HowdyYou all know that I don't hold with swearing or with superlatives, but Rass 'm Frass 'm Meatballs! Does the Ed Meitner DAC sound good!
I was just over to MikeL's house (http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/663.html) and we listened to the Meitner DAC alongside his Linn CD12 and Marantz SA-1 for about three hours. I'm getting one.
The short version:
Mike will be listening more critically to the differences between the Linn and the Meitner as the Meitner breaks in and may have more to say later.
As some might expect the Rockport turntable bettered any of the digital including the Meitner, but I've expressed myself on this issue before.
On SACD, the Meitner DAC is just better in every way I can think of than any other digital I've heard and in particular Mike's Marantz SA-1, my Sony SCD-777ES, my modded SCD-XA777ES, and my other players.
The longer version (this is from memory, I didn't take notes):
After the first couple of cuts we stopped listening to the Marantz at all. The Meitner DAC had a deeper more layered soundstage, it had a lower noise floor, the instruments had more body and detail... Just no contest in any dimension that we could come up with.
The detail that I never heard before:
Blues in Orbit: The spit in the slide of the trombone, the F-attachment hitting the stops and causing the bell to ring a little.
Glen Gould: We all know that he hums, but I thought he just hummed now and then, but he hums all the time.
Tiny Island: so much more is going on that I ever noticed before, I have to listen again tonight to see if it's the same disc :)
But that isn't what moved me. I was expecting the Meitner to be better, given it's reputation and pedigree. What I wasn't prepared for was: It retained the best of everything I'd ever heard on digital playback, but it also fixed my pet peeves with every disc I put in:
On Muddy Waters, the voice can bloom and become a little harsh, not on the Meitner.
On Rebecca Pigeon's Spanish Harlem, the reverb seems a little excessive, perhaps even unnatural, not on the Meitner.
On some of the Steve Hoffman remastered discs, the treble can seem a little hot, not on the Meitner.
At times Keb Mo's voice wasn't smooth, but on the Meitner it always seemed natural and controlled.
Zombies: let's just say that it wasn't one of my favorite discs. On the Meitner it came alive and I really enjoyed it.We enjoyed many other discs as well, I'm just floored at how much there is left to hear in SACD. As I said above I need to get one of these.
-Ted
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Topic - An afternoon with the Meitner DAC - Ted Smith 20:34:29 02/08/03 (64)
- have to keep reminding myself - never EVER audition this player :-) - Christine Tham 18:22:00 02/09/03 (2)
- Yeah, I hear ya, gotta stop auditioning equipment.... - oscar 21:36:21 02/10/03 (0)
- .......resistance is futile.......to hear is to need....n/t - mikel 18:34:25 02/09/03 (1)
- i wonder if - chiggy 16:41:47 02/09/03 (0)
- How much are we talking? - Duilawyer 10:27:56 02/09/03 (10)
- Re: How much are we talking? - Ted Smith 10:38:38 02/09/03 (9)
- YOW! Thanks. I am out. nt - Duilawyer 20:28:29 02/09/03 (0)
- any guess on a 2 channel version? nt - Replevin 15:55:12 02/09/03 (1)
- Don't know. - Ted Smith 17:16:37 02/09/03 (0)
- Re: How much are we talking? - David Shapiro 12:48:33 02/09/03 (4)
- Not to mention wire - Ted Smith 13:41:31 02/09/03 (3)
- Does the sub work well as an isolation platform? :) <nt> - Russtafarian 17:26:55 02/10/03 (1)
- Re: Does the sub work well as an isolation platform? :) <nt> - Ted Smith 17:34:26 02/10/03 (0)
- I think I'll wait ... - Stephen 16:31:52 02/09/03 (0)
- Get your own SACD1000 ?? - Frank 10:46:30 02/09/03 (0)
- Meitner DAC Info? - rnhood 09:32:54 02/09/03 (1)
- Re: Meitner DAC Info? - Ted Smith 10:34:06 02/09/03 (0)
- Damn! Thanks for the report! - Replevin 09:22:28 02/09/03 (0)
- It is really wonderful to read your post as I have - panorama 09:13:18 02/09/03 (2)
- Which Karma's? - Ted Smith 10:05:56 02/09/03 (1)
- The Kharma CRM 3.2's - panorama 10:47:47 02/09/03 (0)
- i am impressed - Nano 06:57:04 02/09/03 (0)
- Thanks Ted....... - mikel 00:50:34 02/09/03 (28)
- Mike, any comments on redbook performance? - Rzado 18:17:52 02/09/03 (1)
- not yet.......stay tuned....... - mikel 18:32:00 02/09/03 (0)
- If the rest of the house is anything like this... - Penguin 08:36:38 02/09/03 (22)
- you know what they can do these days with digital photography...... - mikel 10:25:34 02/09/03 (21)
- Wanna tweak it? - Ric Schultz 12:33:37 02/09/03 (7)
- Re: Wanna tweak it? - mikel 15:37:44 02/09/03 (1)
- Re: Wanna tweak it? - Ric Schultz 16:04:04 02/09/03 (1)
- Does this mean a change of heart,there might be something you can now do to SACD 1000 or - Joe M 14:56:58 02/09/03 (1)
- Re: Does this mean a change of heart,there might be something you can now do to SACD 1000 or - Ric Schultz 15:40:27 02/09/03 (0)
- Well maybe you should make a bet with Ed.... - Penguin 14:01:19 02/09/03 (0)
- $9,000 and it still has to be tweeked? - TGT 13:27:13 02/09/03 (1)
- Re: $9,000 and it still has to be tweeked? - Chris Garrett 13:40:56 02/09/03 (0)
- Ah, high res digital photos.... - Penguin 12:06:18 02/09/03 (5)
- Re: Ah, high res digital photos.... - mikel 16:50:44 02/09/03 (4)
- High Rez digital infancey....well maybe childhood. - Ric Schultz 22:27:12 02/11/03 (2)
- Re: High Rez digital infancey....well maybe childhood. - mikel 06:54:56 02/13/03 (1)
- Re: High Rez digital infancey....well maybe childhood. - Ric Schultz 11:03:34 02/13/03 (0)
- I was thinking the other day.... - sxr71 21:01:42 02/09/03 (0)
- Its been a year since..... - panorama 10:54:29 02/09/03 (6)
- Re: Its been a year since..... - mikel 11:05:24 02/09/03 (5)
- Have some hot soup ready this Summer Mikel....... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:06:39 02/09/03 (3)
- oh oh.......here's trouble........there goes the neighborhood....... - mikel 14:19:19 02/09/03 (2)
- Hold on there Mikel - bit of water in my laptop....... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:18:40 02/11/03 (1)
- "soup of the hob"........ - mikel 06:16:21 02/13/03 (0)
- Re: Its been a year since..... - gbeard 13:08:15 02/09/03 (0)
- Beautiful and well executed system - RBP 05:13:06 02/09/03 (2)
- Yes it is - rnhood 09:28:20 02/09/03 (1)
- It's always a treat to visit Mike's house - Ted Smith 10:15:57 02/09/03 (0)
- Re: Yo, Ted...... - alan m. kafton 22:32:38 02/08/03 (3)
- Re: Yo, Ted...... - Ted Smith 22:47:13 02/08/03 (0)
- Re: Meitner DAC6 Transport = SACD-1000 - bmoura 22:41:33 02/08/03 (1)
- Re: Meitner DAC6 Transport = SACD-1000 - alan m. kafton 09:21:25 02/09/03 (0)
- Damn, you bastard........ - Chris Garrett 21:24:14 02/08/03 (8)
- Re: Damn, you bastard........ - jimo 12:45:24 02/09/03 (1)
- Hmmm, I don't think I'm overly enthusiastic regarding DR's opinions.... - Chris Garrett 13:47:39 02/09/03 (0)
- It sucks, I'll have to sell two or three SACD players... - Ted Smith 21:52:37 02/08/03 (5)
- Yo, wife for sale, wife for sale... - JCS 04:24:53 02/09/03 (4)
- How old & how much ? nt - patrickU 06:15:37 02/09/03 (3)
- Even I'm not stupid enough to release age, price negotiable. (nt) - JCS 08:25:32 02/09/03 (2)
- Cat in the bag ? As we say in Germany ? nt - patrickU 08:52:29 02/09/03 (1)
- Ich vertrage die Hitze nicht. (nt) - JCS 10:22:27 02/09/03 (0)