Re: oh, by the way, even 90dB is actually a very *good* S/N ratio - Jim Pearce

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Topic - Have you noticed.....(wild conjectures wanted) - Jim Pearce 10:01:26 01/30/03 (55)

The biggest shortcoming of SACD is that most of its proponents are... - 9fold 04:40:32 01/31/03 (3)

Psst, 9fold...., - Rod M 15:37:32 01/31/03 (2)

Re: Psst, 9fold...., - 9fold 04:47:17 02/01/03 (1)

Re: Psst, 9fold...., - Rod M 08:20:58 02/01/03 (0)

keep grasping for straws - rafaello 14:30:48 01/30/03 (0)

Of course it does... isn't it the reason why all of you are here?!! (nt) - Eric LeRouge 14:21:53 01/30/03 (0)

Re: Have you noticed.....(wild conjectures wanted) - Tom Doherty 12:01:02 01/30/03 (0)

i haven't heard any shortcomings in either format ... - Christine Tham 11:47:39 01/30/03 (0)

Only a troll keeps.... - Frank 10:47:24 01/30/03 (46)

Watch it, pal ;-) - El Trollo Loco 01:24:14 01/31/03 (0)

Frank, is that why the S/N ratio is affected well below 10 kHz? - Jim Pearce 11:01:39 01/30/03 (11)

if the S/N ratio reduces from 130dB to 120dB (for example) ... - Christine Tham 11:51:24 01/30/03 (9)

How about well below 90 dB, Christine? - Jim Pearce 12:03:50 01/30/03 (8)

oh, by the way, even 90dB is actually a very *good* S/N ratio - Christine Tham 14:09:12 01/30/03 (5)

Re: oh, by the way, even 90dB is actually a very *good* S/N ratio - Jim Pearce 14:22:36 01/30/03 (4)

again, that is all as per spec and intentional ... - Christine Tham 14:33:51 01/30/03 (3)

On the contrary, the Stereophile tests show that... - Jim Pearce 07:18:11 01/31/03 (2)

no misunderstanding at all - Christine Tham 14:07:57 01/31/03 (0)

Not exactly... - Frank 07:32:40 01/31/03 (0)

i don't normally read stereophile, but ... - Christine Tham 13:52:03 01/30/03 (0)

See my post below - Frank 12:10:33 01/30/03 (0)

Exactly. - Frank 11:07:31 01/30/03 (0)

utter nonsense - tunenut 11:01:05 01/30/03 (32)

Evidence... - Frank 11:52:10 01/30/03 (1)

And - Frank 11:54:53 01/30/03 (0)

Reduced S/N ratio? - Jim Pearce 11:24:36 01/30/03 (29)

can you give me a link to these charts? - tunenut 11:32:37 01/30/03 (28)

Stereophile.com - Jim Pearce 11:48:08 01/30/03 (27)

I looked at the 777 review... - tunenut 12:58:58 01/30/03 (26)

It is the noise level that I'm looking at. - Jim Pearce 14:25:21 01/30/03 (4)

I will need to think about this... - tunenut 14:48:45 01/30/03 (0)

Just compare the graph's - Frank 14:40:50 01/30/03 (2)

Re: Just compare the graph's - Jim Pearce 08:08:54 01/31/03 (1)

Re: Just compare the graph's - John Kotches 07:19:21 02/01/03 (0)

Re: I looked at the 777 review... - Frank 13:16:17 01/30/03 (20)

same thing is happening on the regular CD player... - tunenut 13:38:06 01/30/03 (19)

No the signal is comming from a sacd disc and not... - Frank 13:50:32 01/30/03 (18)

the Meridian 508.24 CD player shows the same thing... - tunenut 14:03:10 01/30/03 (17)

They tell why on the same page - Frank 14:44:03 01/30/03 (16)

here is the correct reason... - tunenut 16:57:14 01/30/03 (14)

No, - Frank 03:01:56 01/31/03 (0)

Yes and no. - Jim Pearce 20:31:48 01/30/03 (9)

I am only talking about CD players now... - tunenut 21:05:54 01/30/03 (8)

It makes no sense... - Frank 04:39:29 01/31/03 (1)

Re: It makes no sense... - Jim Pearce 08:01:45 01/31/03 (0)

Agreed. - Jim Pearce 21:15:17 01/30/03 (5)

The DSD sample rate for the sacd implementation - Frank 03:13:04 01/31/03 (0)

don't know - tunenut 21:22:35 01/30/03 (3)

The obvious conclusions are.. - Jim Pearce 21:40:37 01/30/03 (2)

here is the best I can do right now... - tunenut 21:54:11 01/30/03 (1)

JA is going to write a series of articles on the tests. - Jim Pearce 22:19:10 01/30/03 (0)

thank you - that makes sense - Christine Tham 18:21:26 01/30/03 (2)

That's right Christine, they're just graphs of the.. - Jim Pearce 20:44:21 01/30/03 (1)

can you please go easy on the sarcasm? - Christine Tham 21:39:58 01/30/03 (0)

Re: They tell why on the same page - John Kotches 15:54:24 01/30/03 (0)

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Re: oh, by the way, even 90dB is actually a very *good* S/N ratio - Jim Pearce 14:22:36 01/30/03 (4)

again, that is all as per spec and intentional ... - Christine Tham 14:33:51 01/30/03 (3)

On the contrary, the Stereophile tests show that... - Jim Pearce 07:18:11 01/31/03 (2)

no misunderstanding at all - Christine Tham 14:07:57 01/31/03 (0)

Not exactly... - Frank 07:32:40 01/31/03 (0)