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In Reply to: RE: You bring up an interesting philosophical conundrum posted by unclestu52 on March 26, 2008 at 20:59:33
>>> "It seems that you are advocating a 'destruction', if you will, of such dualities, rather than understanding of them and living with them in daily life. To eliminate all polarities means no music, really, as sound is a compression and a rarefaction, again dual polarities." <<<
Where on earth have I ever advocated a destruction of such dualities as polarity ? Our approach (Peter's and mine) has ALWAYS been to try to understand them and live with them in daily life !!!!
Why is it that some people can understand a particular concept and others cannot ? I only wish I knew which particular technique one could use to enable people to understand. I would even do public handstands and somersaults if I thought that particular technique would be successful !!!!!!
To begin to understand, the place you have to start is the observation. Both you and I, unclestu, have some agreement in the area of observation because we both know the many things which can affect the 'sound'. In that particular respect, the problem you and I have is with others who do NOT know, who have NOT observed what we have observed and who say that we must have imagined it !!
Where I part company with you is that you want everything you have observed (which changed the sound) to have changed the audio signal - or the acoustics - or the static - or !! Whereas our observations and subsequent investigations show that there is something else going on - which is not affecting the audio signal or the acoustics or the static but which affects the 'sound' !!
In THIS particular discussion you are seeing a choice of polarity or no polarity - and seeing it from a purely technical point of view i.e either you have it or you eliminate it - in which case, as you say, there would be no music !! What you are NOT seeing is the concept that you can have the polarity, realise what must be going on, realise that it is the human being who is doing the reacting to the polarity and take steps to alter what it is that the human being is reacting to WITHOUT ALTERING THE ACTUAL POLARITY !! You are seeing things as black or white - there are no shades of grey. There is, in your narrow view, either darkness or a blinding light (if you don't want the blinding light, then all you have left is darkness). In your viewpoint there are no sunglasses, no varying shades. Hypothetically (in order to make a point) in your viewpoint there are no techniques which Nature uses to allow you walk from darkness directly into strong sunlight without screwing your eyes up completely.
Carrying on with that (sight) description. We see the modern environment as creating harsh, blinding light which we (human beings) are reacting to by screwing up our eyes (which is a technique which Nature - through evolution - developed to solve a problem when the eyes first developed) - which then means that we cannot resolve (see clearly) everything which is in our environment. In order for us to see (resolve more clearly) what is in the environment then you use techniques such as polarised lenses to filter out the glare !! The harsh, blinding light is STILL there, in the environment, but you - the human being - with such as polarised lenses - can resolve (see clearly) far more of what is in (and has been in) the environment all the time !!
Neither the darkness or the harsh, blinding light, in the environment, have been ALTERED.
I just don't know any other way to get you to at least consider a different concept than the concept you have - i.e that 'it must be affecting the audio signal, or it must be affecting the acoustics, or it must be affecting static, or' !! All I know is that something has to happen to you first - you have to be stopped dead in your tracks - you have to experience the sound changing where you cannot explain the changes from within conventional technical electronic or acoustic theories. THEN you will have to look for explanations to explain your observations !! We are now back to square one - the observations !!!
Regards,
May Belt.
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