HeyI am tuning my horn system and need advices.
I currently have a TAD 1603 loaded into a 170LT/35Hz bass reflex, a 300Hz JMLC-Iwata horn with a TAD 4001 and a 1kHz JMLC horn with TAD 2001; xover is 600ohm 24dB/oct at 600Hz and 8/16ohm 6dB/oct at 2.4kHz (at drivers binding posts); system is biamped. I switch back and forth between 2 ways (bass bin + big horn only) and 3 ways and I cannot mature any definitive decision.
Measurements are attached, physical time alignment is now optimized for the best measured and listening result (well, I hope): drivers are 30cm approx behind the woofer, I used to have them perfectly aligned to woofer but it seems to sound better this way and step response is more compact too.
When I am playing it 2 ways it seems to be more snappy and with more focus but voices sound sometime a bit gigantic and megaphonic (specifically male voices in certain songs). 3 ways sounds milder and voices are just superb but somehow the system is a bit blurry. These are very subtle and minor nuances to be listened for with care and attention. All in all this set up is really enjoyable and much better than many speakers I listened to.
Any comment on the bandwidth and step response and suggestions and guidance? I am prepared to get rid of 2001's and add a super tweeter at 8-10kHz but somehow I feel that would not improve the situation. Would a different mids horn (tractrix or JMLC) change things? I'd like to retain the brisk and detailed timbre of 2 ways but maintain the nuances of 3 ways.
thanks everybody
gianluca
measurements at 3.5mt from speakers
Edits: 03/12/14
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Topic - Help me with these horns - gluca 15:51:43 03/12/14 (42)
- RE: Help me with these horns - kapitein 14:29:49 05/14/14 (0)
- More ribbons - gluca 12:53:57 03/20/14 (9)
- RE: More ribbons - JoshK 09:15:18 04/09/14 (8)
- RE: More ribbons - green heron 13:58:34 04/22/14 (2)
- You hit the nail on the head - JoshK 17:55:53 04/22/14 (1)
- RE: You hit the nail on the head - green heron 11:44:22 04/23/14 (0)
- RE: More ribbons - green heron 13:38:05 04/18/14 (4)
- RE: More ribbons - JoshK 06:01:22 04/21/14 (3)
- RE: More ribbons - green heron 08:13:19 04/21/14 (2)
- Awesome - JoshK 11:50:32 04/21/14 (1)
- RE: Awesome - green heron 08:12:00 04/22/14 (0)
- New measurement - gluca 10:54:30 03/16/14 (0)
- RE: Help me with these horns - Rod M 18:01:13 03/15/14 (7)
- RE: Help me with these horns - gluca 10:51:17 03/16/14 (6)
- RE: Help me with these horns - Rod M 12:45:06 03/16/14 (5)
- Not necessarily redundant. - Mats Gunnars 06:57:13 03/19/14 (3)
- What RAAL? - gluca 08:08:53 03/20/14 (2)
- RE: What RAAL? - JoshK 05:43:16 04/04/14 (0)
- RE: What RAAL? - Mats Gunnars 13:01:32 03/20/14 (0)
- I agree - gluca 04:22:53 03/17/14 (0)
- RE: Help me with these horns - bwaslo 09:14:16 03/14/14 (0)
- unfiltered - gluca 16:22:03 03/13/14 (2)
- RE: unfiltered - John Sheerin 20:38:15 03/13/14 (1)
- Nearfield - gluca 01:02:16 03/14/14 (0)
- more data - gluca 12:05:22 03/13/14 (2)
- RE: more data - Saturntube 12:48:34 03/13/14 (1)
- RE: more data - gluca 13:31:03 03/13/14 (0)
- RE: Help me with these horns - D Mike 09:33:23 03/13/14 (0)
- over issues and add RAAL tweeter - RCA-fan 06:35:49 03/13/14 (13)
- 2001 curve - RCA-fan 13:36:15 03/19/14 (0)
- RE: over issues and add RAAL tweeter - RCA-fan 06:40:09 03/13/14 (11)
- RE: over issues and add RAAL tweeter - hottattoo 09:45:50 03/13/14 (10)
- I can assure you an EV15b doen not have a natural roll off - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 14:26:03 03/13/14 (9)
- RE: I can assure you an EV15b doen not have a natural roll off - Frank Mena 03:41:24 03/14/14 (8)
- When I get it closer to finished ... - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 08:10:02 03/14/14 (7)
- RE: When I get it closer to finished ... - Maxophone 21:13:56 03/14/14 (3)
- Just noticed your question - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 15:04:28 03/17/14 (2)
- RE: Just noticed your question - Maxophone 21:03:28 03/17/14 (1)
- The very opposite - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 10:33:13 03/18/14 (0)
- Thanks - Frank Mena 10:24:50 03/14/14 (2)
- I am about 12 to 14 feet away (have not measured) - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 15:26:26 03/14/14 (0)
- RE: Thanks - bwaslo 11:52:21 03/14/14 (0)