RE: Yes, you posted one example

Posted by beppe61 (A) on April 28, 2016 at 05:53:58

In Reply to: RE: Yes, you posted one example posted by Sordidman on April 27, 2016 at 13:15:14:

Hi and thanks a lot again for the very kind and valuable advice.

" Hi Beppe, Think of it this way. There is a sender and a receiver. The (USB powered) sender takes the USB signal and converts it from powered USB to the unpowered OSI model TCP/IP packet delivery protocol. "

This is a key point. I would like a Sender that takes only the "signal portion" off the usb port and not the power, and using instead power from an external ps for its functioning.
Moreover, if i understand well Tx is the sender and Rx the receiver ?

" Then there is an (ac-Powered, 5v DC output) Receiver on the other end that converts the TCP/IP protocol to an isolated, cleaner, "new" USB signal. "

If i understand correctly the Sender converts the usb signal to TCP/IP and the Receiver convert again the TCP/IP to usb ? i have to try and listen. The fact that Ethernet connections are recommended for longer distances i guess should mean something, like a more robust signal ?

" After that, one can add their USB to SPDIF converter, - or plug directly into their USB DAC.
The advantage to this, besides getting a "new," purer, isolated, USB signal, - is that it can be plugged into any RJ45 port on your network: so you can move your DAC/stereo easily all around the home, or keep your computer in your basement, - or in your attic, - (where it belongs). "

i am much more interested to the 1st point, the quality of the signal.
But i am sure that we will see some development on this topic.
I trust Ps Audio boss completely. If he says that it sounds great it must sound really great. I understand he is talking of another kind of device but i am willing to try something cheaper in the meantime.

" Those other devices, are more like USB extenders, that change/convert the cabling to the better separated individual strands of RJ45 cable, but still keep the USB signal intact with power, to extend it. These do not have the bandwidth of the former.
I would speculate that some of these "powered" non-lan, non-gigabit, cheaper adapters would cause much harm to LAN switches that use unpowered TCP/IP...
NOTICE the warning on this Extron Extender pic above: it is not one of the more expensive devices that PS-Audio and I are talking about "

i will look for this Extron model. I have one of the cheap ones and they work but i did not listen carefully. As you say they could do more harm than good to the signal.
Thanks a lot again.

Kind regards,
bg

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Topic - A potential new "game-changer" - Sordidman 11:49:07 04/26/16 (48)

RE: A potential new "game-changer" - Isaak J. Garvey 17:46:17 04/27/16 (2)

RE: A potential new "game-changer" - Sordidman 09:24:27 04/28/16 (1)

RE: A potential new "game-changer" - Isaak J. Garvey 10:11:01 04/28/16 (0)

Ps Audio video - beppe61 04:34:53 04/27/16 (0)

" Built in Galvanic isolation " - beppe61 23:30:59 04/26/16 (30)

RE: " Built in Galvanic isolation " - fmak 05:06:53 04/27/16 (1)

RE: " Built in Galvanic isolation " - beppe61 06:08:36 04/27/16 (0)

RE: " Built in Galvanic isolation " - Roseval 02:51:36 04/27/16 (27)

RE: " Built in Galvanic isolation " - beppe61 04:13:38 04/27/16 (26)

Yes, you posted one example - Sordidman 07:29:04 04/27/16 (24)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - beppe61 08:55:43 04/27/16 (23)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - AbeCollins 10:31:18 04/27/16 (3)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - beppe61 11:14:48 04/27/16 (2)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - AbeCollins 11:31:40 04/27/16 (1)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - beppe61 11:35:53 04/27/16 (0)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - Sordidman 10:05:03 04/27/16 (18)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - beppe61 10:33:49 04/27/16 (17)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - Sordidman 13:15:14 04/27/16 (15)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - beppe61 06:07:19 04/28/16 (12)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - Sordidman 06:40:25 04/28/16 (11)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - beppe61 06:52:02 04/28/16 (10)

Here's a good rule of thumb - Sordidman 07:10:55 04/28/16 (9)

RE: Here's a good rule of thumb - beppe61 08:51:50 04/28/16 (8)

RE: Here's a good rule of thumb - Sordidman 09:25:46 04/28/16 (7)

RE: Here's a good rule of thumb - beppe61 09:40:49 04/28/16 (6)

RE: Here's a good rule of thumb - Sordidman 10:54:49 04/28/16 (5)

RE: Here's a good rule of thumb - beppe61 11:10:09 04/28/16 (4)

RE: Here's a good rule of thumb - Sordidman 14:37:13 04/28/16 (3)

RE: Here's a good rule of thumb - beppe61 23:45:25 04/28/16 (2)

RE: Here's a good rule of thumb - Sordidman 09:16:50 04/29/16 (1)

RE: Here's a good rule of thumb - beppe61 14:19:16 04/29/16 (0)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - beppe61 05:53:58 04/28/16 (1)

I don't think that the Extron is what you want - Sordidman 06:55:30 04/28/16 (0)

RE: Yes, you posted one example - AbeCollins 10:43:54 04/27/16 (0)

RE: " Built in Galvanic isolation " - Roseval 05:19:13 04/27/16 (0)

network players - Tom Schuman 23:25:49 04/26/16 (2)

This product is not an "audio" product - Sordidman 07:24:02 04/27/16 (0)

RE: network players - Cut-Throat 05:38:37 04/27/16 (0)

Kinda funny... - AbeCollins 14:15:03 04/26/16 (7)

It's $479 - Sordidman 16:09:02 04/26/16 (6)

Says $599.99 USD here - AbeCollins 19:33:20 04/26/16 (5)

Amazon - Sordidman 20:47:46 04/26/16 (4)

RE: Amazon - AbeCollins 08:53:11 04/27/16 (3)

RE: Amazon - SBGK 11:01:48 04/27/16 (2)

RE: Amazon - AbeCollins 11:19:10 04/27/16 (1)

RE: Amazon - SBGK 11:29:18 04/27/16 (0)

RE: A potential new "game-changer" - Roseval 12:40:35 04/26/16 (1)

RE: A potential new "game-changer" - Sordidman 13:37:06 04/26/16 (0)

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RE: Yes, you posted one example - beppe61 05:53:58 04/28/16 (1)

I don't think that the Extron is what you want - Sordidman 06:55:30 04/28/16 (0)

RE: Yes, you posted one example

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