Most who know me, know I'm using Sachiko double-back-loaded horns. Finally after six years of searching for the most natural sounding 8" full-range drivers. I sold my somewhat uncommon Fostex FE208ES-R drivers and settled on Rispoli-modified Dayton PS220-8 drivers! IMHO when loaded in the Sachikos these are THE 8" fullrange drivers to beat without going crazy and buying Voxativ or Feastrex drivers, but I'm not here to discuss what drivers are best in the Sachiko.
What I'm looking for is the best way to augment the sound from 100Hz down. But I have some criteria. This cabinet/driver combo must be sensitive. It has to match the Sachiko/Dayton's lightning fast dynamics, excellent transient response and ability to allow notes to naturally decay into the blackness of silence. I want to hear the natural fullness in the lower registers of music that's heard when acoustic instruments such as a standup bass, an acoustic grand piano or tuba is playing music. But I also want to hear it without the added bloat that's so often passed off as being "real" bass and incorrectly attributed to being the real sound of these instruments when playing music using these lower notes! This cabinet/driver combo must also have the correct pitch, timbre and harmonics of bass notes that so few speakers seem capable of even playing, let alone, achieving.
After six years of searching for the "best" sound I finally settled on using the Dayton PS220-8 in the Sachikos playing fullrange and allowed to roll-off naturally at both extremes. With the Fostex T900a super-tweeters crossing in at 10Khz I believe from 50Hz to 35KHz I'm now playing music about as cleanly and natural sounding as I'm capable of achieving. So now I need to know what cabinet/driver combo my fellow high sensitivity aficionados, would suggest I use with the Sachikos? One of Tom Danley's tapped horns? One of Les Hudson's wave-boxes? Or perhaps one of Bill Fitzmaurice's horn subs? I'm open to any idea of suggestion that meet's my criteria.
And I can finally say this is the last area in my present system's sonic presentation that I believe I can improve on WITHOUT having to spend more money than I have and probably would care to spend even if I could do so! So does anyone have any suggestions for me about how to fill in from 100Hz and below that meets my criteria? TIA...
I'm listening to Bluebird Fly by Jessica Lee
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom)
Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society
Full-range/Wide-range Drivers --- Front & Back-Loaded Horns --- High Sensitivity Speakers
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Topic - I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - thetubeguy1954 17:55:37 08/14/14 (88)
- The elephant in the room is... - Duke 13:56:14 08/24/14 (21)
- RE: Global vs. Local - genungo 09:39:06 08/25/14 (2)
- RE: Global vs. Local - Duke 13:07:25 08/25/14 (0)
- RE: Global vs. Local - Bill Fitzmaurice 11:24:47 08/25/14 (0)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - kyle 15:44:16 08/24/14 (17)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - Duke 20:59:58 08/24/14 (15)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - Crazy Dave 09:41:01 08/26/14 (13)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - Duke 11:17:21 08/26/14 (9)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - Crazy Dave 11:39:58 08/28/14 (5)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - Bill Fitzmaurice 15:02:15 08/28/14 (4)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - Crazy Dave 14:36:06 09/04/14 (2)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - Bill Fitzmaurice 16:34:24 09/04/14 (1)
- Got it! Thanks! (nt) - Crazy Dave 11:23:27 09/05/14 (0)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - Inmate51 12:17:02 08/29/14 (0)
- RE: Decay of bass energy: "... headphones may go too far the other way." - genungo 12:40:43 08/26/14 (2)
- RE: Decay of bass energy: "... headphones may go too far the other way." - Inmate51 13:51:13 08/26/14 (1)
- RE: headphones - genungo 14:23:54 08/26/14 (0)
- Bass. - Inmate51 09:59:40 08/26/14 (2)
- RE: Bass. - Crazy Dave 11:42:38 08/28/14 (1)
- "...spell check won't detect it." - acres verde 08:17:57 09/10/14 (0)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - Inmate51 07:13:14 08/25/14 (0)
- RE: The elephant in the room is... - Bill Fitzmaurice 16:22:28 08/24/14 (0)
- :-) - bare 13:40:01 08/17/14 (1)
- you meant Polly Purebred....NT - bcguitar 06:33:54 08/19/14 (0)
- PPSL ? - thermionic addictions 21:45:06 08/16/14 (26)
- RE: PPSL ? - thetubeguy1954 11:40:27 08/19/14 (23)
- RE: PPSL ? - thermionic addictions 13:45:59 08/20/14 (22)
- "woffers". Ha! That's funny! nt - Inmate51 13:06:23 08/22/14 (1)
- ?? - thermionic addictions 18:02:49 08/22/14 (0)
- RE: PPSL ? - Hornlover 07:51:24 08/22/14 (19)
- 30 or 40 ? - djk 00:06:55 08/26/14 (17)
- RE: 30 or 40 ? - claudej1@aol.com 07:45:39 08/29/14 (14)
- RE: 30 or 40 ? - djk 22:51:40 08/29/14 (13)
- RE: 30 or 40 ? - claudej1@aol.com 10:12:15 08/30/14 (12)
- 4x 12 - djk 00:28:49 09/03/14 (6)
- RE: 4x 12 - TonyB 06:46:38 09/10/14 (0)
- RE: 4x 12 - JoshK 08:23:19 09/06/14 (0)
- RE: 4x 12 - claudej1@aol.com 11:25:00 09/04/14 (3)
- RE: 30 or 40 ? - Hornlover 08:30:07 09/02/14 (4)
- RE: 30 or 40 ? - djk 23:08:36 09/02/14 (2)
- RE: 30 or 40 ? - claudej1@aol.com 07:59:47 09/03/14 (1)
- RE: 30 or 40 ? - djk 14:57:10 09/03/14 (0)
- RE: 30 or 40 ? - Hornlover 08:36:32 09/02/14 (0)
- RE: 30 or 40 ? - Hornlover 07:48:51 08/26/14 (1)
- RE: 30 or 40 ? - djk 18:07:50 08/26/14 (0)
- O.K. thanks for clearing that up. nt - thermionic addictions 17:58:55 08/22/14 (0)
- RE: PPSL ? Hey Les... - Scholl 17:24:04 08/17/14 (1)
- RE: PPSL ? Hey Les... - thermionic addictions 18:47:01 08/17/14 (0)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - Saturntube 10:27:22 08/16/14 (1)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - thetubeguy1954 11:42:54 08/19/14 (0)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - Scholl 05:05:48 08/16/14 (4)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - thetubeguy1954 08:01:19 08/16/14 (3)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - bcguitar 06:41:13 08/19/14 (2)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - thetubeguy1954 11:49:29 08/19/14 (1)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - bcguitar 16:53:59 08/19/14 (0)
- You need either corner horns or servo subs - morricab 03:42:02 08/16/14 (3)
- RE: You need either corner horns or servo subs - thetubeguy1954 08:42:09 08/16/14 (2)
- RE: You need either corner horns or servo subs - morricab 09:40:11 08/16/14 (1)
- RE: You need either corner horns or servo subs - thetubeguy1954 11:50:46 08/19/14 (0)
- If it were me, I'd go with floor loaded Open Baffle of the JELabs design... - Ivan303 19:11:12 08/15/14 (0)
- Returning a favor - Rick R 12:47:40 08/15/14 (1)
- RE: Returning a favor - thetubeguy1954 13:23:00 08/15/14 (0)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - Paul Joppa 11:39:07 08/15/14 (6)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - thetubeguy1954 13:38:32 08/15/14 (5)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - Paul Joppa 16:06:22 08/18/14 (0)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - Retsel 14:42:28 08/15/14 (3)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - thetubeguy1954 16:38:00 08/15/14 (2)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - Retsel 14:44:48 08/19/14 (0)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - Saturntube 17:39:56 08/15/14 (0)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - Hornlover 07:51:58 08/15/14 (0)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - Craiger56 06:32:46 08/15/14 (1)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - thetubeguy1954 16:15:10 08/15/14 (0)
- With main cabs so large and having weak low end - Kloss 06:09:38 08/15/14 (7)
- RE: With main cabs so large and having weak low end - thetubeguy1954 16:58:50 08/15/14 (6)
- Maybe a Tapped horn? - Kloss 08:51:48 08/18/14 (2)
- RE: Maybe a Tapped horn? - thetubeguy1954 12:02:46 08/19/14 (1)
- RE: Maybe a Tapped horn? - Kloss 06:42:45 08/20/14 (0)
- RE: " I'd keep going DOWN by 10 hz --- (90hz, 80hz,...)" - genungo 11:49:15 08/16/14 (2)
- RE: " I'd keep going DOWN by 10 hz --- (90hz, 80hz,...)" - thetubeguy1954 13:04:47 08/19/14 (1)
- RE: Up instead of down... - genungo 15:17:10 08/19/14 (0)
- Talk to this guy... - genungo 19:15:27 08/14/14 (3)
- RE: Talk to this guy... - thetubeguy1954 17:05:26 08/15/14 (1)
- RE: "actual question" - genungo 19:52:00 08/15/14 (0)
- RE: Talk to this guy... - drlowmu 15:07:20 08/15/14 (0)
- RE: I Need Help Achieving 100Hz & Below Correctly - Bill Fitzmaurice 19:06:08 08/14/14 (0)