In Reply to: surrogates posted by fstein on November 10, 2015 at 20:40:27:
Same for Niacin, which in large doses increases HDL but to little or no clinical benefit, Folate along with vitamins B6 and B12 which can lower homocysteine levels, a marker for inflamation, but NOT reduce the inflammation which causes elevated homocysteine levels in the first plase, and so it goes.
Don't get me started on c-reactive protein and the various ways of 'reducing' it.
Truth be told, we don't really know why Atorvastatin (Lipitor) seems to have outcomes superior to other statins as a search of the literature seems to suggest. Except, of course, if just lowering cholesterol is NOT the end point we should be looking at. ;-)
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