I have been evaluating the USB input of the Ayre QX-5 Twenty with the microRendo. I found the sound to be a bit dark and not particularly well defined in the mid bass and bass compared to what I was hearing from the Ethernet input. My friend suggested to me that there might be leakage currents / common mode noise involving my Sonore Signature Power Supply and the microRendu. He made a small filter to go inline with the power supply."He felt that if this common mode filter changes the sound, that's an indication that there are common mode noise currents flowing through the path that includes your power supply for the microRendu. No common mode noise currents, no change, because there is nothing to filter."
Using the filter, the sound improved by a significant amount just about matching the sound quality I was hearing with the Ethernet connection. My friend is now building an even better filter for me.
Check out the video at AudioStream:
CES 2017: A Conversation with Juergen Reis (MBL) and John Atkinson (Stereophile)
Juergen discusses the back door leakage currents that are found in the complete system that can effect our evaluation of cables and other components besides having a negative impact on the sound of our systems.
Edits: 01/24/17 01/24/17 01/24/17 01/24/17 01/24/17 01/24/17
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Topic - Common Mode Noise - Mercman 10:56:04 01/24/17 (63)
- 'back door leakage currents' = ground loops (very, very looong post) - hfavandepas 10:32:22 01/26/17 (9)
- Nice read! - E-Stat 08:08:08 02/03/17 (0)
- A quick google search... - Presto 19:52:23 01/28/17 (1)
- Also... - Presto 20:01:18 01/28/17 (0)
- RE: 'back door leakage currents' = ground loops (very, very looong post) - Bibo01 23:22:30 01/27/17 (1)
- specs Epcos EMC Filters Series/Type: B84111A - hfavandepas 05:11:06 01/30/17 (0)
- RE: 'back door leakage currents' = ground loops (very, very looong post) - fmak 18:47:32 01/26/17 (1)
- hunt for another stick on plaster - hfavandepas 07:54:24 01/27/17 (0)
- great post, buddy! n/t - Ugly 15:33:38 01/26/17 (0)
- RE: 'back door leakage currents' = ground loops (very, very looong post) - Mercman 11:15:45 01/26/17 (0)
- Best see a doctor about that wound on you leg.... - Ivan303 19:36:46 01/25/17 (0)
- From another thread... - fmak 16:52:48 01/25/17 (42)
- RE: From another thread... - Mercman 03:23:25 01/26/17 (41)
- Steve, maybe this will help - AbeCollins 13:29:35 01/27/17 (1)
- Good one! (nt) - Mercman 13:44:19 01/27/17 (0)
- RE: From another thread... - fmak 05:18:39 01/26/17 (38)
- RE: From another thread... - Ryelands 06:42:13 01/26/17 (36)
- RE: From another thread... - soundchekk 07:02:04 01/30/17 (7)
- RE: From another thread... - Ryelands 08:13:31 01/30/17 (6)
- Just wait till I've optimised it . . . - fmak 18:05:17 02/01/17 (0)
- RE: From another thread... - soundchekk 01:24:23 01/31/17 (4)
- RE: From another thread... - Ryelands 04:54:14 01/31/17 (3)
- RE: From another thread... - soundchekk 07:21:54 01/31/17 (2)
- RE: From another thread... - Ryelands 08:16:06 01/31/17 (1)
- RE: From another thread... - soundchekk 12:45:00 01/31/17 (0)
- Think carefully - fmak 06:11:36 01/28/17 (2)
- RE: Think carefully - Mercman 07:03:42 01/28/17 (1)
- RE: Think carefully - fmak 07:20:32 01/28/17 (0)
- Indeed: very marked SQ improvement! Thank you for sharing ! (NT) - hfavandepas 08:02:28 01/27/17 (16)
- Comments on your post (sorry - a bit long) - Ryelands 09:37:32 01/27/17 (15)
- Separate post for your very effective LAN tweak? - hfavandepas 08:08:58 01/30/17 (1)
- I agree - Mercman 05:29:07 02/03/17 (0)
- RE: Comments on your post (sorry - a bit long) - fmak 01:14:29 01/30/17 (6)
- RE: Comments on your post (sorry - a bit long) - Ryelands 03:49:45 01/30/17 (5)
- Obvious Contradictions in Your Posts - fmak 05:51:27 01/30/17 (4)
- RE: Obvious Contradictions in Your Posts - Ryelands 06:24:35 01/30/17 (3)
- the rest of us - fmak 16:24:23 01/30/17 (2)
- the rest of us get it... - AbeCollins 17:31:30 01/30/17 (1)
- Trolling on - fmak 02:47:36 01/31/17 (0)
- RE: Comments on your post (sorry - a bit long) - Ugly 21:52:30 01/27/17 (5)
- now with added coils . . .) - Ryelands 06:02:13 01/28/17 (4)
- RE: now with added coils . . .) - Ugly 12:48:43 01/28/17 (2)
- RE: now with added coils . . .) - Ryelands 03:34:01 01/29/17 (1)
- RE: now with added coils . . .) - Ugly 14:15:47 01/30/17 (0)
- Additional Resources - AbeCollins 09:45:06 01/28/17 (0)
- "Optimising" in the PC audio context - fmak 16:53:41 01/26/17 (7)
- RE: "Optimising" in the PC audio context - Ryelands 03:34:14 01/27/17 (1)
- As I observed before... - E-Stat 06:51:58 02/04/17 (0)
- RE: "Optimising" in the PC audio context - Mercman 17:27:24 01/26/17 (4)
- RE: "Optimising" in the PC audio context -If - fmak 01:54:35 01/27/17 (3)
- RE: "Optimising" in the PC audio context -If - Mercman 02:18:28 01/27/17 (2)
- RE: "Optimising" in the PC audio context -If - fmak 03:34:57 01/27/17 (1)
- RE: "Optimising" in the PC audio context -If - Mercman 04:06:51 01/27/17 (0)
- RE: From another thread... - Mercman 06:09:51 01/26/17 (0)
- RE: Common Mode Noise - Ugly 16:50:49 01/25/17 (1)
- RE: Common Mode Noise - Mercman 03:20:39 01/26/17 (0)
- RE: Common Mode Noise - soundchekk 04:22:34 01/25/17 (5)
- RE: Common Mode Noise - Mercman 04:32:51 01/25/17 (4)
- RE: Common Mode Noise - fmak 01:51:38 01/27/17 (3)
- RE: Common Mode Noise - Mercman 02:23:47 01/27/17 (2)
- RE: Common Mode Noise-get the message - fmak 03:32:57 01/27/17 (1)
- RE: Common Mode Noise-get the message - Mercman 04:35:57 01/27/17 (0)
- RE: Common Mode Noise - AbeCollins 11:10:31 01/24/17 (0)