 clone - rick_m 12:14:56 06/06/08 (3)
        
        Funny you should mention TIM - andy_c 12:32:35 06/06/08 (2)
        
        RE: Funny you should mention TIM - rick_m 13:06:34 06/06/08 (1)
        
        RE: Funny you should mention TIM - andy_c 08:58:02 06/07/08 (0)
        
        Here's a link for the both of you. - Dan Banquer 12:19:10 06/05/08 (1)
        
        RE: Here's a link for the both of you. - theaudiohobby 14:22:10 06/07/08 (0)
        
        Get over you're hang up on sliding bias - Dan Banquer 04:52:19 06/05/08 (1)
        
        RE: Get over you're hang up on sliding bias - andy_c 07:56:37 06/05/08 (0)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - andy_c 16:14:13 06/02/08 (4)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - Dan Banquer 16:53:30 06/02/08 (3)
        
        RE: Let's take a step back for a minute. - morricab 01:06:21 06/03/08 (2)
        
        Now you really show us just how ignorant you really are. - Dan Banquer 04:31:02 06/03/08 (1)
        
        RE: Now you really show us just how ignorant you really are. - morricab 04:44:40 06/04/08 (0)
        
        RE: Class AB characteristics - morricab 12:55:39 06/02/08 (4)
        
        Wrong Again - Dan Banquer 13:00:06 06/02/08 (3)
        
        RE: Wrong Again - morricab 16:46:04 06/02/08 (2)
        
        Answer the question, and If were you.................. - Dan Banquer 16:59:07 06/02/08 (1)
        
        RE: Answer the question, and If were you.................. - morricab 01:00:47 06/03/08 (0)
        
        RE: I thought we were talking about Class AB. - Dan Banquer 16:08:26 05/29/08 (0)
        
        You don't even know what crossover distortion is. - Dan Banquer 10:39:31 05/29/08 (5)
        
        RE: You don't even know what crossover distortion is. - morricab 01:52:20 05/30/08 (3)
        
        RE: You don't even know what crossover distortion is. - Dan Banquer 05:34:27 05/30/08 (2)
        
        RE: You don't even know what crossover distortion is. - morricab 07:25:30 05/30/08 (0)
        
        RE: You don't even know what crossover distortion is. - morricab 07:29:01 05/30/08 (0)
        
        RE: You don't even know what crossover distortion is. - morricab 01:54:21 05/30/08 (0)
        
        RE: Geddes distortion study - morricab 08:59:08 05/29/08 (0)
  - RE: AB amps and distortion - jpvs 17:22:27 05/27/08 (4)
    - RE: AB amps and distortion - Dan Banquer 04:54:37 05/28/08 (0)
    - RE: AB amps and distortion - morricab 02:57:44 05/28/08 (2)
      - RE: AB amps and distortion - jpvs 08:50:10 05/28/08 (1)
        
        RE: AB amps and distortion - morricab 01:15:24 05/29/08 (0)
  - Cheever is out to lunch, and Denon uses Negative feedback. - Dan Banquer 15:56:09 05/27/08 (4)
    - RE: Cheever is out to lunch, and Denon uses Negative feedback. - Todd Krieger 20:21:07 05/28/08 (2)
      - RE: Cheever is out to lunch, and Denon uses Negative feedback. - Dan Banquer 08:48:24 05/29/08 (0)
      - RE: Cheever is out to lunch, and Denon uses Negative feedback. - morricab 01:50:40 05/29/08 (0)
    - RE: Cheever is out to lunch, and Denon uses Negative feedback. - morricab 02:39:57 05/28/08 (0)
  - *You* are quoting Geddes? - AJinFLA 15:44:39 05/27/08 (47)
    - RE: *You* are quoting Geddes? - tomsyl1 17:21:44 05/28/08 (1)
      - RE: *You* are quoting Geddes? - AJinFLA 03:44:57 05/29/08 (0)
    - Geddes has the best home theater (both audio and video) I have ever experienced at any price - Richard BassNut Greene 07:16:03 05/28/08 (40)
      - RE: Geddes has the best home theater (both audio and video) I have ever experienced at any price - morricab 07:59:45 05/28/08 (33)
        
        Hypocrite Alert!! Brad, Geddes data is useless! - AJinFLA 10:04:39 05/28/08 (2)
        
        "insert wackophile here" We may not agree with their unproven claims but let's not call them "wackophiles" - Richard BassNut Greene 14:15:54 05/28/08 (1)
        
        RE: "insert wackophile here" We may not agree with their unproven claims but let's not call them "wackophiles" - Dan Banquer 15:30:41 05/28/08 (0)
        
        Character attack, wild speculation, and waving a white papers as if they are facts = Three strikes, Cabby - Richard BassNut Greene 08:19:26 05/28/08 (29)
        
        RE: Character attack, wild speculation, and waving a white papers as if they are facts = Three strikes, Cabby - morricab 01:46:21 05/29/08 (27)
        
        No I don't but when a controlled study yields a correlation of )0.9 I take notice - AJinFLA 03:28:03 05/29/08 (26)
        
        RE: No I don't but when a controlled study yields a correlation of )0.9 I take notice - morricab 02:02:05 05/30/08 (0)
        
        RE: No I don't but when a controlled study yields a correlation of )0.9 I take notice - tomsyl1 15:00:03 05/29/08 (20)
        
        Hey, you answered your own question - AJinFLA 17:38:45 05/29/08 (19)
        
        RE: Hey, you answered your own question - tomsyl1 11:36:32 05/30/08 (17)
        
        Even more confusion - andy_c 11:44:46 05/30/08 (16)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - AJinFLA 08:00:03 05/31/08 (2)
        
        RE: op-amp disorder - rick_m 09:00:10 05/31/08 (0)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - andy_c 08:18:46 05/31/08 (0)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - tomsyl1 00:07:35 05/31/08 (12)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - andy_c 06:02:49 05/31/08 (11)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - tomsyl1 17:11:54 05/31/08 (10)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - andy_c 17:38:07 05/31/08 (9)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - tomsyl1 19:30:43 05/31/08 (8)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - andy_c 06:40:12 06/01/08 (4)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - rick_m 09:06:26 06/01/08 (3)
        
        Board flexing in action - tomsyl1 13:39:09 06/01/08 (0)
        
        Another thing that came to mind - andy_c 09:22:52 06/01/08 (1)
        
        RE: Another thing that came to mind - tomsyl1 13:43:02 06/01/08 (0)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - rick_m 21:13:35 05/31/08 (2)
        
        RE: Even more confusion - tomsyl1 05:39:47 06/01/08 (1)
        
        Child labor huh? - rick_m 08:50:17 06/01/08 (0)
        
        There are no perfect recordings. - robert young 06:00:15 05/30/08 (0)
        
        "Where are your concerns due to your op-amp disorder now Chemist?" - robert young 14:22:55 05/29/08 (3)
        
        Robert, you are reading and enjoying my extremely rude and immature posts as much now as in the past - AJinFLA 18:04:26 05/29/08 (2)
        
        Simple: I changed my mind. - robert young 05:34:22 05/30/08 (1)
        
        Ouch!!!!! - Analog Scott 08:09:39 05/30/08 (0)
        
        RE: Character attack, wild speculation, and waving a white papers as if they are facts = Three strikes, Cabby - morricab 01:48:48 05/29/08 (0)
      - RE: Geddes has the best home theater (bot