In Reply to: RE: Pretty much everything you said here is wrong. posted by hahax@verizon.net on November 28, 2016 at 06:08:31:
It's like talking about "the flavor of food." Ther is no singular thing that is the sound of live music. The sound of live music runs the gamut of amazing to total crap. If JGH and HP really thought that this was some kind of reference then they clearly lacked meaningful experience with live music. 10th row center at Disney Hall with the Berlin Phil playing is no more live, and no more real than listening to a high school band from the far corner of the high school auditorium. Those "live experiences" those two versions of the "sound of live music" are no more or less real than the other. But they could not be more different. You can see the same live concert from two very different seats in the same concert hall and get two very very different sounds and experiences. This idea that there is some reference there is ridiculous.
And as for hearing what is on the recording...recordings have no intrinsic sound. You can't hear what is on the recording without coloring it with a playback system and the idea that your system will match that which was used to master any recording is pretty much nil. But if you are willing to listen to shit sound with the belief that there is some higher cause with "accuracy" is your choice. I'd rather have it sound good.
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- "The live experience" There is no such thing - Analog Scott 10:27:24 11/28/16 (64)
- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - ahendler 06:20:13 11/29/16 (1)
- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - Analog Scott 06:32:09 11/29/16 (0)
- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - hahax@verizon.net 10:38:17 11/28/16 (61)
- here is a thought experiment for you. Lets start by looking at accuracy in audio - Analog Scott 11:30:39 11/28/16 (3)
- Goosebump quotient. Thrill of hearing new, better things in a favorite recording... nt - Smelly_Socks 20:28:16 11/28/16 (0)
- RE: here is a thought experiment for you. Lets start by looking at accuracy in audio - hahax@verizon.net 12:28:09 11/28/16 (1)
- RE: here is a thought experiment for you. Lets start by looking at accuracy in audio - Analog Scott 13:05:26 11/28/16 (0)
- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - Analog Scott 11:22:41 11/28/16 (56)
- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - hahax@verizon.net 12:26:24 11/28/16 (2)
- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - Analog Scott 13:01:15 11/28/16 (1)
- RE: "The live experience" There is no such thing - hahax@verizon.net 06:17:29 11/29/16 (0)
- Sure there is - E-Stat 12:25:52 11/28/16 (52)
- And hearing his systems convinced me that we could get close at times. - Analog Scott 13:11:04 11/28/16 (18)
- How? - E-Stat 13:29:25 11/28/16 (17)
- RE: How? - Analog Scott 14:24:50 11/28/16 (16)
- RE: How? - E-Stat 14:49:26 11/28/16 (15)
- Three dimensional space - Analog Scott 17:30:20 11/28/16 (14)
- RE: Three dimensional space - E-Stat 19:01:09 11/28/16 (13)
- RE: Three dimensional space - Analog Scott 19:20:59 11/28/16 (12)
- RE: Three dimensional space - morricab 07:29:51 12/01/16 (6)
- RE: Three dimensional space - A.Wayne 10:02:22 12/06/16 (2)
- EQing? - Analog Scott 13:40:23 12/06/16 (1)
- RE: EQing? - Inmate51 21:32:21 12/31/16 (0)
- RE: Three dimensional space - Analog Scott 08:00:28 12/01/16 (2)
- RE: Three dimensional space - morricab 12:47:29 12/01/16 (1)
- RE: Three dimensional space - Analog Scott 14:35:18 12/01/16 (0)
- RE: Three dimensional space - E-Stat 05:47:33 11/29/16 (4)
- I have quite a few recordings that work to the contrary. - Analog Scott 08:10:42 11/29/16 (3)
- RE: I have quite a few recordings that work to the contrary. - E-Stat 08:24:54 11/29/16 (2)
- RE: I have quite a few recordings that work to the contrary. - Analog Scott 14:34:20 11/29/16 (1)
- "I prefer less realistic more palpable imaging" - E-Stat 15:00:28 11/29/16 (0)
- RE: Sure there is - Analog Scott 12:58:07 11/28/16 (32)
- RE: Sure there is - E-Stat 13:23:49 11/28/16 (31)
- "Any facsimile of a live experience works for me." - Analog Scott 13:29:48 11/28/16 (30)
- Fortunately - E-Stat 13:35:12 11/28/16 (29)
- " That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - Analog Scott 14:30:36 11/28/16 (28)
- RE: " That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - ahendler 06:27:20 11/29/16 (6)
- RE: " That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - Analog Scott 10:10:45 11/29/16 (5)
- And yet... - E-Stat 11:01:43 11/29/16 (1)
- RE: And yet... - Analog Scott 13:13:45 11/29/16 (0)
- RE: " That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - ahendler 10:35:41 11/29/16 (2)
- "I know crap when I hear it" - Analog Scott 13:17:43 11/29/16 (1)
- RE: "I know crap when I hear it" - ahendler 14:42:31 11/29/16 (0)
- RE: " That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - E-Stat 14:42:08 11/28/16 (20)
- RE: "That assertion has nothing to do with either HP's concept or what I use as a reference." - Analog Scott 17:20:44 11/28/16 (19)
- "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - E-Stat 19:04:25 11/28/16 (18)
- RE: "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - Analog Scott 08:38:18 12/01/16 (17)
- RE: "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - E-Stat 10:18:43 12/01/16 (16)
- RE: "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - Analog Scott 14:40:50 12/01/16 (15)
- RE: "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - E-Stat 15:24:45 12/01/16 (14)
- RE: "It was painfully overloaded by the piano." - Analog Scott 16:10:57 12/01/16 (13)
- I'm going to end - E-Stat 16:21:16 12/01/16 (12)
- I figured as much - Analog Scott 16:36:22 12/01/16 (11)
- Once you turned - E-Stat 06:33:34 12/03/16 (10)
- Still dodging the questions. Nice try - Analog Scott 09:01:37 12/03/16 (9)
- I couldn't care less about your question - E-Stat 09:42:18 12/03/16 (8)
- Then why do you stay in the conversation? - Analog Scott 10:03:46 12/03/16 (7)
- Remind you - E-Stat 10:19:29 12/03/16 (6)
- Yet another post and no discussion about the subject. I admire your commitment to avoiding the subect - Analog Scott 10:34:05 12/03/16 (5)
- Subject was over long ago! - E-Stat 10:40:54 12/03/16 (4)
- and yet you keep posting and keep avoiding it at the same time - Analog Scott 10:52:01 12/03/16 (3)
- I enjoy humor! - E-Stat 11:06:30 12/03/16 (2)
- I enjoy humor too. - Analog Scott 11:34:26 12/03/16 (1)
- RE: I enjoy humor too. - E-Stat 12:03:23 12/03/16 (0)