In Reply to: surrogates posted by fstein on November 10, 2015 at 20:40:27:
of finding meaningful measurements that truly correlate to the complex process of hearing music is a noble one. Maybe someday we'll get there. The only way to achieve that goal is to push forward and continue to provide the most thorough examination of which measurements illuminate our understanding with knowledge as opposed to those which simply generate data. And to develop new ones that fill in current gaps.
Richard Heyser, JPL scientist and engineer extraordinaire made the following observation in an article in Audio Magazine:
"I claim that it should be possible to measure audio systems and have those measurements correlate with what we hear out of those systems. We are not doing that now. Our measurements are more precise than ever, but our understanding of what those measurements mean to the way a system "sounds" is still hazy.
I further assert that we are locked into that dilemma because we do not truly understand the meaning of those technical concepts which we now use. I don't think I can be more blunt about the matter."
Well said, sir. JA, stay the course.
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Follow Ups
- The pursuit - E-Stat 06:41:45 11/11/15 (21)
- RE: The pursuit - Pat D 17:24:05 11/11/15 (20)
- By all means - E-Stat 17:35:39 11/11/15 (19)
- RE: By all means - Pat D 16:01:12 11/12/15 (18)
- RE: By all means - Dave_K 07:21:18 11/13/15 (3)
- RE: By all means - Pat D 12:55:30 11/16/15 (2)
- Harmonic distortion is non-linear distortion - Dave_K 19:58:40 11/16/15 (1)
- RE: Harmonic distortion is non-linear distortion - Pat D 15:02:36 11/18/15 (0)
- Then... - E-Stat 16:15:35 11/12/15 (13)
- RE: Then... - Pat D 20:18:28 11/12/15 (12)
- Completely expected - E-Stat 06:03:45 11/13/15 (11)
- RE: Completely expected - Pat D 13:46:40 11/16/15 (10)
- At the expense of observing the obvious - E-Stat 14:15:06 11/16/15 (8)
- RE: At the expense of observing the obvious - Pat D 16:51:43 11/16/15 (7)
- RE: At the expense of observing the obvious - E-Stat 17:17:44 11/16/15 (6)
- RE: At the expense of observing the obvious - Pat D 15:06:08 11/18/15 (5)
- You either hear differences - E-Stat 15:33:06 11/18/15 (4)
- RE: You either hear differences - Pat D 18:06:55 11/19/15 (3)
- RE: You either hear differences - E-Stat 09:43:30 11/20/15 (2)
- RE: You either hear differences - Pat D 18:25:42 11/20/15 (1)
- Stay comfortable - E-Stat 06:23:16 11/21/15 (0)
- Interesting to note in your linked thread that more than one EE made the comment that harmonic distortion - kuribo 14:07:44 11/16/15 (0)