O.K. – so your first question is “Why?â€There are a number of add-in clock upgrades available including the Audiocom Superclock II, LC Audio LClock XO2, Tent Engineering XO2 and – if you want to build your own, the Kwak Clock. I had decided to use a Superclock after reading glowing reviews on this board -- and I even bought one. But then I started looking at Sony’s clock implementation and realized that maybe it just needed a little fixing.
This post applies only to the SCD-1/777ES. Other Sony players use gate oscillators constructed with discrete parts (crystal, capacitors, resistor). But on the SCD-1/777ES, Sony used a KDS packaged oscillator – and a rather good one apparently. Although the jitter spec is not published for the DSO751S series oscillator, I talked with a KDS engineer and learned that the spec is 5 picoseconds. This isn’t quite state of the art – but damn close. Packaged oscillators are more expensive than the typical gate oscillators constructed of discrete parts, but they offer a number of advantages including laser-trimmed frequency of the complete oscillator circuit and very short signal paths – which can lead to high accuracy and very low jitter if a good crystal is used.
Physically, the design of the clock is excellent. The oscillator is within an inch of the S-TACT DAC, right where it belongs. The clock is buffered and the buffer is integrated into the DAC rather than existing as a separate component. This ideal layout can’t be duplicated by an add-in clock connected to the oscillator mounting pads by an umbilical.
Sony also provided separate power supplies for the VC24 chip, S-TACT chip and oscillator/buffer. The single-regulated power supply for the VC24 chip is located on the Power Supply Board. The double-regulated supplies for the S-TACT chip and oscillator/buffer consist of a rectifier and regulator on the Power Supply Board and a second set of regulators on the Audio Board.
But Sony took a misstep on the design of the oscillator/clock power supply. It’s just a 3-pin regulator– and it’s a really noisy little SOT-92 type. One of the big advantages of add-in clocks is low-noise power supplies and this thing is anything but low noise at 70mV! (For those of you with add-in clocks, this noisy regulator is still feeding the input buffer in the S-TACT chip to which your clock is connected.)
I replaced the SOT-92 regulator with an Audiocom Super Regulator. The stock regulator is glued to the underside of the board – so I sought help in removing it. I then used silicone to glue the Super Regulator to a blank spot on the underside of the board near the regulator pads (spaced off the board about 1/16â€).
I also replaced the 5V regulator feeding the S-TACT chip with an Audiocom Super Regulator. The S-TACT chip contains the clock generator and appears to reclock and amplify the pulse train from the VC24 chip. If upgrading regulators is going to make a difference, upgrading the oscillator/buffer and S-TACT regulators will have the most effect. If I were going to replace another regulator, it would be the 5V regulator on the Power Supply Board that feeds the VC24 chip. This chip distributes the clock signal from the S-TACT chip to the DSD decoder and ARP chips on the Main Board.
The caps on the regulator outputs are also less than great. Sony used 25V Elna Silmics which are very good caps for analog – but not the best choice for digital. So I replaced the Silmics with Sanyo Oscons. The bypass cap straddling the oscillator is a .1 uF, 250V mylar cap. This is a really bad choice for a 45 Mhz component – so I replaced it with a Panasonic ECHS PPS film cap which has the same lead spacing.
Changing the regulators and caps is a BIG upgrade and I attribute most of the effect to changing the oscillator/buffer regulator and caps. David Robinson described changing the S-TACT regulator along with the current pulse DAC regulators and OPA2604 op amps as no big whoop (Positive Feedback Online, Issue 4) – but this mod is a big whoop. The results correspond with the descriptions of replacing Sony’s clock with add-in clocks. There are many eloquent descriptions out there of what add-in clocks can do – so here’s just a quick summary of what you get from this mod: much better articulation resulting in much better soundstaging, better overall coherence, increased body, more extended AND smoother treble, cleaner and more articulate bass and a better sense of pace. Yes, it’s almost too good to be true.
Besides the suboptimal power supplies, there are grounding problems around the oscillator and S-TACT chip. I believe that one of the reasons that add-in clocks are effective on the SCD-1/777ES is that they get the clock off the noisy ground plane. However, it’s better to leave the clock in an ideal position and fix the ground plane.
The Audio Board ground plane has three ground connections to the three power supplies coming from the Power Supply Board (5V, 9V and 18V). These ground connections are literally distributed from one end of the Audio Board to the other. This makes for a noisy ground plane in the vicinity of the oscillator and S-TACT chip as the different ground potentials of the three power supplies attempt to equalize themselves. In a previous mod (see power supplies, revised grounding below link below), I created a star ground for these three power supplies on the Power Supply Board. The effects of this mod were substantial – and correspond to the effects described for jitter reducing mods.
So are these clock mods as good or better than an add-in clock? The answer will never be known unless both approaches are taken in identical players and the players are compared. All I can say is that this mod sounds great!
Break-in: I did this mod in multiple parts – and learned that both the regulators and caps need at least 50 hours of operation to break in.
Other SCD-1/777ES Mods and Information
Analog Signal Path
Replaced RCA jacks with Vampire OFC jacks
Replaced output wire with Kimber AGSS
Revised grounding creating a star ground for audio board
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/hirez/messages/41691.htmlReplaced AD712s in the output buffer stage with hi-spec OPA2132s
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/hirez/messages/78259.html
Replaced resistors and capacitors in I/V conversion stage
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/hirez/messages/93363.htmlSet filters to “customâ€
Power Supplies
Revised grounding, AC polarity, analog supply bypassing
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/hirez/messages/107304.htmlRemoved choke on analog power supply
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/hirez/messages/32357.htmlTransport
Added capacitance to the “Digital†(Transport) Power Supplies
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/hirez/messages/133431.htmlClock
Improved power supplies to oscillator and S-TACT chip and quieted ground plane
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Analog Signal Path
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Topic - SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - jhietbrink 18:53:50 05/12/03 (52)
- We need some moderation here!!!! - Ric Schultz 12:46:47 05/15/03 (1)
- Ric:Take a breath---calm down---it's only a spirited discussion. - Audiocrazed 00:16:44 05/16/03 (0)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - Audiocom International Ltd 08:30:36 05/14/03 (11)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - jhietbrink 14:52:55 05/15/03 (4)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - Audiocom International Ltd 04:47:33 05/16/03 (2)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - fmak 06:48:20 05/16/03 (1)
- No one is attacking you for trying other clocks and mods. - Audiocrazed 17:13:58 05/16/03 (0)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - fmak 00:25:53 05/16/03 (0)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - fmak 09:28:45 05/14/03 (4)
- When you put down a companies products, and those who install them - - - - Audiocrazed 21:47:10 05/14/03 (2)
- Re: When you put down a companies products, and those who install them - - - - fmak 23:48:42 05/14/03 (1)
- Your the one criticising products through speculation. - Audiocrazed 23:59:19 05/15/03 (0)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - audioeyedoc 14:10:39 05/14/03 (0)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - Cappy 08:51:01 05/14/03 (0)
- What part Numbers? - PhopsonNY 08:12:47 05/14/03 (6)
- Re: What part Numbers? - jhietbrink 18:10:31 05/14/03 (0)
- Re: What part Numbers? - fmak 08:38:37 05/14/03 (4)
- IC 304 & 309 - PhopsonNY 10:35:56 05/14/03 (3)
- Re: IC 304 & 309 - fmak 12:28:48 05/14/03 (2)
- Judgement - PhopsonNY 12:49:24 05/14/03 (1)
- Re: Judgement - fmak 02:46:52 05/15/03 (0)
- Fascinating post...I do note that many of us who have gone for the Superclock... - Methos 14:40:40 05/13/03 (10)
- Re: Fascinating post...I do note that many of us who have gone for the Superclock... - jhietbrink 19:11:40 05/13/03 (9)
- The Audiocom mod is a bit more extensive than that, as they replace 5 regulators on the audio board - Methos 08:47:09 05/14/03 (2)
- Re: The Audiocom mod is a bit more extensive than that, as they replace 5 regulators on the audio bo - jhietbrink 19:33:05 05/14/03 (1)
- Re: The Audiocom mod is a bit more extensive than that, as they replace 5 regulators on the audio bo - fmak 23:52:55 05/14/03 (0)
- Did you ever discovered the jitter problem that both Methos and I noted? - jeromelang 22:06:44 05/13/03 (5)
- Re: Did you ever discovered the jitter problem that both Methos and I noted? - jhietbrink 18:19:04 05/14/03 (4)
- Re: Did you ever discovered the jitter problem that both Methos and I noted? - jeromelang 19:43:40 05/14/03 (3)
- Jerome, I thought your problem had to do with repeats. - williak 08:22:50 05/15/03 (2)
- Re: Jerome, I thought your problem had to do with repeats. - jeromelang 19:43:03 05/15/03 (1)
- Re: Thanks.<nt> - williak 06:15:43 05/16/03 (0)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - jusbe 07:19:00 05/13/03 (3)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - jhietbrink 19:13:51 05/13/03 (0)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - fmak 08:26:17 05/13/03 (1)
- Glad to hear it. - jusbe 02:20:58 05/14/03 (0)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - fmak 00:27:06 05/13/03 (3)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - jhietbrink 19:17:58 05/13/03 (2)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - fmak 00:10:47 05/14/03 (1)
- Re: SCD-1/777ES Alternative Clock Mod - jhietbrink 19:24:12 05/14/03 (0)
- When are you just going to bite the bullet and install the Super Clock 2? - Audiocrazed 21:50:31 05/12/03 (11)
- Re: When are you just going to bite the bullet and install the Super Clock 2? - fmak 01:42:06 05/13/03 (9)
- Re: When are you just going to bite the bullet and install the Super Clock 2? - Audiocrazed 23:42:11 05/13/03 (8)
- Re: When are you just going to bite the bullet and install the Super Clock 2? - fmak 00:15:43 05/14/03 (7)
- I have no problem with someone doing their own mods, but - Audiocrazed 03:29:45 05/14/03 (6)
- Re: I have no problem with someone doing their own mods, but - jhietbrink 19:16:10 05/14/03 (1)
- See Audiocom's post above for their take on this. - Audiocrazed 22:06:24 05/14/03 (0)
- Re: I have no problem with someone doing their own mods, but - fmak 04:09:21 05/14/03 (3)
- Report on what you installed not on what you did not install. - Audiocrazed 22:10:21 05/14/03 (2)
- Re: Report on what you installed not on what you did not install. - fmak 23:56:44 05/14/03 (1)
- Re: Report on what you installed not on what you did not install. - discs4sale 11:00:55 05/15/03 (0)
- When you were experimenting. - jusbe 01:31:28 05/13/03 (0)