In Reply to: RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing posted by hahax@verizon.net on November 28, 2016 at 10:38:17:
"what are you in audio for?"
To enjoy recordings of music. To get the best aesthetic experience from that.
"you're wasting your time."
I assure you I am not. I have had years of great pleasure from audio. How could that be a waste of time? Because *you* don't agree with my approach?
"go buy a system colored like you want it and just listen to whatever kind of music you want."
That's what I have done. That's actually what most subjectivists have done. But they have, in most cases, also wrongly convinced themselves that their choices were for "more accurate" gear when in fact it all too often was for far more colored gear. It is an inevitable mistake one makes when they conflate the subjective sense of realism with objective technical accuracy.
"And both JGH and HP did know what music sounded like. They both attended live concerts, mainly classical. And JGH did extensive recording. What's your claim to expertise?"
You can't speak for them. If they ever claimed that they knew what "THE sound of live music" was I'd call them on it because that is BS. As I have already clearly stated, there is no such singular thing as THE sound of live music. Live music has a multitude of sounds, many of which are not good. Live per se is no acid test for SQ.
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- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - Analog Scott 11:22:41 11/28/16 (56)
- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - hahax@verizon.net 12:26:24 11/28/16 (2)
- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - Analog Scott 13:01:15 11/28/16 (1)
- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - hahax@verizon.net 06:17:29 11/29/16 (0)
- Sure there is - E-Stat 12:25:52 11/28/16 (52)
- And hearing his systems convinced me that we could get close at times. - Analog Scott 13:11:04 11/28/16 (18)
- How? - E-Stat 13:29:25 11/28/16 (17)
- RE: How? - Analog Scott 14:24:50 11/28/16 (16)
- RE: How? - E-Stat 14:49:26 11/28/16 (15)
- Three dimensional space - Analog Scott 17:30:20 11/28/16 (14)
- RE: Three dimensional space - E-Stat 19:01:09 11/28/16 (13)
- RE: Three dimensional space - Analog Scott 19:20:59 11/28/16 (12)
- RE: Three dimensional space - morricab 07:29:51 12/01/16 (6)
- RE: Three dimensional space - A.Wayne 10:02:22 12/06/16 (2)
- EQing? - Analog Scott 13:40:23 12/06/16 (1)
- RE: EQing? - Inmate51 21:32:21 12/31/16 (0)
- RE: Three dimensional space - Analog Scott 08:00:28 12/01/16 (2)
- RE: Three dimensional space - morricab 12:47:29 12/01/16 (1)
- RE: Three dimensional space - Analog Scott 14:35:18 12/01/16 (0)
- RE: Three dimensional space - E-Stat 05:47:33 11/29/16 (4)
- I have quite a few recordings that work to the contrary. - Analog Scott 08:10:42 11/29/16 (3)
- RE: I have quite a few recordings that work to the contrary. - E-Stat 08:24:54 11/29/16 (2)
- RE: I have quite a few recordings that work to the contrary. - Analog Scott 14:34:20 11/29/16 (1)
- "I prefer less realistic more palpable imaging" - E-Stat 15:00:28 11/29/16 (0)
- RE: Sure there is - Analog Scott 12:58:07 11/28/16 (32)
- RE: Sure there is - E-Stat 13:23:49 11/28/16 (31)
- "Any facsimile of a live experience works for me." - Analog Scott 13:29:48 11/28/16 (30)
- Fortunately - E-Stat 13:35:12 11/28/16 (29)
- " That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - Analog Scott 14:30:36 11/28/16 (28)
- RE: " That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - ahendler 06:27:20 11/29/16 (6)
- RE: " That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - Analog Scott 10:10:45 11/29/16 (5)
- And yet... - E-Stat 11:01:43 11/29/16 (1)
- RE: And yet... - Analog Scott 13:13:45 11/29/16 (0)
- RE: " That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - ahendler 10:35:41 11/29/16 (2)
- "I know crap when I hear it" - Analog Scott 13:17:43 11/29/16 (1)
- RE: "I know crap when I hear it" - ahendler 14:42:31 11/29/16 (0)
- RE: " That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - E-Stat 14:42:08 11/28/16 (20)
- RE: "That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - Analog Scott 17:20:44 11/28/16 (19)
- "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - E-Stat 19:04:25 11/28/16 (18)
- RE: "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - Analog Scott 08:38:18 12/01/16 (17)
- RE: "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - E-Stat 10:18:43 12/01/16 (16)
- RE: "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - Analog Scott 14:40:50 12/01/16 (15)
- RE: "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - E-Stat 15:24:45 12/01/16 (14)
- RE: "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - Analog Scott 16:10:57 12/01/16 (13)
- I'm going to end - E-Stat 16:21:16 12/01/16 (12)
- I figured as much - Analog Scott 16:36:22 12/01/16 (11)
- Once you turned - E-Stat 06:33:34 12/03/16 (10)
- Still dodging the questions. Nice try - Analog Scott 09:01:37 12/03/16 (9)
- I couldn't care less about your question - E-Stat 09:42:18 12/03/16 (8)
- Then why do you stay in the conversation? - Analog Scott 10:03:46 12/03/16 (7)
- Remind you - E-Stat 10:19:29 12/03/16 (6)
- Yet another post and no discussion about the subject. I admire your commitment to avoiding the subect - Analog Scott 10:34:05 12/03/16 (5)
- Subject was over long ago! - E-Stat 10:40:54 12/03/16 (4)
- and yet you keep posting and keep avoiding it at the same time - Analog Scott 10:52:01 12/03/16 (3)
- I enjoy humor! - E-Stat 11:06:30 12/03/16 (2)
- I enjoy humor too. - Analog Scott 11:34:26 12/03/16 (1)
- RE: I enjoy humor too. - E-Stat 12:03:23 12/03/16 (0)