Please, allow me to disagree

Posted by steppe (A) on April 29, 2012 at 13:47:35

In Reply to: RE: The beans have been spilled! posted by Tony Lauck on April 29, 2012 at 10:00:50:

Hello, everybody.
First, Thanks to the OP for this excercise. It is very important to do such things in order to understand, where we are on the hi-fi scale, where the general quality of reproductioon is concerned.
Next, when I was performing this AB, I was using a cue, I have created with just these two files, going on and on. I started in the early morning with very good power and a fresh head. In the middle of the test my monitor - an old crt display - I used for cmp, went dead, and though I have a working machine close by, I was too lazy to re-plug another monitor to the cmp machine, so the test went almost blind. I marked the files in my mind as Good and Bad, went to make coffee, take a shower, all sorts of things, so I could not sometimes hear and follow exactly what file was playing after a time. I was using 6" two-way very cheap powered monitors, if it matters, but every time, when I came back, after a cycle of playback has been completed, I heard the difference, and pretty soon could tell, Yeah, this one is the good fellow. When I finally, switched on another monitor, I WAS RIGHT.
So this only means that after some training our mind LEARNS to discriminate between very subtle things. Also, it shows well, that our cmp (tweaked one) is so resolving, as to unveil such differences easily.
Serge.
I agree that the memory thing can be misleading and tends to fog the things, but not to a degree, when You can't discern the obvious, when You try to be really attentive and place sonic "hooks" in Your mind on what to pay attention to next time.
Also, as somebody, who spent a LOT of time with graphics, I know about different dithering algorythms and how discernible they can get, especially in grayscale to monochrome conversion, so technically, there is nothing wrong with this test, especially as I think, our ears are LESS forgiving than our eyes.

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Topic - Would you please participate to this listening test? - Bibo01 17:20:37 04/27/12 (24)

The beans have been spilled! - Bibo01 21:10:33 04/28/12 (12)

RE: The beans have been spilled! - Tony Lauck 10:00:50 04/29/12 (11)

RE: The beans have been spilled! - Bibo01 16:28:03 04/29/12 (8)

Link for the above - Bibo01 17:22:26 04/29/12 (6)

RE: Link for the above - Tony Lauck 11:21:02 04/30/12 (5)

RE: Link for the above - Bibo01 00:59:19 05/10/12 (4)

Null Test Differences (NTD) are problematic - Tony Lauck 08:40:43 05/10/12 (3)

RE: Null Test Differences (NTD) are problematic - Bibo01 15:15:42 05/10/12 (2)

RE: Null Test Differences (NTD) are problematic - Tony Lauck 15:28:30 05/10/12 (1)

RE: Null Test Differences (NTD) are problematic - Bibo01 15:39:58 05/10/12 (0)

RE: The beans have been spilled! - Tony Lauck 17:15:52 04/29/12 (0)

Please, allow me to disagree - steppe 13:47:35 04/29/12 (1)

RE: Please, allow me to disagree - Tony Lauck 16:28:33 04/29/12 (0)

The result - steppe 21:04:30 04/27/12 (10)

RE: The result - Bibo01 23:53:24 04/27/12 (9)

Mahler 6 - Tony Lauck 07:33:46 04/28/12 (8)

RE: Mahler 6 - Bibo01 16:30:48 04/28/12 (1)

RE: Mahler 6 - Tony Lauck 17:07:41 04/28/12 (0)

RE: Mahler 6 - fmak 08:30:58 04/28/12 (5)

RE: Mahler 6 - Tony Lauck 08:48:59 04/28/12 (4)

RE: Mahler 6 - fmak 10:39:01 04/28/12 (2)

Are you going by the sample. . . - Chris from Lafayette 17:07:01 04/28/12 (1)

RE: Are you going by the sample. . . No - fmak 21:49:31 04/28/12 (0)

RE: Mahler 6 - Mercman 08:58:12 04/28/12 (0)

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Please, allow me to disagree - steppe 13:47:35 04/29/12 (1)

RE: Please, allow me to disagree - Tony Lauck 16:28:33 04/29/12 (0)

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