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RE: Pretty much everything you said here is wrong.

"He could be talking about the accurate reproduction of the recording he is listening too whether a vinyl record, a cd/sacd or a digital file. If that is what he means we could have a discussion."

1. If that is what he is talking about then he is off topic.


2. What are you talking about? Are you talking about the accuracy these various media offer in reproducing the signal they are fed? Or are you talking about what they "sound like"? Two very different discussions. Yes, we could have a discussion about the objective accuracy vinyl and CDs/SACDs offer in comparison to the signal they are fed. The vinyl is objectively less accurate. Both in it's technical measurements and in it's audible distortions. And there is where that discussion starts.

Now if we are going to have a discussion as to which sounds subjectively better it's a very different discussion. Personally, on my vinyl playback gear I very much prefer sound of the vinyl.



"The problem is who is to say what the recording should sound like."



That does seem to be an on going debate in and of itself.



"Again, this is a subjective hobby which starts in the studio and ends with the listener. JGH and HP both who I admired a lot ignored a lot to try to advance the hobby. Nothing wrong in that. Good listening"



Yes!!! It is subjective. But I think there is this huge myth in audiophilia about accuracy being the goal of audio. There is no attempt built into the basic design of stereo recording and playback to actually be an accurate reconstruction of the original waveform present in the original sound space. It's an absurd idea. The design of stereo recording and playback was to create an *aural illusion* of accuracy to that original event from a specific aural perspective. two very very different design goals. And when one fully grasps that idea, that fundamental difference, then one can understand why an obsession with objective accuracy within each link in the audio chain is only valuable in so far as it serves the aural illusion. Then it also becomes possible to understand that in some cases some inaccuracies actually do a better job of creating the aural illusion.

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