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In Reply to: no evidence that the two versions should sound the same posted by fmak on April 16, 2014 at 00:49:51:
There is some confusion. I believe we are in agreement as to the substance, namely how the different versions compare.
I believe the different versions sound different. I believe this on the basis of the listening tests that have been reported. Of course it could be that these were mistaken and if there were evidence that the two versions had identical content (object code) then I would have withheld my opinion, as there could be other explanations for why the different versions sounded different. However, Scrith's "evidence" (nearly identical source code) is quite incomplete for the reasons I explained. If he wants to look at details of the object code and how it is laid out in memory he is free to do so, and he might learn something. But until he does, I will pay no attention to Scrith's arguments. I will go with the listening reports, which are probably correct.
What this case illustrates is just how hard it is to understand computer audio. This supports my argument that we will never get consistently good sound by tweaking software. This approach is poor systems engineering, albeit expedient in individual cases. It has been well known since I worked with hybrid (analog plus digital) computers back in 1961 that one needs to have a strict barrier between the digital and the analog worlds for best results. This is primarily a matter of hardware engineering, not software engineering.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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Follow Ups
- RE: no evidence that the two versions should sound the same - Tony Lauck 11:17:34 04/16/14 (7)
- RE: no evidence that the two versions should sound the same - Bob_C 13:30:24 04/17/14 (4)
- RE: no evidence that the two versions should sound the same - Tony Lauck 13:51:00 04/17/14 (3)
- RE: no evidence that the two versions should sound the same - Bob_C 14:09:14 04/17/14 (2)
- RE: no evidence that the two versions should sound the same - Tony Lauck 17:18:48 04/17/14 (1)
- RE: no evidence that the two versions should sound the same - Bob_C 17:27:17 04/17/14 (0)
- This supports my argument that we will never get consistently good sound by tweaking software - fmak 05:58:26 04/17/14 (1)
- Then why do you think the programmer can do it? - Goober58 08:44:28 04/17/14 (0)
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