In Reply to: RE: An insolent provocation .... if a usb dac is very well design (and built) the pc quality should not matter posted by beppe61 on December 10, 2014 at 05:49:17:
Hi,
> You say " isolated USB is usually rare " i say ... why ?
Because it represents drastic engineering challenges that so far have not been overcome in a manner and fashion that easy to implement, never mind cost.
> Is it really that difficult ?
If someone brings out a suitable Isolator Chip that works at High Speed USB2 rates (480MBPS), no, until then it is trivial if all you need is 12MBPS, or should be. If using 12MBPS the maximum standard sample rate supported is 96kHz - 2-Channel.
> When i read of people who use usb power supply and say that
> there is a big improvement i wonder who has designed the usb
> dac ... he knows what he is doing or what ?
Probably yes, he does know what he does.
> That should not happen at all.
> If you see my point.
I do not. Particularly.
If you are willing to spend unlimited amounts of money you can of course demand the kind of things you suggest. In a cost limited application, it is a different story.
Thor
At 20 bits, you are on the verge of dynamic range covering fly-farts-at-20-feet to intolerable pain. Really, what more could we need?
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- RE: An insolent provocation .... if a usb dac is very well design (and built) the pc quality should not matter - Thorsten 12:05:24 12/10/14 (17)
- RE: An insolent provocation .... if a usb dac is very well design (and built) the pc quality should not matter - beppe61 23:11:13 12/10/14 (2)
- RE: An insolent provocation .... if a usb dac is very well design (and built) the pc quality should not matter - Thorsten 00:12:12 12/11/14 (1)
- RE: An insolent provocation .... if a usb dac is very well design (and built) the pc quality should not matter - beppe61 03:00:57 12/11/14 (0)
- RE: An insolent provocation .... if a usb dac is very well design (and built) the pc quality should not matter - Tony Lauck 14:00:04 12/10/14 (13)
- Correct - audioengr 11:06:33 12/13/14 (0)
- RE: An insolent provocation .... if a usb dac is very well design (and built) the pc quality should not matter - Thorsten 00:18:01 12/11/14 (11)
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- RE: An insolent provocation .... if a usb dac is very well design (and built) the pc quality should not matter - Thorsten 22:39:21 12/13/14 (1)
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