History repeats itself

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Posted by DkB on April 24, 2003 at 22:55:00

In Reply to: Huh oh... DSOTM spindle hole cracking... posted by Visterel on April 24, 2003 at 18:36:35:

These cracks were a big problem with 1st generation Hybrids made at the Philips optics plant in Holland. Many of my Phillips Hybrids would had cracks spreading out, many of the cracks spreading outward to affect the data area.

Because of the cracks, I had since gotten Sonopress replacements for almost all of those Philips Hybrids, as subsequent batches of many early titles were re-pressed at the Sonopress plant. I still have 3 of the Phillips hybrids (including Blues in Orbit which will never be re-pressed) and I am very delicate when handling them, in case cracks should appear. Once they do, they just spread until they reach the data area.

I rejoiced when they closed the Philips plant, but it seems they've found a way to replicate this problem in their newest high tech plant! Don't they learn from their mistakes? Years ago, I sent several messages to the Phillips people complaining about this, and offering links to discussions on this BBS discussing the problem of cracks. They acknowledged the problem and sent me some replacement Hybrids.

I have checked my Crest SACDs, and while my Amelia's SOng,Ray Brown Trio/DSOTM/Broadway Inspirational Voices hybrids don't have cracks (yet?) I see a crack forming at the spindle hole on my Bob Mintzer Gently SACD. A real pity as that is one of the most realistic sounding SACDs produced!

As if the indifference of listeners to SACD's advantages were not bad enough, this problem the last thing SACD needs. I, for one, will be very wary of buying SACDs from now. I will check every Hybrid I purchase for cracks, and I will return every cracked Hybrid I find. We should not have to pay so much for Hybrids only to have them crack up gradually and become unplayable eventually.

Being from SIngapore, I may have no way of contacting Crest directly, but those of you in the USA should.

Hopefully these are merely teething problems faced by the Crest plant. Hopefully, this propensity to crack is NOT inherent in the material or process they have chosen to make these hybrids.

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Topic - Huh oh... DSOTM spindle hole cracking... - Visterel 18:36:35 04/24/03 (31)

No problems here.... {nt} - SnaggS 06:50:02 04/26/03 (0)

Main sellers of unquality disks are Groove Note and DMP - Zl 19:27:48 04/25/03 (0)

Damnit! - pjchappy 16:24:50 04/25/03 (0)

Throw out the darn jewel case... - itetcboo 15:16:42 04/25/03 (1)

Not neccessairy... - Frank 15:40:21 04/26/03 (0)

No cracks here (nt) - Slosh 05:25:01 04/25/03 (4)

Ditto - jimmyjames 16:49:06 04/25/03 (3)

I played mine about 3 times, that's what... - Michi 18:22:44 04/25/03 (2)

Re: I played mine about 3 times, that's what... - bmoura 09:14:06 04/26/03 (1)

I think one of my Police ones are... - Michi 05:08:15 04/27/03 (0)

Jeez, just looked at mine, you don't even want to see it... INTERESTING NOTE on the DISC! - Michi 03:10:23 04/25/03 (4)

Re: Jeez, just looked at mine, you don't even want to see it... INTERESTING NOTE on the DISC! - cornelius cornball 14:30:31 04/25/03 (2)

Is that only in the EU, or does that apply in the US or Canada as well? - Michi 16:13:16 04/25/03 (1)

The UCC is for the US. . .. nt - pjchappy 16:40:50 04/25/03 (0)

I noticed this as well. interesting - Replevin 12:16:26 04/25/03 (0)

Anyone want my Japanese pressing? - Stephen 23:16:16 04/24/03 (2)

Stephen, how would I go about getting one of those from you? - Michi 03:19:24 04/25/03 (1)

You should return yours to the retailer - Stephen 03:35:58 04/25/03 (0)

ZI raised this problem here some time ago.. - dkb 22:56:42 04/24/03 (0)

History repeats itself - DkB 22:55:00 04/24/03 (1)

Very useful post. Thanks a lot (nt) - Eric LeRouge 10:30:07 04/25/03 (0)

Re: Huh oh... DSOTM spindle hole cracking... - RBP 22:12:38 04/24/03 (0)

Re: Huh oh... DSOTM spindle hole cracking... - ratskrad 21:38:38 04/24/03 (0)

Someone posted about Crest hybrids on 4/21 - bruce3825 19:29:02 04/24/03 (7)

EMI will not replace the discs. The pink floyd discs are provided "as is". - Michi 03:17:16 04/25/03 (4)

Re: EMI will not replace the discs. The pink floyd discs are provided "as is". - 4frank2 03:32:35 04/25/03 (3)

Frank's right - Pacman 06:55:50 04/25/03 (2)

ditto - nt - Replevin 12:18:00 04/25/03 (0)

Re: Frank's right - 4frank2 07:08:34 04/25/03 (0)

Re: Yes. I think ALL Crest's SACDs have cracks, more or less - Zl 19:43:37 04/24/03 (1)

Crest SACDs: Some With Cracks, Some Not - bmoura 21:27:44 04/24/03 (0)

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History repeats itself - DkB 22:55:00 04/24/03 (1)

Very useful post. Thanks a lot (nt) - Eric LeRouge 10:30:07 04/25/03 (0)

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