In Reply to: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 posted by jult52 on June 14, 2012 at 10:25:45:
Essentially, 10 Audio (Jerry Siegal) is incompetent and unethical.
He panned a preamp of ours, not because it was noisy (he owned it for 7 years) but because I called him out when he reviewed one of our kit-built amps that he had bought used. He reviewed it as if it was the latest version of our fully-optioned amps factory-assembled. The amp he reviewed was a rat's nest of construction inside and was not representative of our gear to say the least. I'm not making this stuff up, when he got called out it was on this website.
When confronted with this, he changed the review of our preamp from one that was very good to bad, and trumped up some noise complaints and the like, none of which were true.
Bottom line is, 10 Audio should not be taken seriously by anyone. This is a person that suffers from what I have come to call 'AGS' - Audiophile Guru Syndrome- if it did not issue from his mouth, it is not the Gospel. Anyone who gets to the point that they cannot admit when they have made a mistake is someone who is at risk of AGS. Credibility thus suffers!
The 'bad review' point I am making is that there are politics that can influence whether the review is good or bad, which is something that should never happen. Thing is, you never know what is going on- did he get a bad sample, is he allowing his mood to influence the outcome, is he doing things that are outright unethical as he did with us? Anytime you see a bad review you have to ask these questions regardless of the source.
If it is genuinely bad, there simply should be no review at all. That is how the best players do it.
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Follow Ups
- 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - Ralph 10:16:21 06/21/12 (59)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - JerryS 07:02:17 06/27/12 (5)
- Posts of yours elsewhere on Audioasylum.co belie this. - Ralph 08:57:42 06/27/12 (4)
- yawn - JerryS 09:48:44 06/27/12 (3)
- sweet. Here's another link - Ralph 10:49:05 06/27/12 (2)
- Your vindictive, inaccurate, whining, petulant, outdated, smelly brown river of libelous personal attacks... - JerryS 14:57:31 06/29/12 (1)
- Seems you can't stick to your own word elsewhere on this site. - Ralph 15:57:34 06/29/12 (0)
- same experience - Grant 17:35:46 06/25/12 (2)
- RE: same experience - JerryS 07:40:06 06/27/12 (0)
- Yes, it seems that manufacturers need to be wary of him nt - Ralph 09:58:41 06/26/12 (0)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - bjh 10:50:28 06/25/12 (6)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - Ralph 12:33:07 06/25/12 (5)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - bjh 12:41:20 06/25/12 (4)
- My advice to you would be to learn some manners - Pinkus 11:19:02 06/26/12 (3)
- It has now been pointed out to him that the "Stereophile reviewer (Steven Stone)" who panned his preamp - bjh 09:42:09 06/27/12 (2)
- This stuff is all a matter of public record. - Ralph 13:11:11 06/28/12 (1)
- RE: This stuff is all a matter of public record. - Cpk 14:57:42 06/28/12 (0)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - John Atkinson 07:34:44 06/24/12 (19)
- FIXED - Jerry Seigel, B.S., MBA, age 57, Occupation: company president - JerryS 07:11:44 06/28/12 (1)
- RE: FIXED - Jerry Seigel, B.S., MBA, age 57, Occupation: company president - John Atkinson 04:33:49 06/29/12 (0)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - bjh 10:52:46 06/25/12 (0)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - Ralph 07:48:26 06/25/12 (2)
- Yet another example of you being WRONG, WRONG WRONG! - JerryS 08:34:48 06/28/12 (1)
- You can't ignore the truth of your own posts on this website. - Ralph 13:08:10 06/28/12 (0)
- Agree with exception to the omission of authoring being an error. - soulfood 08:46:55 06/24/12 (12)
- RE: Agree with exception to the omission of authoring being an error. - John Atkinson 11:38:57 06/24/12 (11)
- RE: Agree with exception to the omission of authoring being an error. - soulfood 11:47:23 06/24/12 (10)
- RE: Agree with exception to the omission of authoring being an error. - John Atkinson 14:59:21 06/24/12 (9)
- RE: Agree with exception to the omission of authoring being an error. - soulfood 15:52:44 06/24/12 (8)
- Names... - RGA 17:08:44 06/24/12 (7)
- RE: yes - Cpk 07:10:08 06/25/12 (0)
- RE: Names... - soulfood 18:55:26 06/24/12 (5)
- LOL - Nothing to gain! Absolutely!!! - JerryS 13:21:49 06/28/12 (0)
- Considering that all 10 Audio reviews are done by Jerry S, what are his "questionable review standards" ? nt - Rick W 09:33:11 06/25/12 (3)
- It depends. Is 'considering' a fact or the same as 'if'. -nt - soulfood 11:58:28 06/25/12 (2)
- Maybe you should check the site out before opining about his review standards. nt - Rick W 12:52:27 06/25/12 (1)
- Maybe, thanks. -nt - soulfood 13:11:52 06/25/12 (0)
- "If it is genuinely bad, there simply should be no review at all. " - volunteer 06:14:01 06/24/12 (22)
- IMO, a pan is more valuable than a rave to a potential buyer. - JerryS 09:20:50 06/29/12 (0)
- Yes- we want honest reviews... - Ralph 07:45:50 06/25/12 (16)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - Sstone8807@aol.com 08:03:32 08/22/14 (1)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - minimus 15:11:19 10/20/14 (0)
- He purchased the review sample !! - Shep 14:43:37 06/26/12 (2)
- RE: Yes, my memory is playing tricks... - Ralph 15:15:29 06/26/12 (1)
- Too Funny!!! nt - bjh 09:23:47 06/27/12 (0)
- Not sure I follow you here... - jamesgarvin 20:49:37 06/25/12 (2)
- Genuinely bad - Inmate51 23:26:21 06/25/12 (1)
- The problem here is that you have no good way to know - Ralph 10:03:04 06/26/12 (0)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - Linn 08:54:56 06/25/12 (1)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - Ralph 09:14:15 06/25/12 (0)
- Ralph, this statement is my only area of disagreement. - volunteer 08:19:22 06/25/12 (3)
- Yes, we may have to disagree on that - Ralph 09:29:19 06/25/12 (2)
- "I realized that bad reviews are often unethical," - volunteer 13:11:38 06/25/12 (1)
- RE: "I realized that bad reviews are often unethical," - Ralph 14:36:49 06/25/12 (0)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - rick_m 08:10:11 06/25/12 (1)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - Ralph 09:07:01 06/25/12 (0)
- First of all... - mkuller 14:03:14 06/24/12 (2)
- RE: First of all... - hahax@verizon.net 20:18:39 06/24/12 (0)
- "what if it's wrong?" - volunteer 14:11:02 06/24/12 (0)
- RE: "If it is genuinely bad, there simply should be no review at all. " - rick_m 08:08:47 06/24/12 (0)