In Reply to: How about an actual experiment? posted by cnpope on August 26, 2011 at 09:17:45:
Because of the nature of the circlotron circuit, no matter where you hook up the scope you will be seeing the combined waveform from each bank of the push pull. The whole circle is part of a "feedback loop" if you will.Even though each bank's waveform is asymmetrical the combined waveform looks fine. This is normal for Class A/B amplifiers and for Class B amplifiers as well.
To look at the waveform of one bank will not be easy and to look at the waveform at a given power level will be harder.
If you pull one bank of tubes you will be able to see the asymmetrical waveform but you will have changed everything in terms of the feedback and loading.
I have no problem at all understanding that a tube idling at 60ma. can only reduce it's current by 60ma.
If the tube is driven to a current more than twice it's idle current then the lower waveform will be truncated.
If the current is increased to 200ma, that 1/2 current waveform will be of a size that represents 140ma. and will be much larger than the following 1/2 current waveform that can only be a 60ma. current waveform, at best.
200ma. per triode, 8 triodes per bank, one bank is cutoff or close to it.
(however much current is flowing in the other bank will subtract from the output power)200ma times 8 is 1.6 amps peak.
1.6 amps peak across an 8 ohms speaker is 10.24 watts RMS.
With do respect to all parties, I don't really need to do an actual experiment.
Tre'
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Edits: 08/26/11
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- RE: How about an actual experiment? - Tre' 11:04:18 08/26/11 (27)
- RE: How about an actual experiment? - cnpope 12:04:23 08/26/11 (26)
- RE: How about an actual experiment? - Ralph 11:53:30 08/30/11 (0)
- RE: How about an actual experiment? - Tre' 12:28:17 08/26/11 (24)
- RE: How about an actual experiment? - Jack Williams 15:40:04 08/26/11 (23)
- RE: How about an actual experiment? - Tre' 17:46:24 08/26/11 (22)
- "Ask Kurt Strain about this issue." - kurt s 23:43:12 08/29/11 (7)
- Thanks, Kurt... - Lew 13:29:50 08/30/11 (6)
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- RE: Paul Speltz did the wrong thing - Lew 07:08:04 08/31/11 (4)
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- I see that really Paul almost did the wrong thing. - kurt s 20:02:04 08/31/11 (2)
- Output Z of cathode follower... - Lew 20:51:46 09/01/11 (1)
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- RE: this FAQ has been on the website for over a year. - Ralph 12:32:56 08/30/11 (2)
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