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Rega RB300 tonearm w/Pete Riggle counter... - pug

Interesting Article On AC Polarity, Line Conditioners & Power Cords - thetubeguy1954 11:26:02 04/01/08 (2)
- RThere's a whole thread on this happening over on General - clarkjohnsen 10:22:26 04/02/08 (1)
  - Touche Clark! I Guess I Deserved That One... (nt) - thetubeguy1954 11:42:19 04/02/08 (0)
Wid(er) band plasma speaker - LineArrayNut 08:15:17 03/27/08 (5)
- finally, child proof mid/tweets - Craiger56 09:13:42 03/27/08 (4)
  - Anti-Child Is More Like It! - thetubeguy1954 11:22:01 03/28/08 (3)
    - OK, I'm loosing interest - Craiger56 12:39:03 03/28/08 (2)
      - Don't Loose Interest, Read This! - thetubeguy1954 13:22:50 03/28/08 (1)
        
        What you heard is right, but you cannot really blend these tweeters with other drivers. - Norm 18:19:50 03/28/08 (0)
The Psychology of Audiophile "False Positives" - Richard BassNut Greene 08:28:43 03/24/08 (29)
- "We audiophiles ..." - are you sure about that? - carcass93 11:44:04 03/31/08 (3)
  - Audiophiles are people who enjoy listening to recorded music - Richard BassNut Greene 08:30:28 04/01/08 (2)
    - Just another - E-Stat 09:50:24 04/01/08 (0)
    - Enjoying music and comparing/upgrading equipment are not necessarily mutually exclusive. - carcass93 09:24:00 04/01/08 (0)
- "...but I usually don't do this much thinking about serious subjects in one weekend, or even in one month!" - bjh 10:18:53 03/30/08 (1)
  - Your brain seems to be suffering from global warming - Richard BassNut Greene 08:16:30 03/31/08 (0)
- Shuu...uush, keep yr voice down, gentlemen. (nt) - cheap-Jack 06:41:53 03/27/08 (0)
- "I KNOW NOTHING!" nt - Don T 13:50:53 03/25/08 (12)
  - RE: "I SEE NOTHING!" nt - jneutron 13:57:34 03/25/08 (11)
    - RE: "I HEAR EVERYTHING!" nt - mkuller 14:09:43 03/25/08 (10)
      - I'M FALSELY POSITIVE! (nt) - kerr 14:27:30 03/25/08 (9)
        
        And Mr. Nut is POSITIVELY NEGATIVE...(nt) - mkuller 14:30:26 03/25/08 (8)
        
        NON SEQUITER...THIS UNIT MUST SURVIVE...NT - jneutron 17:44:47 03/25/08 (7)
        
        There are only Bozos on his bus -nt - E-Stat 21:11:48 03/25/08 (6)
        
        Everything you and RBNG know is WRONG...(nt) - mkuller 15:15:48 03/26/08 (1)
        
        Man, woman, child, all are... - E-Stat 17:23:36 03/26/08 (0)
        
        We're ALL Bozos On This Bus (Firesign Theather) nt - thetubeguy1954 06:07:36 03/26/08 (3)
        
        This thread is SO FUNNY, I almost chuckled. ..... My bad jokes are better than this. - Richard BassNut Greene 08:03:09 03/26/08 (2)
        
        I thought your posts were all jokes and that most of them were bad! - Don T 11:17:06 03/26/08 (0)
        
        sigh.. - jneutron 09:17:29 03/26/08 (0)
- I don't think you understand the math. - Analog Scott 19:03:11 03/24/08 (3)
  - hey I took a differential equations course in my second year of engineering school .... - Richard BassNut Greene 08:05:49 03/26/08 (1)
    - That's nice - Analog Scott 17:11:06 03/26/08 (0)
  - I think you'd better read what the letters pointed out about the test . . . - Pat D 20:06:43 03/24/08 (0)
- What about all of many more "False Negatives"? (nt) - mkuller 10:04:39 03/24/08 (4)
  - RBG's Post MUST Be Taken With A Salt Shaker's Worth Of Salt! - thetubeguy1954 13:15:13 03/24/08 (3)
    - In my first one-hour session with your psychiatrist Dr. U. R. Alfluxedup, the good doctor told me.......... - Richard BassNut Greene 08:43:41 03/25/08 (2)
      - As I Don't Have Or See A Psychiatrist...... - thetubeguy1954 06:29:19 03/26/08 (1)
        
        Well that leads to some valuable personal advice to you ... - Richard BassNut Greene 08:13:11 03/26/08 (0)
Here's a clue............ - yaukui 12:47:59 03/20/08 (120)
- You better teach Bruno P{utzeys how to measure cables.. - cheap-Jack 09:35:47 03/24/08 (4)
  - Testing hearing and cables. Was: You better teach Bruno Putzeys how to measure cables. - Ernst Raedecker 13:07:54 03/30/08 (3)
    - Retroactive facts - AJinFLA 17:16:09 04/01/08 (0)
    - I agree except a few points.. - cheap-Jack 11:15:44 03/31/08 (0)
    - RE: Testing hearing and cables. Was: You better teach Bruno Putzeys how to measure cables. - rick_m 17:27:31 03/30/08 (0)
- here's a better clue -- no one can demonstrate to witnesses he can hear any difference except SPL - Richard BassNut Greene 07:53:32 03/21/08 (33)
  - Sadly RBG "Claims" No One Can Demonstrate To Witnesses He Can Hear Any Difference Except SPL, Yet... - thetubeguy1954 12:49:41 03/21/08 (20)
    - "Nothing else matters to RBG except being correct." Ironic, isn't it? Because he's so often wrong! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:42:45 03/22/08 (9)
      - Audio knowledge should be based on objective data, not on your childish character attacks - Richard BassNut Greene 07:22:47 03/24/08 (8)
        
        Audio knowledge should be based on good observations and theory explaining these observations. But... - Norm 07:44:33 03/24/08 (7)
        
        "Audio knowledge should be based on *good* observations"...Excellent advice Norman!! - AJinFLA 18:50:19 03/24/08 (3)
        
        Thank you I knew that at the root of discussions you had an appreciation that obs. are fundamental. - Norm 14:18:08 03/28/08 (0)
        
        Except of course - E-Stat 17:25:16 03/26/08 (1)
        
        It's one tool in the toolbox - AJinFLA 18:00:42 04/02/08 (0)
        
        people listen to a component playing louder than another and then claim it sounds better? - Richard BassNut Greene 08:51:01 03/24/08 (2)
        
        Yo BassTrap: call me Amish... - robert young 15:50:14 03/26/08 (1)
        
        Not only that, but - E-Stat 05:39:01 03/31/08 (0)
    - "if RBG comes to florida everything will change." .... "so you'd think anyone with 1/2 a brain would realise " - Richard BassNut Greene 13:19:15 03/21/08 (9)
      - RBG States SBTs Are Valid But Denies They're A REAL Blind Test If The Results Don't Support His Audio Beliefs. - thetubeguy1954 09:28:30 03/24/08 (8)
        
        My psychiatrist has instructed me to read every third word in your diatribes, er posts, & respond with respect - Richard BassNut Greene 10:04:00 03/24/08 (7)
        
        At Least You Admit You Need A Psychiatrist - thetubeguy1954 12:58:17 03/24/08 (6)
        
        I have edited your post to eliminate all non-audio comments - Richard BassNut Greene 08:55:55 03/25/08 (0)
        
        I can admit it as well - kerr 13:35:37 03/24/08 (4)
        
        Stop being so funny - Richard BassNut Greene 08:58:37 03/25/08 (1)
        
        Until Mrs BassNut decides to join our merry band of PHP nutcases... - kerr 10:15:43 03/25/08 (0)
        
        BRAVO! (nt) - thetubeguy1954 05:53:51 03/25/08 (1)
        
        Yeah you just LOVE IT when someone else insults me! - Richard BassNut Greene 08:18:18 03/26/08 (0)
  - "No one has ever been able to prove to witnesses" You don't even expect that of what you buy. nt - Norm 11:20:11 03/21/08 (0)
  - It wa only a matter of time: RBNG posts the same thing for the 723rd time! (nt) - robert young 10:42:39 03/21/08 (10)
    - And you've read it for the 723rd time, complained 723 times & refuted nothing!...So I know for sure your "nt" means.. - Richard BassNut Greene 11:51:52 03/21/08 (4)
      - That was weak, RG. - robert young 14:46:29 03/24/08 (3)
        
        395 - Richard BassNut Greene 09:01:42 03/25/08 (2)
        
        You must be nearly spherical by now. You are.... - robert young 09:13:50 03/25/08 (1)
        
        I give up! - kerr 10:19:13 03/25/08 (0)
    - LOL! The "anti-audiophile" Mr. Nut strikes once again...(nt) - mkuller 10:57:26 03/21/08 (4)
      - Pro-reality does not mean "anti-audiophile", Mr. Fantasyland audiophile! - Richard BassNut Greene 11:53:58 03/21/08 (0)
      - And since DBTs "Don't Work" proof is sidestepped once again! ha ha. (nt) - Presto 11:01:52 03/21/08 (2)
        
        Yeah hiding the brand name really throws off the hearing ability of those pesky golden ears! - Richard BassNut Greene 11:55:59 03/21/08 (1)
        
        What methodology did you call upon... - Wellfed 21:25:55 03/25/08 (0)
- Please distribute one to each Oubjectivist around here - thetubeguy1954 06:12:06 03/21/08 (0)
- RE: Here's a clue............Be careful - chris_w 17:10:20 03/20/08 (0)
- This not a clue, this is reality. - Dan Banquer 16:36:48 03/20/08 (37)
  - RE: This not a clue, this is reality. - Steve Eddy 10:03:32 03/21/08 (0)
  - RE: This not a clue, this is reality. - gymwear5@hotmail.com 21:43:13 03/20/08 (35)
    - RE: This not a clue, this is reality. - Steve Eddy 10:06:09 03/21/08 (32)
      - RE: This not a clue, this is reality. - gymwear5@hotmail.com 07:01:52 03/24/08 (31)
        
        Q: - jneutron 07:55:29 03/24/08 (30)
        
        Another Q: - AJinFLA 15:38:06 03/24/08 (21)
        
        Found a candidate. - jneutron 05:57:35 03/25/08 (20)
        
        For president? - AJinFLA 18:16:47 03/25/08 (1)
        
        RE: For president? - jneutron 18:35:46 03/25/08 (0)
        
        RE: Found a candidate. - morricab 08:56:06 03/25/08 (17)
        
        RE: Found a candidate. - jneutron 10:13:31 03/25/08 (16)
        
        RE: Interconnects - rick_m 07:58:49 03/26/08 (3)
        
        RE: Interconnects - jneutron 09:45:29 03/26/08 (2)
        
        RE: Interconnects - rick_m 13:43:55 03/26/08 (1)
        
        RE: Interconnects - jneutron 13:51:33 03/26/08 (0)
        
        RE: Found a candidate. - morricab 01:51:03 03/26/08 (11)
        
        RE: Found a candidate. - jneutron 09:37:00 03/26/08 (10)
        
        Why bother listening... - rick_m 23:57:27 03/30/08 (9)
        
        Neat. - jneutron 06:40:21 04/01/08 (6)
        
        RE: Neat. - rick_m 10:15:23 04/01/08 (5)
        
        Excellent. - jneutron 12:29:39 04/01/08 (4)
        
        RE: Excellent. - rick_m 14:29:54 04/01/08 (3)
        
        RE: Excellent. - jneutron 07:55:18 04/02/08 (2)
        
        RE: Excellent. - rick_m 10:00:24 04/02/08 (1)
        
        RE: Excellent. - jneutron 12:36:45 04/02/08 (0)
        
        RE: Why bother listening... - morricab 04:36:12 03/31/08 (1)
        
        RE: Why bother listening... - rick_m 08:33:04 03/31/08 (0)
        
        RE: Q: - gymwear5@hotmail.com 08:41:28 03/24/08 (7)
        
        RE: Q: - jneutron 09:07:08 03/24/08 (6)
        
        RE: Q: - gymwear5@hotmail.com 11:14:55 03/24/08 (5)
        
        RE: Q: - jneutron 12:15:18 03/24/08 (4)
        
        RE: Q: - gymwear5@hotmail.com 12:43:41 03/24/08 (3)
        
        RE: Q: - jneutron 09:51:40 03/25/08 (2)
        
        RE: Q: long.... - gymwear5@hotmail.com 11:14:12 03/25/08 (1)
        
        RE: Q: long.... - jneutron 12:21:14 03/25/08 (0)
    - Interesting....... - Todd Krieger 23:16:29 03/20/08 (1)
      - RE: Interesting....... - gymwear5@hotmail.com 07:28:45 03/24/08 (0)
- RE: Here's a clue............ - andy_c 14:01:03 03/20/08 (39)
  - Teach me! - Don T 14:42:22 03/20/08 (38)
    - RE: Teach me! - andy_c 15:55:39 03/20/08 (37)
      - RE: Teach me! - Don T 22:01:20 03/20/08 (0)
      - In any event there is still the - bjh 19:46:42 03/20/08 (35)
        
        Non-linear distortion is not a matter of PH BS - Tony Lauck 09:57:21 03/21/08 (27)
        
        "A clear definition of distortion is necessary." Exactly what I was going to say! - clarkjohnsen 09:55:11 03/22/08 (16)
        
        RE: "A clear definition of distortion is necessary." Exactly what I was going to say! - andy_c 10:01:16 03/22/08 (15)
        
        Beats me, how those guys think they're adding anything to audio knowledge. THD+N indeed! nt - clarkjohnsen 11:06:44 03/22/08 (2)
        
        THD+N sucks... - andy_c 11:13:31 03/22/08 (1)
        
        Primitive, really... but look how some will sop it up. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:15:58 03/22/08 (0)
        
        RE: RMS detector... - rick_m 10:11:06 03/22/08 (11)
        
        RE: RMS detector... - andy_c 10:37:07 03/22/08 (10)
        
        You're right. Ironic, isn't it? - rick_m 10:55:54 03/22/08 (9)
        
        Okay, I found more info on this... - andy_c 11:07:35 03/22/08 (8)
        
        RE: Have fun... - rick_m 11:32:45 03/22/08 (7)
        
        FFT Analyzers are the way to go... - gymwear5@hotmail.com 07:12:40 03/25/08 (6)
        
        You bet! - rick_m 09:34:43 03/25/08 (0)
        
        RE: FFT Analyzers are the way to go... - morricab 09:07:19 03/25/08 (4)
        
        RE: FFT Analyzers are the way to go... - gymwear5@hotmail.com 12:31:22 03/25/08 (3)
        
        RE: FFT Analyzers are the way to go... - morricab 02:03:56 03/26/08 (2)
        
        RE: FFT Analyzers are the way to go... - gymwear5@hotmail.com 07:50:46 03/26/08 (1)
        
        RE: FFT Analyzers are the way to go... - morricab 01:11:52 03/27/08 (0)
        
        Look... - bjh 18:17:19 03/21/08 (9)
        
        RE: Look... - Don T 08:53:44 03/22/08 (2)
        
        RE: Look... - andy_c 09:52:40 03/22/08 (1)
        
        look - Don T 07:31:38 03/24/08 (0)
        
        RE: Look... - Tony Lauck 19:15:51 03/21/08 (5)
        
        Really? - bjh 19:23:39 03/21/08 (4)
        
        RE: Really? - Tony Lauck 19:43:55 03/21/08 (3)
        
        I have a tape (15ips) of the Mahler First where his mistake makes more sense than the composer's own notes! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:49:35 03/22/08 (1)
        
        RE: I have a tape (15ips) of the Mahler First where his mistake makes more sense than the composer's own notes - Todd Krieger 08:54:14 03/23/08 (0)
        
        RE: Really? - Dan Banquer 07:25:21 03/22/08 (0)
        
        RE: In any event there is still the - andy_c 08:45:38 03/21/08 (6)
        
        Distortion... - rick_m 23:00:31 03/22/08 (5)
        
        RE: Distortion... - andy_c 09:45:23 03/23/08 (1)
        
        RE: Distortion... - rick_m 10:53:50 03/23/08 (0)
        
        RE: Distortion... - Tony Lauck 07:02:21 03/23/08 (2)
        
        RE: Distortion... - rick_m 10:05:37 03/23/08 (1)
        
        RE: Distortion... - Tony Lauck 13:52:39 03/23/08 (0)
- It's all about the system - E-Stat 13:42:37 03/20/08 (0)
The science behind fast woofers and slow woofers - Richard BassNut Greene 09:06:46 03/19/08 (40)
- Smaller woofers *do* have lower mms typically but... - Presto 11:27:32 03/20/08 (2)
  - "That is why 18" prosound drivers can have rib-cracking tight bass " - Richard BassNut Greene 08:06:22 03/21/08 (1)
    - I said "Rib cracking tight bass"... - Presto 11:00:51 03/21/08 (0)
- Why do some people not understand the idea behind slow bass? - Analog Scott 09:14:51 03/20/08 (0)
- Wrong - Jon Risch 19:24:01 03/19/08 (9)
  - The usual attack first, think later ... and then provide a wrong answer? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:35:02 03/20/08 (5)
    - RE: The usual attack first, think later ... and then provide a wrong answer? - morricab 11:03:35 03/20/08 (2)
      - I focused on woofer acceleration in response to changes in current (music) -- many other factors are more important - Richard BassNut Greene 12:31:59 03/21/08 (1)
        
        The issue - bjh 06:40:32 03/22/08 (0)
    - RE: The usual attack first, think later ... and then provide a wrong answer? - Todd Krieger 09:09:01 03/20/08 (1)
      - I would like to tell you that I agree 100% but ,,, - Richard BassNut Greene 11:58:12 03/21/08 (0)
  - RE: Wrong - Todd Krieger 19:36:00 03/19/08 (2)
    - RE: Wrong - morricab 11:05:29 03/20/08 (1)
      - RE: Wrong - rick_m 14:15:05 03/20/08 (0)
- RE: The science behind fast woofers and slow woofers - Todd Krieger 18:58:43 03/19/08 (0)
- If F=MA - unclestu52 12:17:08 03/19/08 (4)
  - RE: If F=MA - Todd Krieger 18:43:17 03/19/08 (0)
  - RE: If F=MA - jpvs 13:46:42 03/19/08 (2)
    - the math does not lie - unclestu52 17:28:51 03/19/08 (1)
      - addendum - unclestu52 00:47:32 03/20/08 (0)
- fast woofers and slow tweeters - tomservo 11:02:11 03/19/08 (0)
- RE: The science behind fast woofers and slow woofers - LarryB 10:00:47 03/19/08 (6)
  - Dan Wiggin's White Paper on Woofer "Speed" - jpvs 11:39:27 03/19/08 (5)
    - Thank you. My memory of that paper was the primary source for my original post. Maybe I'm not senile yet! - Richard BassNut Greene 07:50:47 03/20/08 (4)
      - RE: Thank you. My memory of that paper was the primary source for my original post. Maybe I'm not senile yet! - jpvs 12:30:25 03/20/08 (0)
      - Where's this resume of yours going? I'm sure few people here would be glad to give references...N/T - carcass93 09:25:05 03/20/08 (2)
        
        It's been sitting next to the IBM typewriter collecting dust since 1977 - Richard BassNut Greene 09:47:43 03/20/08 (1)
        
        Sure you can! BTW, "couldn't get the wife to say anything good" - is it only because... - carcass93 10:47:15 03/20/08 (0)
- RE: The science behind fast woofers and slow woofers - morricab 09:33:00 03/19/08 (11)
  - And the room is much more important than the enclosure design - Richard BassNut Greene 09:39:05 03/19/08 (10)
    - RE: And the room is much more important than the enclosure design - morricab 10:55:12 03/20/08 (4)
      - "The 10 inch sealed box woofers I use for my ribbon hybrids are very fast and tight sounding" - Richard BassNut Greene 12:01:57 03/21/08 (1)
        
        RE: "The 10 inch sealed box woofers I use for my ribbon hybrids are very fast and tight sounding" - morricab 09:17:17 03/25/08 (0)
      - "I would check your calculations again then RBNG" - Richard BassNut Greene 08:24:25 03/21/08 (1)
        
        RE: "I would check your calculations again then RBNG" - morricab 09:19:14 03/25/08 (0)
    - "Tight bass is impossible in most rooms without lots of bass traps and parametric EQ." Nonsense. nt - Norm 10:16:19 03/19/08 (4)
      - I'd not call it "nonsense". Yet I never use any bass traps or EQ - cheap-Jack 13:05:48 03/19/08 (3)
        
        RE: I'd not call it "nonsense". Yet I never use any bass traps or EQ - morricab 10:56:54 03/20/08 (2)
        
        That's nothing to brag about, as most rooms would benefit from bass traps and bass parametric EQ - Richard BassNut Greene 12:03:35 03/21/08 (1)
        
        RE: That's nothing to brag about, as most rooms would benefit from bass traps and bass parametric EQ - morricab 09:14:57 03/25/08 (0)
Do you characterize yourself as an "objectivist" or as a "subjectivist?" - Norm 08:28:34 03/19/08 (48)
- Although I do scientific research in a very objective manner, in audio I am a subjectivist - AJinFLA 20:47:20 03/20/08 (2)
  - I Realize You're Laughing At Me...... - Todd Krieger 22:49:25 03/20/08 (1)
    - Mental disorders should not be a laughing matter - AJinFLA 14:51:34 03/23/08 (0)
- Probably Both........ - Todd Krieger 19:28:55 03/19/08 (1)
  - Either term is pretty meaningless... - mkuller 19:54:35 03/19/08 (0)
- Objectivist caught in a subjectivists body. Read on... - Presto 15:43:08 03/19/08 (0)
- An objectivist of course - Don T 12:28:10 03/19/08 (0)
- Neither.... - mkuller 11:27:14 03/19/08 (6)
  - RE: that's called anecdotal.... - theaudiohobby 05:10:05 03/26/08 (0)
  - New Group! "Observationalists!" Cool - how do I join?! :o) nt - Presto 16:10:54 03/19/08 (4)
    - Send me $50 and I'll send you a badge...(nt) - mkuller 16:12:31 03/19/08 (3)
      - A badge.... A BADGE .......we don't need no stinkin' BADGES ! - Richard BassNut Greene 08:07:42 03/20/08 (0)
      - Sorry, I'm a non-profit-organizationalist! ha ha (nt) - Presto 22:23:21 03/19/08 (1)
        
        Me, too...I promise to reinvest any profits back into audio (mine)...(nt) - mkuller 10:59:15 03/21/08 (0)
- Groupie! I'm entirely reliant on the SF RCL for *all* my audio decisions. - bjh 10:48:15 03/19/08 (2)
  - That makes you an "objectivist" since your subjective opinion doesn't enter into it...(nt) - mkuller 16:08:08 03/19/08 (1)
    - I know what "objectivist" means! Try not to annoy me... or in other words - bjh 18:53:04 03/19/08 (0)
- that's easy subjectivist by defintion - Analog Scott 10:12:02 03/19/08 (10)
  - But you still have to organize and quantify the experience - Don T 12:34:30 03/19/08 (8)
    - RE: But you still have to organize and quantify the experience - Analog Scott 08:24:40 03/20/08 (7)
      - You don't have to do anything but you more than likely probably do. - Don T 21:03:13 03/20/08 (6)
        
        I think you are just making up your own definitions now - Analog Scott 13:46:29 03/23/08 (5)
        
        Oh? Please post your dictionary definition. Here is mine - - Don T 07:11:23 03/24/08 (4)
        
        I did with my first post but I'll do it again for you. - Analog Scott 17:50:46 03/24/08 (3)
        
        Do you really not compare audio equipment and how well it works for you? - Don T 06:34:03 03/25/08 (2)
        
        What didn't you understnad about the definition I gave to you? - Analog Scott 11:32:09 03/25/08 (1)
        
        Because relying on cognition, pragmatism, thought, and reasoning excludes you from being a subjectivist.... - Don T 12:17:24 03/25/08 (0)
  - I can't think of my own stuff, so... - kerr 10:23:49 03/19/08 (0)
- Ah..no - tomservo 10:08:11 03/19/08 (1)
  - "In your work, does anyone describe themselves as Subjectivists?" - Norm 10:26:14 03/19/08 (0)
- RE: Do you characterize yourself as an "objectivist" or as a "subjectivist?" - thetubeguy1954 09:52:08 03/19/08 (3)
  - Moulton makes good sense here -- thanks. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:50:35 03/19/08 (2)
    - Hey Clark u Might Be Surprised To Know That... - thetubeguy1954 11:46:57 03/21/08 (1)
      - Thanks. But I think your earlier spelling was the correct one. - clarkjohnsen 09:29:04 03/22/08 (0)
- 100% subjectivist when listening to music for pleasure - Richard BassNut Greene 09:46:46 03/19/08 (3)
  - Why would you be interested in buying some equipment? nt - Norm 10:49:26 03/19/08 (0)
  - So, you buy without listening then, right? - Enophile 10:29:34 03/19/08 (1)
    - Not at all --- I borrow and compare components at home with what I already own - Richard BassNut Greene 08:29:47 03/20/08 (0)
- I am an observationalist - E-Stat 09:40:39 03/19/08 (4)
  - Indeed. And speaking for myself, I've been making that point for a couple decades. In fact... - clarkjohnsen 10:47:49 03/19/08 (0)
  - reams of tests with null results means either that the methods are wrong, or that our theories are incomplete, - Norm 10:32:39 03/19/08 (1)
    - Inconclusive is inconclusive - E-Stat 12:41:37 03/19/08 (0)
  - good answer....nt - Ken Perkins 10:26:15 03/19/08 (0)
- Good question, Norm! - Enophile 09:31:25 03/19/08 (0)
- I am a music lover - Richard BassNut Greene 09:28:36 03/19/08 (1)
  - No, no, no! That's wrong, totally wrong! - Pat D 10:50:05 03/19/08 (0)
- None of the above. - rick_m 08:55:59 03/19/08 (1)
  - While I agree with everything you say, there are obviously two schools of thought evident here. - Norm 10:45:18 03/19/08 (0)
"I feel this is the first really significant contribution to the audio field in years." - Richard BassNut Greene 08:07:04 03/18/08 (81)
- Oh, well, never mind. nt - Norm 20:35:45 03/18/08 (0)
- ROTFLMAO!!!! - Don T 13:59:34 03/18/08 (0)
- Now go read... - mkuller 11:07:37 03/18/08 (37)
  - Jon Risch makes extraordinary claims about his hearing ability that I believe are 100% false -- why trust him? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:31:29 03/19/08 (36)
    - The usual BassNut BS - Jon Risch 19:10:19 03/19/08 (7)
      - Yes Jon This Is The Usual BassNut B$hit - thetubeguy1954 08:20:03 03/21/08 (0)
      - RE: Dielectric list. - rick_m 14:33:09 03/20/08 (0)
      - If you can hear differences among one dozen wire insulation materials in DBTs, then I'll eat my hat - Richard BassNut Greene 09:07:54 03/20/08 (3)
        
        Mr. Peabody's Improbable History - andy_c 12:41:57 03/20/08 (0)
        
        Do all hats taste the same? - kerr 10:40:11 03/20/08 (1)
        
        No, some taste like chicken (nt) - AJinFLA 20:35:40 03/20/08 (0)
      - Speaking of which - E-Stat 20:43:59 03/19/08 (0)
    - IOW DBTs are only valid if you agree with the results - Analog Scott 07:43:04 03/19/08 (27)
      - Actually DBT's are only valid for the participants, equipment and recordings used - Richard BassNut Greene 07:57:42 03/19/08 (26)
        
        "In addition the results also only apply to the day of the test." - pburant 09:32:26 03/19/08 (1)
        
        If people are wild guessing about A or B the results are likely to vary slightly each time a test is done - Richard BassNut Greene 09:41:54 03/19/08 (0)
        
        irony sets in. By your logic you can't recomend anything based on DBTs. - Analog Scott 09:01:12 03/19/08 (23)
        
        You assume Risch is honest - Richard BassNut Greene 09:44:46 03/19/08 (22)
        
        No you assume he is dishonest because you don't like his results - Analog Scott 09:51:06 03/19/08 (21)
        
        What results? - AJinFLA 20:18:16 03/20/08 (4)
        
        Do you know who you are talking to? - Analog Scott 13:53:27 03/23/08 (3)
        
        I'm talking to make up artist Analog Scott - AJinFLA 14:14:41 03/23/08 (2)
        
        i see you just don't understand simple English - Analog Scott 14:24:45 03/23/08 (1)
        
        Indeed I have not picked and chosen "them" - AJinFLA 15:06:38 03/23/08 (0)
        
        Bogus extraordinary unwitnessed claims that no one else in the world has claimed ... are not "test results" - Richard BassNut Greene 10:02:37 03/19/08 (15)
        
        Your attacks on Risch are truly pathetic. - Analog Scott 10:19:02 03/19/08 (14)
        
        "you don't like the results" . - AJinFLA 20:21:10 03/20/08 (7)
        
        Why don't you aks the guy who came up with them or the guy objecting to them? - Analog Scott 13:54:41 03/23/08 (6)
        
        I am asking you Scotty. What "Results"? We'll understand if you are forced to do what you do best - AJinFLA 14:21:14 03/23/08 (5)
        
        RE: I am asking you Scotty. What "Results"? We'll understand if you are forced to do what you do best - Analog Scott 14:36:25 03/23/08 (4)
        
        "the results that Jon Risch came up with" - AJinFLA 15:19:04 03/23/08 (3)
        
        There are no results -- just unbelievable claims about what wire insulators sound best on a website - Richard BassNut Greene 07:05:16 03/24/08 (2)
        
        Makeup Artistry? (nt) - AJinFLA 15:16:32 03/24/08 (0)
        
        RE: Thanks for the data. - rick_m 08:34:52 03/24/08 (0)
        
        I question extraordinary hearing ability claims with no witnesses no matter who makes them. - Richard BassNut Greene 09:34:26 03/20/08 (5)
        
        RBG Question's Anyones Hearing Ability, Even With Witnesses If He Doesn't Like The Results - thetubeguy1954 08:48:13 03/21/08 (2)
        
        You claimed you could hear cable differences with brand namers hidden, but did no blind test to prove it - Richard BassNut Greene 12:13:18 03/21/08 (1)
        
        RE: You claimed you could hear cable differences with brand namers hidden, but did no blind test to prove it - thetubeguy1954 12:59:57 03/21/08 (0)
        
        RE: extraordinary hearing ability claims. - rick_m 18:47:03 03/20/08 (0)
        
        What then of substantiated claims? - E-Stat 12:15:37 03/20/08 (0)
- Going "green" are ya?... But I don't think that's what they meant by recycling. LOL. - bjh 10:37:14 03/18/08 (0)
- When You Read The Entire Article It Is Richard - thetubeguy1954 10:11:04 03/18/08 (7)
  - Holt obviously found his ears were NOT as good as he claimed so ... - Richard BassNut Greene 10:21:16 03/18/08 (6)
    - Holt Obviously Found His Ears WERE As Good As He Claimed... - thetubeguy1954 11:48:26 03/18/08 (4)
      - "How do you guys drive cars? Can you ever really be sure the car in front of you is really there?" Oh, BURN! n - clarkjohnsen 10:37:29 03/19/08 (1)
        
        Well we're both sure of one thing and that is: YOU*** ARE*** AN ..... - Richard BassNut Greene 09:50:34 03/20/08 (0)
      - Holt Obviously claimed His Ears WERE Good and never tested them - Richard BassNut Greene 09:48:55 03/19/08 (1)
        
        RE: Holt Obviously claimed His Ears WERE Good and never tested them - thetubeguy1954 14:28:25 03/19/08 (0)
    - Sounds like you're retreating, RBNG. - robert young 11:35:57 03/18/08 (0)
- RE: "I feel this is the first really significant contribution to the audio field in years." - Dan Banquer 09:43:06 03/18/08 (5)
  - Training is crucial... - mkuller 11:04:30 03/18/08 (3)
    - Training makes no difference with wires -- no one can ever hear differences other than SPL - Richard BassNut Greene 07:47:39 03/19/08 (2)
      - RE: Training makes no difference with wires -- no one can ever hear differences other than SPL - morricab 01:16:46 03/27/08 (0)
      - Speaking of auditory acuity - E-Stat 09:35:13 03/19/08 (0)
  - You've raised an important point - E-Stat 10:09:23 03/18/08 (0)
- It is funny to see objectivists rallying around the pioneer of subjective reviewing - Analog Scott 09:36:06 03/18/08 (6)
  - RE: It is funny to see objectivists rallying around the pioneer of subjective reviewing - gymwear5@hotmail.com 12:32:33 03/18/08 (5)
    - A writer ruined high end audio? - Analog Scott 20:25:16 03/18/08 (4)
      - RE: A writer ruined high end audio? - gymwear5@hotmail.com 07:03:07 03/19/08 (3)
        
        RE: A writer ruined high end audio? - rick_m 08:09:45 03/19/08 (2)
        
        "Less than the number of folks who ended up with crap by believing Julian Hirsch." Touche! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:39:31 03/19/08 (1)
        
        Which is even less than the number people believing in Clark Johnsen! Touche! nt - Dan Banquer 11:01:47 03/19/08 (0)
- "Subjective observations have no scientific respectability unless backed up with numbers." - Enophile 08:46:07 03/18/08 (18)
  - Some people enjoy learning more about their true hearing abilities rather than assuming everything sounds different - Richard BassNut Greene 09:47:24 03/18/08 (17)
    - "gaining knowledge through experiments IS fun." I agree, but it is not necessary to decide what I listen to. n - Norm 08:01:45 03/19/08 (0)
    - RE: Some people enjoy learning more about their true hearing abilities rather than assuming everything sounds different - Analog Scott 21:19:49 03/18/08 (0)
    - You are so right! - E-Stat 16:29:35 03/18/08 (0)
    - Attention, all color-blind owners of $99 Walmart Special TV sets! We BADLY need your input... - carcass93 10:17:48 03/18/08 (13)
      - My Zenith 19" TV cost $150 - Richard BassNut Greene 10:24:20 03/18/08 (12)
        
        RE: My Zenith 19" TV cost $150 - Analog Scott 21:25:18 03/18/08 (0)
        
        RE: My Zenith 19" TV cost $150 - thetubeguy1954 12:43:19 03/18/08 (10)
        
        It takes a lot of training to be a staunch objectivist - kerr 13:46:08 03/18/08 (5)
        
        Holy S.H.I.T.! Thas' funny, mon. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:43:12 03/19/08 (0)
        
        Bwahahahahaha - E-Stat 16:33:05 03/18/08 (3)
        
        Hey, man - kerr 18:36:20 03/18/08 (2)
        
        Sign me up - E-Stat 19:05:57 03/18/08 (1)
        
        Done - kerr 04:30:47 03/19/08 (0)
        
        You're wrong about one thing - he's not "self-appointed savior of audiophiles", but rather... - carcass93 13:16:17 03/18/08 (3)
        
        Ummmm . . . - Pat D 15:08:10 03/18/08 (2)
        
        If you are right, we need new terms for those who trust their ears and those who want blind experiments. nt - Norm 07:59:53 03/19/08 (1)
        
        Must we? - rick_m 10:40:34 03/19/08 (0)
All your cables will soon be obsolete... - Scrith 09:45:37 03/17/08 (12)
- Not at all. The only thing this technology will result in is - AJinFLA 14:55:36 03/17/08 (2)
  - Are you a Luddite? - morricab 01:02:50 03/18/08 (0)
  - When you put it that way ... - bjh 18:41:26 03/17/08 (0)
- That's what was said about fiber optics, and... - Duster 11:44:54 03/17/08 (2)
  - A simple question.. - cheap-Jack 13:24:37 03/17/08 (1)
    - Possible answer... - bjh 13:57:00 03/17/08 (0)
- I don't think so... - cheap-Jack 11:26:23 03/17/08 (2)
  - A rethinking - unclestu52 13:40:24 03/17/08 (1)
    - Electron ordering is the term Dale Pitcher used to talk about... - clio09 15:16:30 03/18/08 (0)
- Nano Technology IS the future... - Audio Pharaoh 11:17:55 03/17/08 (0)
- I don't know what "truly sounds better" means, but we will need a substitute for copper as we are running out. - Norm 11:16:08 03/17/08 (0)
- RE: All your cables will soon be obsolete... - Gataca 09:55:04 03/17/08 (0)
What Is The Biggest Problem With Speakers Today? - thetubeguy1954 12:00:16 03/13/08 (176)
- RE: What Is The Biggest Problem With Speakers Today? - Brian Cheney 19:56:59 03/15/08 (15)
  - Brain What's Your Thoughts On This? - thetubeguy1954 09:54:04 03/16/08 (14)
    - RE: Brain What's Your Thoughts On This? - Brian Cheney 10:29:15 03/16/08 (13)
      - What does Pinky think? (nt) - AJinFLA 16:07:05 03/16/08 (12)
        
        NARF! - Bruce Kendall 10:38:44 03/17/08 (11)
        
        RE: NARF! - thetubeguy1954 11:51:45 03/17/08 (10)
        
        Well, Pinky is one of my favorite cartoon characters. - Bruce Kendall 12:16:21 03/17/08 (9)
        
        "Normal," no: usual, yes. (nt) - robert young 13:22:38 03/17/08 (8)
        
        Sadly It's Normal For The Tampa Weiner (nt) - thetubeguy1954 13:34:03 03/17/08 (7)
        
        So let me guess. It's only the subjectivists doing the Hokey-Pokey. - Bruce Kendall 15:09:35 03/17/08 (6)
        
        RE: So let me guess. It's only the subjectivists doing the Hokey-Pokey. - thetubeguy1954 07:20:01 03/18/08 (0)
        
        Please provide proof of your extraordinary Hokey-Pokey ability - kerr 17:13:28 03/17/08 (4)
        
        I would, but some people believe that all - Bruce Kendall 10:43:20 03/18/08 (3)
        
        RE: I would, but some people believe that all - kerr 10:59:11 03/18/08 (2)
        
        If I tried it with someone else's shoes - Bruce Kendall 11:28:37 03/18/08 (1)
        
        Begone, and don't return until you have DBT results! :) (nt) - kerr 12:16:04 03/18/08 (0)
- Y'all may pull off my audio epaulettes and break my sword, but... - Enophile 23:23:26 03/14/08 (0)
- That they cannot now, and likely never will, make up for 2nd rate recordings (nt) - Presto 23:02:05 03/14/08 (0)
- All we need is a good reverse microphone capable of sending waves back as received by the mic. - Norm 18:36:01 03/14/08 (0)
- Well, if yer talking about "audiophile" speakers . . . - markrohr 14:47:03 03/14/08 (2)
  - RE: Well, if yer talking about "audiophile" speakers . . . - thetubeguy1954 12:10:23 03/17/08 (0)
  - I hear it often if it don't often sound like dog poop or painful it ain't accurate! - Don T 20:59:10 03/14/08 (0)
- What are The Biggest Problems With Speakers Today? - tomservo 12:01:52 03/14/08 (3)
  - RE: What are The Biggest Problems With Speakers Today? - AJinFLA 16:17:22 03/16/08 (0)
  - "A gloomy list" indeed! And you didn't even mention "the crossover catastrophe". nt - clarkjohnsen 10:15:09 03/15/08 (1)
    - Gloomy for sure from the consumers perspective. - Ugly 14:38:49 03/15/08 (0)
- They mostly are phase incoherencers! Why has no one mentioned this? - clarkjohnsen 09:25:51 03/14/08 (42)
  - Offering 1st order acoustic designs as a panacea.... - Presto 11:45:17 03/18/08 (1)
    - "All speakers are wrong." Now there's a truism! But the point I was making... - clarkjohnsen 09:56:49 03/19/08 (0)
  - Because most people don't listen to headphones - AJinFLA 15:33:19 03/16/08 (6)
    - You sure of that ? - E-Stat 15:44:08 03/16/08 (5)
      - I suspect if Clark had one of those - AJinFLA 16:04:43 03/16/08 (4)
        
        So... - E-Stat 17:03:43 03/16/08 (3)
        
        RE: So... - AJinFLA 18:54:39 03/17/08 (2)
        
        Finally - E-Stat 14:51:06 03/18/08 (0)
        
        By all means - E-Stat 19:34:07 03/17/08 (0)
  - The only speakers that have given me an 'out-of-body' experience - Al Sekela 12:00:44 03/16/08 (5)
    - Beveridge Model 2s? - AJinFLA 15:58:38 03/16/08 (3)
      - I've heard them, too... - mkuller 11:30:56 03/17/08 (2)
        
        RE: I've heard them, too... - c1ferrari 22:43:53 03/21/08 (0)
        
        RE: I've heard them, too... - thetubeguy1954 11:56:10 03/17/08 (0)
    - I have heard them! But at a dealer's where nothing sounded particularly good [sigh]. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:16:32 03/16/08 (0)
  - RE: They mostly are phase incoherencers! Why has no one mentioned this? - morricab 17:27:39 03/15/08 (0)
  - RE: Why has no one mentioned this? - unclestu52 11:51:51 03/14/08 (14)
    - Why has no one mentioned this? Maybe because... - KlausR. 23:13:08 03/14/08 (13)
      - RE: Why has no one mentioned this? Maybe because... - unclestu52 23:32:58 03/14/08 (12)
        
        RE: Why has no one mentioned this? Maybe because... - KlausR. 06:34:15 03/15/08 (11)
        
        It would seem - unclestu52 20:03:58 03/15/08 (10)
        
        What would you think these speakers cost? - KlausR. 00:05:21 03/16/08 (9)
        
        RE: What would you think these speakers cost? - morricab 01:09:20 03/18/08 (4)
        
        The in-room response is actually quite bad too! - KlausR. 01:35:23 03/18/08 (3)
        
        RE: The in-room response is actually quite bad too! - morricab 08:41:32 03/18/08 (2)
        
        On-axis measurements - KlausR. 03:18:51 03/19/08 (1)
        
        RE: On-axis measurements - morricab 09:40:42 03/19/08 (0)
        
        RE: What would you think these speakers cost? - unclestu52 00:53:07 03/16/08 (3)
        
        RE: What would you think these speakers cost? - KlausR. 08:25:09 03/16/08 (2)
        
        Some thoughts - unclestu52 13:14:51 03/17/08 (1)
        
        RE: Some thoughts - KlausR. 23:21:04 03/22/08 (0)
  - Good point ... and "ersatz spaciness" is a phrase that would describe how dipole speakers often sound to me - Richard BassNut Greene 09:44:02 03/14/08 (10)
    - If you don't mind me asking - AJinFLA 16:42:09 03/16/08 (9)
      - I don't mind anyone asking anything - Richard BassNut Greene 09:15:47 03/17/08 (7)
        
        You were supposed to go berserk. Are you getting rational on me? - AJinFLA 18:32:08 03/17/08 (0)
        
        "My hearing rolls off above 12kHz these days" - why then do you feel compelled ... - carcass93 11:40:21 03/17/08 (2)
        
        My comments on wires only concern the FACT that no one can EVER prove to witnesses they sound different - Richard BassNut Greene 07:55:20 03/18/08 (0)
        
        Touche (NT) - thetubeguy1954 12:13:14 03/17/08 (0)
        
        That Is The Weiner's Trademark Richard - thetubeguy1954 10:16:54 03/17/08 (2)
        
        "Welcome to the club Richard." - Richard BassNut Greene 07:44:10 03/18/08 (1)
        
        RE: "Welcome to the club Richard." - thetubeguy1954 09:19:20 03/18/08 (0)
      - RE: I was born in the late 60's. - rick_m 18:21:07 03/16/08 (0)
- The bass. (1) Weak under 50Hz. and/or (2) high harmonic distortion and/or Very Uneven due to room acoustics - Richard BassNut Greene 07:43:58 03/14/08 (10)
  - It depends on what music one is listening. - cheap-Jack 09:00:53 03/14/08 (5)
    - If you listen to classicial music. You need a sub. - GTF 19:00:01 03/17/08 (0)
    - The boom boom comes from the room not from the subwoofer - Richard BassNut Greene 09:26:39 03/14/08 (3)
      - *Amazing occurrence not likely to be repeated* - E-Stat 14:08:40 03/14/08 (2)
        
        RE: *Amazing occurrence not likely to be repeated* - Richard BassNut Greene 09:33:37 03/17/08 (1)
        
        See - E-Stat 09:53:46 03/17/08 (0)
  - Audibility of room modes... - KlausR. 08:39:16 03/14/08 (3)
    - get a bass guitar in the room and go up and down the scale - Richard BassNut Greene 10:18:42 03/14/08 (2)
      - Best thrown in the towel,... - bjh 08:45:34 03/15/08 (0)
      - RE: get a bass guitar in the room and go up and down the scale - KlausR. 08:01:21 03/15/08 (0)
- RE: What Is The Biggest Problem With Speakers Today? - KlausR. 07:06:19 03/14/08 (0)
- RE: What Is The Biggest Problem With Speakers Today? - andy19191 01:57:33 03/14/08 (28)
  - Focus on a single parameter - E-Stat 14:39:58 03/14/08 (0)
  - Those that responded to you are obviously quite insensitive. - bjh 10:58:11 03/14/08 (0)
  - Once again... - mkuller 10:34:25 03/14/08 (5)
    - RE: Once again... - andy19191 12:59:31 03/15/08 (4)
      - So, Mike - E-Stat 13:15:32 03/15/08 (3)
        
        A classic circular argument... - robert young 14:43:23 03/15/08 (2)
        
        He's a clown - you should see his nose and shoes! (nt) - mkuller 10:05:00 03/17/08 (0)
        
        Enrage? - E-Stat 12:27:13 03/16/08 (0)
  - Too many words to say that accuracy isn't actually that important - Don T 06:44:29 03/14/08 (4)
    - RE: Too many words to say that accuracy isn't actually that important - andy19191 11:54:14 03/14/08 (3)
      - RE: Too many words to say that accuracy isn't actually that important - Don T 14:02:45 03/14/08 (2)
        
        RE: Too many words to say that accuracy isn't actually that important - andy19191 12:51:25 03/15/08 (1)
        
        Indeed! - Don T 08:28:47 03/16/08 (0)
  - On what experience are you basing your generalization? - robert young 04:52:21 03/14/08 (14)
    - RE: On what experience are you basing your generalization? - andy19191 11:37:47 03/14/08 (9)
      - This is hilarious... - mkuller 10:11:50 03/17/08 (0)
      - Sorry it took so long to reply. I just spit up my lunch laughing. - robert young 12:48:03 03/15/08 (4)
        
        RE: Sorry it took so long to reply. I just spit up my lunch laughing. - andy19191 13:38:07 03/15/08 (3)
        
        Here's a little help. - robert young 13:50:36 03/15/08 (2)
        
        RE: Here's a little help. - andy19191 14:08:04 03/15/08 (1)
        
        It is a bit baffling - robert young 14:42:05 03/15/08 (0)
      - RE: On what experience are you basing your generalization? - Don T 12:01:53 03/14/08 (2)
        
        RE: On what experience are you basing your generalization? - andy19191 12:46:38 03/15/08 (1)
        
        RE: On what experience are you basing your generalization? - Don T 08:42:07 03/16/08 (0)
    - RE: Carnegie Hall doesn't measure flat - KlausR. 06:31:46 03/14/08 (3)
      - You appear to have missed the point. - robert young 06:34:26 03/14/08 (2)
        
        Then explain (nt) - KlausR. 06:39:25 03/14/08 (1)
        
        Shall I poour you some coffee, as well, sir? - robert young 06:41:26 03/14/08 (0)
- As soon as someone figures out how to make an all Plasma speaker - morricab 01:27:44 03/14/08 (51)
  - About a decade ago - unclestu52 14:17:42 03/17/08 (0)
  - Funny story about Nelson Pass and his plasma speakers - andy_c 11:58:34 03/17/08 (1)
    - RE: Funny story about Nelson Pass and his plasma speakers - morricab 13:10:06 03/17/08 (0)
  - This Is Very Close To My Opinion On This Issue. - thetubeguy1954 09:35:20 03/14/08 (47)
    - RE: This Is Very Close To My Opinion On This Issue. - andy19191 12:11:48 03/14/08 (46)
      - RE: This Is Very Close To My Opinion On This Issue. - morricab 16:34:47 03/15/08 (0)
      - In Theory You're Correct, But In Actuality You're Wrong! - thetubeguy1954 09:35:37 03/15/08 (44)
        
        RE: In Theory You're Correct, But In Actuality You're Wrong! - andy19191 12:34:33 03/15/08 (19)
        
        I Still Believe In Actuality You're Wrong & Here's Why! - thetubeguy1954 11:04:12 03/16/08 (15)
        
        RE: I Still Believe In Actuality You're Wrong & Here's Why! - andy19191 13:13:33 03/16/08 (14)
        
        There's A Difference Between What Happens In Reality Andy - thetubeguy1954 07:26:38 03/17/08 (7)
        
        RE: There's A Difference Between What Happens In Reality Andy - andy19191 08:45:55 03/17/08 (6)
        
        Are You Really This Dense? - thetubeguy1954 11:12:44 03/17/08 (5)
        
        RE: Are You Really This Dense? - andy19191 12:32:59 03/17/08 (4)
        
        RE: Are You Really This Dense? - thetubeguy1954 13:32:53 03/17/08 (3)
        
        RE: Are You Really This Dense? - andy19191 14:44:06 03/17/08 (2)
        
        Andy Doesn't Really Want To Discuss Audio Instead He's Using AA Members As "Guinea