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DAC chips - georgelouis 16:04:13 08/18/07 (108)
- Don't matter as long as you use a test disk with a phase check track. * - mr grits 18:50:12 08/19/07 (2)
  - Do you mean "polarity"? It's an important distinction. So if you do... - clarkjohnsen 08:18:20 08/20/07 (1)
    - Do you have - unclestu52 12:38:46 08/20/07 (0)
- Hey, how about we start counting minutes until "One Trick Pony" shows up? - Enophile 00:19:38 08/19/07 (5)
  - Let me guess... - Wellfed 00:23:16 08/23/07 (0)
  - Hey, stop pickin' on Clarke... - rlw 16:45:08 08/20/07 (3)
    - He can't mean me, Mr. Wainwright, because... - clarkjohnsen 08:48:12 08/21/07 (2)
      - You managed to leave 'absolute polarity' off your list (!txt) - pburant 09:22:25 08/21/07 (1)
        
        absolut polarity - late 05:41:53 08/25/07 (0)
- RE: DAC chips - Ric Schultz 16:47:03 08/18/07 (96)
  - My question just below, seems to be one that nobody cares to answer! - clarkjohnsen 08:42:08 08/21/07 (84)
    - Your question has been answered over and over - Ted Smith 11:28:52 09/05/07 (55)
      - "DAC chips don't make any assumptions about polarity." Who said they did? - clarkjohnsen 12:05:16 09/05/07 (54)
        
        "Does your car turn left or right when you turn the steering wheel clockwise?" - Ted Smith 12:12:42 09/05/07 (53)
        
        "Perhaps you didn't notice the post to which you were responding, or perhaps you didn't read it." LOL! - clarkjohnsen 12:24:02 09/05/07 (52)
        
        ANSI/EIA 560-1990 - unclestu52 15:30:42 09/05/07 (48)
        
        RE: ANSI/EIA 560-1990 - geoffkait 06:27:06 09/06/07 (47)
        
        "The Standard you reference is irrelevent." Quite right. Which is why it makes no sense... - clarkjohnsen 13:32:47 09/06/07 (29)
        
        May Well?? - rick_m 09:01:14 09/07/07 (27)
        
        " Please oh polarity guru, clear the air, we wait with bated breath." I see... - clarkjohnsen 09:09:35 09/07/07 (26)
        
        And I thought you wanted to teach. - rick_m 10:49:29 09/07/07 (24)
        
        "I was expecting you to help." And why do you suppose I've spent these hours with you... - clarkjohnsen 10:57:53 09/07/07 (23)
        
        Hey, my one liners to you are no worse than yours to myself and others. How does it feel? [nt] - Ted Smith 13:29:48 09/07/07 (2)
        
        Great, not to have to read another long, rather rude, and mistaken essay! (Since you asked...) nt - clarkjohnsen 11:00:44 09/08/07 (1)
        
        Same to ya buddy :) [nt] - Ted Smith 11:05:15 09/08/07 (0)
        
        RE: And guess what? - rick_m 12:28:35 09/07/07 (19)
        
        None of the above. - clarkjohnsen 10:40:48 09/08/07 (18)
        
        Sweet! I shall await the revelation with bated breath. -txt - rick_m 12:43:22 09/08/07 (17)
        
        I just told you the best part; have you no reaction? nt - clarkjohnsen 10:44:43 09/09/07 (16)
        
        RE: I just told you the best part; have you no reaction? nt - rick_m 13:00:37 09/09/07 (14)
        
        "My reaction to that is, which is right?" [Sigh] - clarkjohnsen 12:18:17 09/15/07 (13)
        
        Oh, right! - rick_m 14:41:10 09/15/07 (12)
        
        Indeed, but I'm looking for a way to make it more consistent. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:01:22 09/16/07 (7)
        
        Where are you looking? - rick_m 15:13:59 09/16/07 (6)
        
        Which standard should be THE standard? LOL! - clarkjohnsen 08:40:26 09/17/07 (5)
        
        LOL!!!!! - unclestu52 11:06:56 09/17/07 (0)
        
        RE: Which standard should be THE standard? LOL! - rick_m 09:36:48 09/17/07 (3)
        
        But what if they *like* rap? Then: Chinese and Japanese music? nt - clarkjohnsen 09:40:36 09/17/07 (2)
        
        Then we'd need to take it to the limit... - rick_m 10:02:28 09/17/07 (1)
        
        He's a heck of a lot easier listen than that Oriental droning. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:34:10 09/18/07 (0)
        
        That's where Clark's logic falls apart - unclestu52 15:16:54 09/15/07 (3)
        
        RE: That's where Clark's logic falls apart - rick_m 17:36:02 09/15/07 (2)
        
        RE: That's where Clark's logic falls apart - unclestu52 12:20:58 09/16/07 (1)
        
        RE: That's where Clark's logic falls apart - rick_m 15:03:26 09/16/07 (0)
        
        You answered only half - unclestu52 12:43:32 09/09/07 (0)
        
        Actually we hoped that you wanted to learn, but alas... [nt] - Ted Smith 10:21:47 09/07/07 (0)
        
        Wow! - unclestu52 14:51:55 09/06/07 (0)
        
        Standards - unclestu52 11:29:57 09/06/07 (16)
        
        RE: Standards - rick_m 12:26:22 09/06/07 (15)
        
        I'm game - unclestu52 14:36:55 09/06/07 (0)
        
        "As Clark would be quick to point out, may ALL be wrong." No, not quite. - clarkjohnsen 13:44:04 09/06/07 (13)
        
        You keep putting words in people's mouths - Ted Smith 15:42:06 09/06/07 (7)
        
        "Or you stand behind such flummery as..." - clarkjohnsen 09:05:34 09/07/07 (6)
        
        Maintaining polarity isn't a subjective question. - Ted Smith 10:19:15 09/07/07 (5)
        
        "All I have to do is use a scope with a well defined input." Unfortunately... - clarkjohnsen 10:48:20 09/07/07 (4)
        
        As I've mentioned over and over - Ted Smith 13:20:52 09/07/07 (2)
        
        "A CD with the correct polarity." No such animal! - clarkjohnsen 10:59:29 09/08/07 (1)
        
        "A CD with the correct polarity." Sure there is, the one that gets the result you want - Ted Smith 11:26:31 09/08/07 (0)
        
        The much maligned - unclestu52 11:27:37 09/07/07 (0)
        
        RE: "As Clark would be quick to point out, may ALL be wrong." No, not quite. - rick_m 14:25:50 09/06/07 (4)
        
        'I want my system to meet spec and blow when the data says to." Aha! - clarkjohnsen 08:36:44 09/07/07 (3)
        
        RE: 'I want my system to meet spec and blow when the data says to." Aha! - rick_m 09:59:55 09/07/07 (2)
        
        "making sure that the nominal polarity of my system is correct." [Sigh] And just how... - clarkjohnsen 10:31:14 09/07/07 (1)
        
        AES 26 - unclestu52 11:43:34 09/07/07 (0)
        
        Pardon me, if you indeed read it you didn't understand it [nt] - Ted Smith 15:21:21 09/05/07 (2)
        
        "It is industry standard to have non-inverted output," he wrote... - clarkjohnsen 10:16:28 09/06/07 (1)
        
        You're right - unclestu52 11:34:51 09/06/07 (0)
    - .wav editor. - ontrack2@gmail.com 02:23:12 09/03/07 (17)
      - Is it able to "monitor" polarity? nt - clarkjohnsen 09:13:18 09/03/07 (16)
        
        RE: Is it able to "monitor" polarity? nt - ontrack2@gmail.com 18:27:07 09/03/07 (15)
        
        "How else would I have stated that it could be used?" That's easy! - clarkjohnsen 09:47:15 09/04/07 (14)
        
        Subframe=division of frame X10/100/1000 - ontrack2@gmail.com 18:28:10 09/04/07 (7)
        
        Appreciate the offer, but the pitch won't work without... - clarkjohnsen 09:21:01 09/05/07 (6)
        
        So close..yet, so far away (sigh) - ontrack2@gmail.com 10:20:35 09/05/07 (5)
        
        You're not going to close the sale when you behave so rudely. - clarkjohnsen 10:35:43 09/05/07 (4)
        
        RE: You're not going to close the sale when you behave so rudely. - ontrack2@gmail.com 12:52:37 09/05/07 (3)
        
        "Revisit your education and... don't come knocking around here unless you have a purchase order." LOL! - clarkjohnsen 13:04:56 09/05/07 (2)
        
        RE: "Revisit your education and... don't come knocking around here unless you have a purchase order." LOL! - ontrack2@gmail.com 17:00:33 09/05/07 (1)
        
        Money down the drain, money down the drain. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:02:54 09/07/07 (0)
        
        No DAC, preamp, amp, speaker or wire does what you are implying. - Ted Smith 10:01:13 09/04/07 (5)
        
        "Is this the whole root of your weird posts and questions about polarity?" Down, boy. - clarkjohnsen 11:20:48 09/04/07 (4)
        
        RE: "Is this the whole root of your weird posts and questions about polarity?" Down, boy. - unclestu52 11:31:37 09/05/07 (0)
        
        Have it your way, I'm just trying to help you, but ... [nt] - Ted Smith 12:15:01 09/04/07 (2)
        
        No, I was helping you. I answered your (implied) question! And the response? nt - clarkjohnsen 12:30:35 09/04/07 (1)
        
        Right, "None so blind as those who will not see..." [nt] - Ted Smith 14:20:06 09/04/07 (0)
    - I guess as long as you can switch absolute polarity, it doesn't matter. - Enophile 14:19:25 08/21/07 (9)
      - Actually since Clark rejects every (a long and boring tale) - unclestu52 15:58:21 08/21/07 (8)
        
        RE: Actually since Clark rejects every (a long and boring tale) - Ted Smith 17:09:43 08/21/07 (7)
        
        "Clark lies." - clarkjohnsen 08:47:54 08/22/07 (4)
        
        Clark lies. - unclestu52 21:02:05 08/24/07 (0)
        
        Charges, charges - unclestu52 13:02:44 08/22/07 (1)
        
        Irony - Cleantimestream 21:59:36 09/02/07 (0)
        
        Not "badmouthing correct absolute polarity," just saying there is more to Hi Fi that that alone. - Enophile 10:02:50 08/22/07 (0)
        
        Wow! - unclestu52 19:51:59 08/21/07 (1)
        
        Great analogy, sir. - Enophile 22:35:27 08/21/07 (0)
  - How do you define the "input" polarity of a CD player? - clarkjohnsen 08:20:11 08/20/07 (1)
    - ANSI/EIA 560-1990 - unclestu52 12:26:13 08/21/07 (0)
  - RE: DAC chips - georgelouis 17:03:02 08/18/07 (1)
    - Maybe - unclestu52 19:07:12 08/18/07 (0)
  - RE: DAC chips - unclestu52 16:52:54 08/18/07 (6)
    - RE: DAC chips - Keny 01:06:02 08/19/07 (5)
      - Well..... - unclestu52 02:24:34 08/19/07 (4)
        
        RE: Well..... - Keny 10:32:44 08/19/07 (3)
        
        RE: Well..... - unclestu52 13:56:38 08/19/07 (2)
        
        RE: Well..... - Keny 15:57:04 08/19/07 (1)
        
        You are correct - unclestu52 17:08:19 08/19/07 (0)
- Be warned folks, its still another idoitic Polarity post. [nt] - Steve Cortez 16:18:24 08/18/07 (1)
  - RE: Be warned folks, its still another idoitic Polarity post. [nt] - georgelouis 16:44:08 08/18/07 (0)
The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" Lectures - Posy Rorer 20:07:43 08/13/07 (170)
- RE: The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" - krabapple 12:10:14 08/27/07 (1)
  - RE: The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" - Posy Rorer 09:15:28 08/29/07 (0)
- Why did you title the post the way you did?? - Robert Hamel 06:58:52 08/21/07 (5)
  - Good Question. - Posy Rorer 15:17:15 08/21/07 (4)
    - Everyone is where they're at, and that's just the way it is, unfortunately ... - fas 22:10:39 08/22/07 (3)
      - RE: Everyone is where they're at, and that's just the way it is, unfortunately ... - Posy Rorer 11:03:41 08/23/07 (2)
        
        The mind's a tricky thing. - fas 06:19:51 08/24/07 (1)
        
        RE: The mind's a tricky thing. - Posy Rorer 07:57:07 08/25/07 (0)
- RE: The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" - fas 22:09:24 08/15/07 (8)
  - And why NOT level match? - Semper Fidelity 18:20:46 08/19/07 (1)
    - RE: And why NOT level match? - Posy Rorer 12:54:47 08/20/07 (0)
  - Re: EVERYTHING MATTERS - Posy Rorer 22:12:57 08/16/07 (4)
    - RE: Re: EVERYTHING MATTERS - fas 04:08:12 08/18/07 (2)
      - RE: Waiting for the day... - mls-stl 06:28:40 08/18/07 (1)
        
        Ah, organic sound... - rick_m 12:58:59 08/18/07 (0)
    - "Test instruments do not have a 'brain'." No heart, either. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:24:20 08/17/07 (0)
  - "with audio, EVERYTHING matters." Tell that to the AES, fella! - clarkjohnsen 10:27:22 08/16/07 (0)
- Listening test d/l: Tweaking-at-a-distance - Posy Rorer 17:22:52 08/15/07 (1)
  - Thanks, Posy, I just snagged 'em... - rlw 13:11:07 08/20/07 (0)
- I read your silly post. I'm pissed. You win. - Lambda 13:21:43 08/15/07 (2)
  - I'm sorry. My post wasn't silly and wasn't intended to piss you off. - Posy Rorer 17:25:41 08/15/07 (1)
    - You gave your dirty little secret away.... - Lambda 05:07:14 08/16/07 (0)
- Boy, Posey, did you get my bungies in s bunch... - gymwear5@hotmail.com 11:58:49 08/15/07 (7)
  - Sorry. I guess it was good I only uploaded the expurgated version, huh? - Posy Rorer 15:54:12 08/15/07 (6)
    - "Knowing how lazy most so-called or self-professed 'audiophiles' are..." But not too lazy to... - clarkjohnsen 10:31:38 08/16/07 (1)
      - RE: "Knowing how lazy most so-called or self-professed 'audiophiles' are..." But not too lazy to... - morricab 00:35:06 08/21/07 (0)
    - RE: Sorry. I guess it was good I only uploaded the expurgated version, huh? - Pat D 17:12:21 08/15/07 (3)
      - More hit n' runs, Pat? Where's Lord JJ when you need him? - Posy Rorer 17:38:24 08/15/07 (2)
        
        RE: More hit n' runs, Pat? Where's Lord JJ when you need him? - morricab 04:12:29 08/20/07 (1)
        
        RE: More hit n' runs, Pat? Where's Lord JJ when you need him? - Posy Rorer 08:45:56 08/20/07 (0)
- Enough is enough, guys! - cheap-Jack 07:40:09 08/15/07 (0)
- RE: The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" Lectures - morricab 02:48:06 08/15/07 (24)
  - RE: The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" Lectures - Posy Rorer 12:36:47 08/15/07 (23)
    - RE: The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" Lectures - morricab 07:29:17 08/20/07 (8)
      - RE: The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" Lectures - Posy Rorer 19:28:36 08/20/07 (7)
        
        RE: The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" Lectures - morricab 01:12:26 08/21/07 (6)
        
        Maury Cab & His Amazing 20-Year Placebo - Posy Rorer 20:45:22 08/22/07 (5)
        
        RE: Maury Cab & His Amazing 20-Year Placebo - morricab 01:53:29 08/23/07 (4)
        
        Morricab: King Of The Fake Strawman Alerts. - Posy Rorer 14:51:01 08/23/07 (3)
        
        Sorry to intrude on this piece of fireworks, but ... - fas 16:48:19 08/24/07 (1)
        
        RE: Sorry to intrude on this piece of fireworks, but ... - Posy Rorer 07:58:00 08/25/07 (0)
        
        RE: Morricab: King Of The Fake Strawman Alerts. - morricab 02:08:28 08/24/07 (0)
    - Your (and my) antagonist likes to shoot loaded words, he finds them *powerful*. - clarkjohnsen 10:43:55 08/16/07 (11)
      - RE: Your (and my) antagonist likes to shoot loaded words, he finds them *powerful*. - morricab 02:56:00 08/17/07 (10)
        
        RE: Your (and my) antagonist likes to shoot loaded words, he finds them *powerful*. - Posy Rorer 08:53:13 08/17/07 (9)
        
        RE: Your (and my) antagonist likes to shoot loaded words, he finds them *powerful*. - morricab 02:59:04 08/20/07 (6)
        
        RE: Your (and my) antagonist likes to shoot loaded words, he finds them *powerful*. - Posy Rorer 16:06:51 08/20/07 (5)
        
        RE: Your (and my) antagonist likes to shoot loaded words, he finds them *powerful*. - morricab 01:25:45 08/21/07 (4)
        
        RE: Your (and my) antagonist likes to shoot loaded words, he finds them *powerful*. - Posy Rorer 21:34:40 08/22/07 (3)
        
        RE: Your (and my) antagonist likes to shoot loaded words, he finds them *powerful*. - morricab 01:44:43 08/23/07 (2)
        
        The double-edged sword of psychological self-delusion. - Posy Rorer 10:15:51 08/23/07 (1)
        
        RE: The double-edged sword of psychological self-delusion. - morricab 02:14:18 08/24/07 (0)
        
        "You're why I don't miss Jim Austin." Oh, BURN! - clarkjohnsen 08:58:16 08/17/07 (1)
        
        RE: "You're why I don't miss Jim Austin." Oh, BURN! - morricab 04:09:28 08/20/07 (0)
    - RE: The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" Lectures - morricab 02:24:55 08/16/07 (1)
      - RE: The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. Part 1 of "The Enlightened Audiophile" Lectures - Posy Rorer 12:34:20 08/16/07 (0)
- "The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. " A myth , huh? - soulfood 19:55:28 08/14/07 (10)
  - RE: ""The Myth of (the importance of) Level-Matching in Listening Tests. " A myth , huh?" Yup. A myth. - Posy Rorer 23:11:20 08/14/07 (9)
    - False supposition or kicking silly up a notch. - soulfood 04:38:55 08/15/07 (8)
      - So it looks like we both agree that SPL metering is silly and unnecessary. Finally, someone who gets it! - Posy Rorer 08:11:32 08/15/07 (7)
        
        "We're the only two here who can?!" Noop. Maybe you missed my comment below: - clarkjohnsen 09:59:15 08/15/07 (1)
        
        Yup, I missed 'em. - Posy Rorer 19:31:22 08/15/07 (0)
        
        A SPL meter is a test instrument, casual listening is entertainment. - soulfood 09:11:40 08/15/07 (4)
        
        Also, don't forget that a fork is a utensil, and a PS2 is a video game. - Posy Rorer 22:06:47 08/15/07 (3)
        
        "All audio tests are subjective, including DBTs." This stands between us. - soulfood 08:24:25 08/16/07 (2)
        
        Not a fan of facts, eh? - Posy Rorer 10:16:45 08/16/07 (1)
        
        Of course, your math teacher has my empathy. (nt) - soulfood 10:54:04 08/16/07 (0)
- BS! What is "known" has by definition been proven.... - Ugly 13:53:32 08/14/07 (2)
  - Ask yourself why you feel so threatened by my experiences. - Posy Rorer 18:40:23 08/14/07 (1)
    - Always the low road with you, eh Posy? - Ugly 20:46:51 08/14/07 (0)
- I disagree... - mkuller 11:57:52 08/14/07 (5)
  - I agree (with your experiences). - Posy Rorer 17:52:37 08/14/07 (3)
    - What I failed to mention... - mkuller 10:29:19 08/17/07 (0)
    - Reminds me of... - mkuller 11:32:09 08/15/07 (1)
      - RE: Reminds me of... - Posy Rorer 18:01:48 08/15/07 (0)
  - RE: I disagree... - thetubeguy1954 14:32:21 08/14/07 (0)
- Propeller Head Plaza: Non-technical and unscientific discussion of amps, cables and other psychiatric woes nt - AJinFLA 11:03:02 08/14/07 (7)
  - RE: You are back with bang eh... - theaudiohobby 13:32:26 08/14/07 (5)
    - RE: You are back with bang eh... - AJinFLA 12:07:19 08/15/07 (0)
    - RE: You are back with bang eh... - andy_c 15:59:18 08/14/07 (3)
      - Hey, if you want to get off, let the conductor know - kerr 16:30:45 08/14/07 (2)
        
        RE: Hey, if you want to get off, let the conductor know - andy_c 18:31:19 08/14/07 (1)
        
        RE: Hey, if you want to get off, let the conductor know - kerr 04:51:50 08/15/07 (0)
  - Kind of weak - not even a question whether original poster owns a stereo? N/T - carcass93 13:05:54 08/14/07 (0)
- Cannot Totally Agree with This One....... - Todd Krieger 11:01:59 08/14/07 (2)
  - RE: Cannot Totally Agree with This One....... - Posy Rorer 17:15:38 08/14/07 (0)
  - The best reason to level-match - kerr 11:24:27 08/14/07 (0)
- Anything other than knee-jerk reactions? - Posy Rorer 10:28:05 08/14/07 (29)
  - Posy, lighten up, dude... - rlw 12:23:49 08/14/07 (26)
    - Let's get real - the problem is that - geoffkait 06:12:50 08/15/07 (25)
      - 3 strikes and you're out! - rlw 09:38:56 08/15/07 (24)
        
        I love it when you feign indignation and outrage. LOL nt - geoffkait 10:35:05 08/15/07 (0)
        
        "The stuff you peddle doesn't do shit." Another lie. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:47:04 08/15/07 (22)
        
        Tell us all about YOUR system, Clarke... - rlw 10:05:03 08/15/07 (21)
        
        Well? Well? We're waiting. I answered your big question, and... and...? nt - clarkjohnsen 10:47:21 08/16/07 (0)
        
        While ordinarily one needn't respond to hostile posters... - clarkjohnsen 12:14:35 08/15/07 (19)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - geoffkait 03:08:13 08/16/07 (18)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - morricab 07:15:42 08/20/07 (15)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - geoffkait 10:51:50 08/20/07 (6)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - morricab 01:48:10 08/22/07 (5)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - geoffkait 05:07:57 08/22/07 (4)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - morricab 08:42:43 08/22/07 (3)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - geoffkait 09:08:58 08/22/07 (2)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - morricab 01:54:49 08/23/07 (1)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - geoffkait 03:07:53 08/23/07 (0)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - Posy Rorer 07:34:30 08/20/07 (7)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - morricab 09:01:29 08/20/07 (6)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - Posy Rorer 00:39:07 08/21/07 (5)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - morricab 01:54:18 08/22/07 (4)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - Posy Rorer 16:16:25 08/22/07 (3)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - morricab 01:58:44 08/23/07 (2)
        
        The morricab Crabwalk - Posy Rorer 09:09:19 08/23/07 (1)
        
        RE: The morricab Crabwalk - morricab 02:17:20 08/24/07 (0)
        
        RE: "Evidence from dozens of ears" - kerr 07:11:10 08/16/07 (1)
        
        "Audio is about reading and seeing." And there you have it! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:46:12 08/16/07 (0)
  - Yes, I am "an audiophile like you" but one with logics & sense. - cheap-Jack 12:05:31 08/14/07 (0)
  - Are you not "defensive" on the great "lecture" you gave us ? - cheap-Jack 11:07:15 08/14/07 (0)
- Hey, if you are happy, that's the bottom line, so why the attack on "level matchers?" - Enophile 09:48:17 08/14/07 (3)
  - Because I am challenging the idea of the importance of matching levels, that's why. - Posy Rorer 16:38:33 08/14/07 (2)
    - Posy, you are great. Please do not take disagreement as disparagement.... - Enophile 19:13:56 08/14/07 (1)
      - That's okay Eno, I didn't. - Posy Rorer 21:37:39 08/14/07 (0)
- Agreed, in general. One learns to listen through. In fact... - clarkjohnsen 09:48:02 08/14/07 (0)
- ZZZzzzzzzzz.. curtain lectures again..... (long..) - cheap-Jack 09:27:24 08/14/07 (0)
- No valid methodology, no data, no proof. - Pat D 07:29:13 08/14/07 (20)
  - What part of "audio isn't about "proving" things, it's about learning things" did you not understand, Pat? - Posy Rorer 18:04:45 08/14/07 (5)
    - RE: What part of "audio isn't about "proving" things, it's about learning things" did you not understand, Pat? - morricab 07:18:05 08/20/07 (1)
      - How to fool yourself into thinking you're not fooling yourself. - Posy Rorer 01:38:16 08/21/07 (0)
    - Still no valid methodology, no data, no proof. - Pat D 13:09:55 08/15/07 (1)
      - RE: Still no valid methodology, no data, no proof. - Posy Rorer 21:40:34 08/16/07 (0)
    - "audio isn't about 'proving' things, it's about learning things." And there you have it! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:36:28 08/15/07 (0)
  - No proof to whom? - mkuller 11:50:45 08/14/07 (1)
    - RE: No proof to whom? - Pat D 12:53:52 08/15/07 (0)
  - No doubt about it! - rlw 08:14:06 08/14/07 (4)
    - "Notice, no personal attacks." (20:07:43) "Considering the source..." (07:29:13) That lasted for12 hours. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:31:15 08/14/07 (2)
      - Correcting someone's boo-boos is "personal attacks" ???? - cheap-Jack 11:14:24 08/14/07 (0)
      - Merely a mild jest... - rlw 09:55:13 08/14/07 (0)
    - RE: No doubt about it! - Pat D 09:01:36 08/14/07 (0)
  - Oh, you probably mean no methodology approved by JJ, no? LOL - geoffkait 07:57:20 08/14/07 (6)
    - Geoff, anything of substance to add to the discussion? - rlw 14:21:36 08/14/07 (1)
      - Bucking for promotion from troll to stalker? nt - geoffkait 14:35:14 08/14/07 (0)
    - jj who? - Pat D 09:00:16 08/14/07 (3)
      - RE: jj who? - geoffkait 11:29:10 08/14/07 (2)
        
        Geoff, anything of substance to add to the discussion? - rlw 14:22:43 08/14/07 (1)
        
        I was hoping you were only a - geoffkait 14:36:52 08/14/07 (0)
- I'm guessing the perception of the sound quality is being affected... - rlw 06:41:53 08/14/07 (25)
  - RE: I'm guessing the perception of the sound quality is being affected... - Posy Rorer 11:32:55 08/14/07 (12)
    - Off topic - I would be careful about copying CD, giving it to a friend, and especially TELLING about it. N/T - carcass93 12:57:34 08/14/07 (5)
      - He said he would copy "part of a tune"... - rlw 13:24:32 08/14/07 (4)
        
        It's purely technical, and I don't care anyway, but see quote inside: - carcass93 13:41:32 08/14/07 (3)
        
        Don't get too excited. You misunderstood what I meant by "original". - Posy Rorer 16:49:06 08/14/07 (2)
        
        Don't worry, sources of my excitement are pretty far removed from these pages. - carcass93 17:35:59 08/14/07 (1)
        
        RE: Don't worry, sources of my excitement are pretty far removed from these pages. - Posy Rorer 18:44:08 08/14/07 (0)
    - Count me in! - rlw 12:37:47 08/14/07 (1)
      - RE: Count me in! - Posy Rorer 17:28:23 08/15/07 (0)
    - Not true... - rlw 12:10:09 08/14/07 (3)
      - RE: Not true... - Posy Rorer 17:00:38 08/14/07 (2)
        
        I don't know why... - rlw 09:56:18 08/15/07 (1)
        
        RE: I don't know why... - Posy Rorer 19:07:45 08/15/07 (0)
  - Didn't you get the memo? We've already established that hearing and perception are the same thing! - geoffkait 07:35:44 08/14/07 (11)
    - What do you mean we, paleface? - rlw 08:11:47 08/14/07 (10)
      - A statement so true, it goes without saying. -nt - Posy Rorer 18:42:08 08/14/07 (0)
      - Still hung up on semantics, eh? Surprise, surprise. nt - geoffkait 10:50:44 08/14/07 (7)
        
        Geoff, anything of substance to add to the discussiion? - rlw 13:31:16 08/14/07 (6)
        
        Audio Associates grad speaks out! LOL - geoffkait 14:01:08 08/14/07 (1)
        
        Geoff, anything of substance to add to the discussion? - rlw 14:19:08 08/14/07 (0)
        
        Stroll on! - clifff 13:48:58 08/14/07 (3)
        
        Better brush up on your sarcasm; contact rlw for pointers. LOL - geoffkait 14:03:37 08/14/07 (2)
        
        Geoff, anything of substance to add to the discussion? - rlw 14:20:36 08/14/07 (0)
        
        I'm British. I can do sarcasm. that wasn't it. nt - clifff 14:09:57 08/14/07 (0)
      - Exactly! Aptly put. - Enophile 09:50:29 08/14/07 (0)
Has anyone elsed observed the following trends? - Len_ 13:25:28 08/15/07 (8)
- RE: Has anyone elsed observed the following trends? - Cbird 15:49:19 08/16/07 (2)
  - Try the feathers. Indeed. Try the feathers. - Posy Rorer 16:34:03 08/16/07 (1)
    - RE: Try the feathers. Indeed. Try the feathers. - Oldphrt 09:06:24 10/12/07 (0)
- RE: Has anyone elsed observed the following trends? - Posy Rorer 19:46:02 08/15/07 (0)
- Now just hold on there... - dave c 14:24:48 08/15/07 (2)
  - RE: Now just hold on there... - Len_ 15:10:34 08/15/07 (1)
    - Perhaps you are just noticing the virtues of experience :) - Ted Smith 12:21:35 08/16/07 (0)
- Yeah, now scram why don't you... - Wellfed 14:13:36 08/15/07 (0)
I keep trying to post here, but... - dave c 01:47:29 08/06/07 (4)
- Stay well clear of Prop Head! - kerr 05:58:15 08/06/07 (3)
  - how to prepare to post here - dave c 16:12:01 08/06/07 (2)
    - Hey, lay off Posy. I like him. - Enophile 10:33:46 08/09/07 (1)
      - I googles "Posy" and got... - dave c 23:14:34 08/09/07 (0)
Ping May or Posey - kerr 13:09:27 07/30/07 (8)
- Say, wasn't *she* John Lennon's mistress in the Yoko days?... nt - clarkjohnsen 09:36:37 08/01/07 (2)
  - Close! - kerr 10:29:10 08/01/07 (1)
    - Thanks... it was the authentic Chinese name order that caught my eye. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:48:05 08/01/07 (0)
- RE: Ping May or Posey - May Belt 09:07:59 07/31/07 (1)
  - Gosh, May! - kerr 10:23:20 07/31/07 (0)
- Let me step into the ring too. It may well be... - clarkjohnsen 08:29:48 07/31/07 (0)
- RE: Ping May or Posey - Posy Rorer 15:48:14 07/30/07 (1)
  - Some of the best "two bits" I've received. - kerr 19:26:04 07/30/07 (0)
Unclestu commenting on the subject of 'hand cream' for treating CDs. - May Belt 12:44:54 07/23/07 (2)
- RE: Unclestu commenting on the subject of 'hand cream' for treating CDs. - zanash 00:16:16 07/24/07 (0)
- Thank you - unclestu52 23:34:43 07/23/07 (0)
Hand Cream and static. - May Belt 12:43:07 07/23/07 (180)
- We all gotta get in the same room! - Enophile 18:26:56 07/31/07 (12)
  - "Would any of y'all refuse to break bread and/or toss back beverages with your doppelgangers?" - SF tech 15:41:34 08/01/07 (1)
    - This has the makings of an all time classic party. - Enophile 12:11:58 08/02/07 (0)
  - Count me in... - rlw 13:12:29 08/01/07 (1)
    - Don't forget to bring your, uh, you know... - geoffkait 14:35:19 08/01/07 (0)
  - You're the guys! - unclestu52 18:45:01 07/31/07 (7)
    - I think I wuz prolly one of the first... - geoffkait 12:21:15 08/01/07 (6)
      - You would be welcome to bring any "reversible" tweak you'd like...just so long as we don't lose our deposit! - Enophile 14:16:17 08/02/07 (5)
        
        By "reversible" do you mean like system enhancing fluids? :-) nt - geoffkait 15:22:56 08/02/07 (4)
        
        RE: By "reversible" do you mean like system enhancing fluids? :-) nt - May Belt 01:30:05 08/03/07 (3)
        
        Last year, we made two types. - Enophile 07:10:03 08/03/07 (2)
        
        Oh, mass loading. Why didn't you say so? nt - geoffkait 03:08:01 08/04/07 (0)
        
        Ah ha! So that would be a "Beltist" style tweak then... - rick_m 08:30:51 08/03/07 (0)
- RE: Hand Cream and static. - zanash 00:11:06 07/24/07 (120)
  - RE: Hand Cream and static. - May Belt 10:53:06 07/24/07 (2)
    - RE: Hand Cream and static. - zanash 23:12:53 07/24/07 (1)
      - Did you test this ? NT - Lowrider 06:58:19 09/17/07 (0)
  - RE: Hand Cream and static. - rick_m 09:34:26 07/24/07 (6)
    - RE: Hand Cream and static. - zanash 01:38:23 07/26/07 (0)
    - "...altering the mechanical damping of the disk." And more. - clarkjohnsen 09:27:16 07/25/07 (0)
    - I do believe - unclestu52 11:34:34 07/24/07 (3)
      - RE: I do believe - rick_m 12:27:36 07/24/07 (2)
        
        Yep - unclestu52 12:33:52 07/24/07 (1)
        
        In Microsoft I trust! - rick_m 12:58:40 07/24/07 (0)
  - RE: Hand Cream and static. - Posy Rorer 09:16:48 07/24/07 (109)
    - NOTE ALL: The two responses just below were simply intended to derail the discussion. - clarkjohnsen 09:22:15 07/25/07 (1)
      - STALKER ALERT!!! New thread policeman in town? - Enophile 09:57:38 07/25/07 (0)
    - The product names, "Cream Electret" and "Sol Electret" imply something via their use of the word "electret." - Enophile 11:16:52 07/24/07 (1)
      - RE: The product names, "Cream Electret" and "Sol Electret" imply something via their use of the word "electret." - Posy Rorer 12:19:54 07/25/07 (0)
    - Be aware though... - rlw 10:41:35 07/24/07 (11)
      - RE: Be aware though... - zanash 01:39:27 07/26/07 (0)
      - Now you're comparing me to a Nazi? Yeah, you're really convincing us you're not a troll. - Posy Rorer 13:39:31 07/25/07 (3)
        
        Not Hitler, you dolt, it's the Chermans, Tommy! - rlw 09:32:11 07/26/07 (0)
        
        Godwin's Law...excellent. - Enophile 14:59:37 07/25/07 (1)
        
        RE: Godwin's Law...excellent. - Posy Rorer 16:20:31 07/25/07 (0)
      - Once they get a foothold in your house you can never get rid of them - geoffkait 11:00:44 07/24/07 (5)
        
        You already used that line, Geoff... - rlw 11:15:37 07/24/07 (4)
        
        "Most of us" - geoffkait 11:26:51 07/24/07 (3)
        
        I'm not a baker... - rlw 11:35:50 07/24/07 (2)
        
        Not a pretty picture... - Wellfed 20:14:03 07/24/07 (0)
        
        Rlw, I have to admit you do exude a certain, uh, charm... - geoffkait 13:32:56 07/24/07 (0)
    - "Do the test, you'll have the answers." - pburant 10:03:05 07/24/07 (92)
      - RE: "Do the test, you'll have the answers." - Posy Rorer 13:17:05 07/25/07 (0)
      - "[Your] ideas are never accompanied by any validation of the ideas." Yep. Einstein wrote those papers... - clarkjohnsen 09:18:50 07/25/07 (90)
        
        He demonstrated the math - unclestu52 19:07:47 07/25/07 (89)
        
        Lemaitre also demonstrated the math. Einstein didn't believe him. -nt - Posy Rorer 20:28:49 07/25/07 (88)
        
        Notice the weasely shift from lack of "validation" to *well, he did the math.* LOL! - clarkjohnsen 08:41:58 07/26/07 (84)
        
        A dim wit and a weasel, that I am - unclestu52 13:35:17 07/26/07 (83)
        
        A mathematical model for the Beltist phenomenon, as requested. - Posy Rorer 14:34:13 07/26/07 (64)
        
        Our antagonist weaseled out again; that, coupled with David Aitkin's notable takedown of his illogic... - clarkjohnsen 08:14:54 07/30/07 (55)
        
        It is a sad time - unclestu52 12:42:11 07/30/07 (52)
        
        Posey's Doubly-Sad Mathematical Model & The Mars Lunar Lander - Posy Rorer 20:38:51 07/30/07 (50)
        
        "I'm not sure why he is [an antagonist] to you." - clarkjohnsen 08:23:23 07/31/07 (45)
        
        Hatfield vs. McCoy: The Polarity Years - Posy Rorer 11:15:12 07/31/07 (44)
        
        All basically true, except that "it can only be determined subjectively". - clarkjohnsen 09:35:01 08/01/07 (0)
        
        RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy: The Polarity Years - rick_m 20:11:20 07/31/07 (1)
        
        RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy: The Polarity Years - Posy Rorer 22:27:48 07/31/07 (0)
        
        RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy - unclestu52 13:49:35 07/31/07 (40)
        
        RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy - Posy Rorer 16:20:50 07/31/07 (39)
        
        RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy - unclestu52 18:30:32 07/31/07 (38)
        
        RE: I now understand the emphasis on amplitude measurements over time measurements - rick_m 19:56:03 07/31/07 (19)
        
        This very problem was fingered as a culprit in The Wood Effect (1988). - clarkjohnsen 10:14:16 08/01/07 (0)
        
        RE: I now understand the emphasis on amplitude measurements over time measurements - unclestu52 20:48:42 07/31/07 (17)
        
        RE: I now understand the emphasis on amplitude measurements over time measurements - rick_m 22:29:17 07/31/07 (16)
        
        Usually inverting the polarity - unclestu52 01:36:44 08/01/07 (15)
        
        RE: Usually inverting the polarity - rick_m 07:58:41 08/01/07 (14)
        
        See how "they" have been messing with you? Just as with polarity! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:17:21 08/01/07 (13)
        
        Still waiting to know who "they" are.... -nt - rick_m 11:56:28 08/02/07 (5)
        
        "They" are Them; haven't you seen the movie? nt - clarkjohnsen 12:00:03 08/02/07 (4)
        
        I'm confused. I thought "Them" was Van Morrison's old band? -nt - Posy Rorer 22:05:26 08/02/07 (1)
        
        Them too. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:26:25 08/03/07 (0)
        
        RE: "They" are Them; haven't you seen the movie? nt - rick_m 13:10:05 08/02/07 (1)
        
        It's a wretched movie indeed, but highly informative. I'm with you on The Simpsons. In fact... - clarkjohnsen 07:20:48 08/03/07 (0)
        
        Actually, I don't see... - rick_m 11:33:23 08/01/07 (6)
        
        Question: Do the "speaker guys" ever tell us that they're selling phase incoherencers? - clarkjohnsen 11:41:59 08/01/07 (5)
        
        RE: Question: Do the "speaker guys" ever tell us that they're selling phase incoherencers? - rick_m 13:50:21 08/01/07 (4)
        
        What you say, was already well-known back in the Seventies and Eighties. - clarkjohnsen 08:43:08 08/02/07 (3)
        
        What WASN'T covered in 'The Wood Effect'? - rick_m 10:11:00 08/02/07 (2)
        
        Answer: What WAS, was anything and everything to do with polarity. - clarkjohnsen 10:34:21 08/02/07 (1)
        
        LOL!!!!! - unclestu52 15:02:22 09/16/07 (0)
        
        RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy - Posy Rorer 19:21:55 07/31/07 (17)
        
        A few observations on your observations - clarkjohnsen 10:10:22 08/01/07 (12)
        
        It is good to know - unclestu52 10:41:13 08/01/07 (11)
        
        RE: It is good to know - Posy Rorer 11:34:27 08/01/07 (10)
        
        RE: It is good to know - unclestu52 13:45:05 08/01/07 (9)
        
        RE: It is good to know - Posy Rorer 22:25:56 08/01/07 (8)
        
        The reason I tell him to "read the book" is because he claims to own it -- EXCEPT... - clarkjohnsen 09:00:01 08/02/07 (6)
        
        ex nihilo nihil fit - unclestu52 13:48:45 08/02/07 (5)
        
        aut concilio aut ense - Posy Rorer 22:57:11 08/02/07 (4)
        
        Yes; now you see what I mean. Good try, though, and thanks, but he's irredeemable. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:23:26 08/03/07 (2)
        
        The Clark sidestep.... - unclestu52 12:14:37 08/03/07 (0)
        
        Mind you, I added that before I had read his attempt at an indictment of me below. Lordy!! nt - clarkjohnsen 07:25:41 08/03/07 (0)
        
        My apologies for having - unclestu52 00:48:34 08/03/07 (0)
        
        Well, I am glad - unclestu52 22:38:26 08/01/07 (0)
        
        Did you know.... - unclestu52 19:51:37 07/31/07 (3)
        
        RE: Did you know.... - Posy Rorer 21:44:17 07/31/07 (2)
        
        "isn't the order of polarity locked into the recording?" No! - clarkjohnsen 11:35:43 08/01/07 (0)
        
        RE: Did you know.... - unclestu52 01:11:21 08/01/07 (0)
        
        Re Clark's Mathematical Model & The Mars Lunar Lander - unclestu52 22:19:43 07/30/07 (3)
        
        RE: Re Clark's Mathematical Model & The Mars Lunar Lander - Posy Rorer 00:31:26 07/31/07 (2)
        
        Lest this silliness continue... - clarkjohnsen 08:08:33 07/31/07 (1)
        
        Let's dance - unclestu52 13:54:09 07/31/07 (0)
        
        Re: "a degree in physics" - tlyyra 14:34:30 07/30/07 (0)
        
        You and Posy make quite a couple! - SF tech 11:17:50 07/30/07 (1)
        
        Naw, I think you & rlw make a much better couple. - Posy Rorer 21:51:56 07/30/07 (0)
        
        "Clark came up with it after many nights laboring over it, and I had to like -beg- him for it for days..." - SF tech 15:48:47 07/26/07 (7)
        
        Awww, whatsamatter, jr.? Did they kick you out of the PR Fan Club for attacking the less obsessive trolls? - Posy Rorer 23:56:27 07/26/07 (6)
        
        "I got a surprise waiting for you in my cabana...." -- Posy Rorer - SF tech 00:07:56 07/27/07 (5)
        
        "Are you human?" - SF Tech - Posy Rorer 06:23:17 07/27/07 (4)
        
        Witnessing your mental condition deteriorate is strangely fascinating... - SF tech 11:29:56 07/30/07 (3)
        
        LOL! Is anyone interested in taking up a collection to buy our "SF Tech" troll a sense of humour? - Posy Rorer 20:52:04 07/30/07 (2)
        
        LMAO! You *are* funny! - SF tech 22:59:46 07/30/07 (1)
        
        Gee, thanks. You are too. Never deliberately, alas. -nt - Posy Rorer 11:20:07 07/31/07 (0)
        
        RE: "admittedly I haven't tried all of their tweaks." - geoffkait 14:05:22 07/26/07 (17)
        
        Geoff - unclestu52 22:20:15 07/26/07 (15)
        
        RE: Negative or no results - geoffkait 02:14:20 07/27/07 (14)
        
        ( ? ) - unclestu52 19:49:57 07/27/07 (13)
        
        Don't do it Stu! I'm counting on you... - rick_m 12:44:32 07/28/07 (0)
        
        RE: ( ? ) - May Belt 08:45:26 07/28/07 (11)
        
        Testing advice? - rick_m 12:22:08 07/28/07 (10)
        
        RE: Testing advice? - May Belt 08:00:48 07/29/07 (9)
        
        RE: Testing advice? - rick_m 10:47:25 07/29/07 (8)
        
        "I am a firm believer in... the power of suggestion." Indeed, and... - clarkjohnsen 08:04:42 07/30/07 (7)
        
        Us? - rick_m 10:24:32 07/30/07 (6)
        
        "Keep an open mind." - rick m - Posy Rorer 21:09:26 07/30/07 (4)
        
        RE: "Keep an open mind." - rick m - rick_m 23:06:58 07/30/07 (3)
        
        RE: "Keep an open mind." - rick m - Posy Rorer 23:33:50 07/30/07 (2)
        
        It's nice to be loved... - rlw 09:04:55 08/05/07 (0)
        
        Nice choice for "mockworthy". nt - clarkjohnsen 08:33:48 07/31/07 (0)
        
        "Question your beliefs. Question Authority. Keep an open mind. Have a beer." - SF tech 17:25:36 07/30/07 (0)
        
        I never claimed to be superman ( NT ) - unclestu52 17:59:49 07/26/07 (0)
        
        I believe Einstein - unclestu52 21:59:01 07/25/07 (2)
        
        Illogical appeals to Einstein are a hallmark of bad thinking. - Enophile 22:08:23 07/25/07 (1)
        
        Cheer up! - unclestu52 01:58:02 07/26/07 (0)
- First, quick response -- more to come. May, is there *anything* one can do to one's system... - clarkjohnsen 14:15:24 07/23/07 (45)
  - RE: First, quick response -- more to come. May, is there *anything* one can do to one's system... - May Belt 08:03:31 07/25/07 (19)
    - RE: First, quick response -- more to come. May, is there *anything* one can do to one's system... - rick_m 10:16:39 07/25/07 (0)
    - The examples you offer are geared towards a Beltist explanation. And... - clarkjohnsen 09:06:10 07/25/07 (17)
      - RE: The examples you offer are geared towards a Beltist explanation. And... - Posy Rorer 14:46:58 07/25/07 (15)
        
        You write as though I'm denying the Beltist phenomena; I am not. I'm just trying to... - clarkjohnsen 08:28:45 07/26/07 (14)
        
        My argument is the lotion tweak is a Beltist tweak. And nothing else. - Posy Rorer 11:22:30 07/26/07 (13)
        
        How we gonna separate the variables? nt - clarkjohnsen 07:53:28 07/30/07 (6)
        
        Easy. Test passive devices in another room. nt - Posy Rorer 22:04:53 07/30/07 (5)
        
        Do we know that such a move obliterates the effect? Maybe go next door? nt - clarkjohnsen 08:41:19 07/31/07 (4)
        
        Yes, well going or placing the DUT next door will obliterate both conventional and Beltist effects. -nt - Posy Rorer 12:55:47 07/31/07 (3)
        
        What if "next door" is an apartment and thier rooms are contiguous with yours? (Just askin'...) - clarkjohnsen 09:40:29 08/01/07 (2)
        
        RE: What if "next door" is an apartment and thier rooms are contiguous with yours? (Just askin'...) - May Belt 12:37:29 08/01/07 (1)
        
        "Science does not begin to touch a fraction of how and why things work." No argument here! And... - clarkjohnsen 12:44:37 08/01/07 (0)
        
        Wow. That was quite a string of insults! A+ for effort! - Enophile 14:53:34 07/26/07 (5)
        
        Awww shucks, tweren't nuthin'.... No, really. - Posy Rorer 21:40:45 07/26/07 (4)
        
        Poser, showing his reflective, thoughtful side.... - rlw 07:43:21 07/30/07 (2)
        
        RLW's reflective side: "Make the giant, manly leap and show up on my doorstep while runnin' yer big mouth." - Posy Rorer 15:35:39 07/31/07 (0)
        
        SF Tech troll, have you met the Richard L. Wainwright troll? - Posy Rorer 22:00:58 07/30/07 (0)
        
        Posy, that is quite a manifesto you have there... - SF tech 23:32:47 07/26/07 (0)
      - RE: The examples you offer are geared towards a Beltist explanation. And... - May Belt 10:34:38 07/25/07 (0)
  - RE: First, quick response -- more to come. May, is there *anything* one can do to one's system... - May Belt 15:21:34 07/23/07 (24)
    - "So, Clark, I ask you." And ye shall be answered. - clarkjohnsen 10:57:07 07/24/07 (9)
      - RE: "So, Clark, I ask you." And ye shall be answered. - May Belt 14:52:56 07/24/07 (8)
        
        And more, and more - clarkjohnsen 09:13:26 07/25/07 (5)
        
        RE: And more, and more - May Belt 03:51:15 07/26/07 (1)
        
        Thanks for the essay, it elucidates the phenomenon wonderfully. - clarkjohnsen 08:18:56 07/30/07 (0)
        
        Perfect question. The whole jar being in the room or the house should have a proportionately large impact. - Enophile 10:36:07 07/25/07 (2)
        
        RE: Perfect question. The whole jar being in the room or the house should have a proportionately large impact. - Posy Rorer 15:12:19 07/25/07 (1)
        
        Thanks, your answer is logically consistent. We gotta drink and listen together. - Enophile 15:22:22 07/25/07 (0)
        
        RE: "So, Clark, I ask you." And ye shall be answered. - May Belt 08:01:57 07/25/07 (1)
        
        A static charge - unclestu52 19:14:29 07/25/07 (0)
    - You presume, of course,... - rlw 10:53:25 07/24/07 (12)
      - RE: You presume, of course,... - May Belt 14:49:06 07/24/07 (7)
        
        Only because Posy claimed that was my "problem"... - rlw 09:46:34 07/26/07 (6)
        
        RE: Only because Posy claimed that was my "problem"... - May Belt 02:01:32 07/27/07 (5)
        
        Sorry, May, the record speaks for itself... - rlw 05:39:40 07/27/07 (4)
        
        Yes it does. And the record shows that you're an insincere troll with a tweak-bashing agenda. - Posy Rorer 08:59:40 07/28/07 (2)
        
        Man, I'm LOVIN' this! - rlw 15:38:57 07/29/07 (1)
        
        Great job, "rlw". Thanks for confirming your troll status. You can be safely ignored now. -nt - Posy Rorer 22:11:28 07/30/07 (0)
        
        RE: Sorry, May, the record speaks for itself... - May Belt 08:42:03 07/27/07 (0)