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In Reply to: I think you... posted by mkuller on February 22, 2012 at 19:01:08:
an answer to my original question. To wit: How many years/decades has it been since Mr. Valin actually *paid* for a component? Since you and he worked for the same publication perhaps you can answer that. Moreover, can you or anyone on here cite another example of such extravagant corporate largesse being extended to a reviewer in *another* field? One thinks of exotic automobiles. Has any reviewer been driving a subsidized Porsche for years, that you're aware of? Lamborghini? Is Valin’s the *only* such grand accommodation of its kind or is this sort of thing commonplace amongst high-profile reviewers in other fields? I'm merely curious.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - The ethics of accepting products for review with the promise of advertising. - Analog Scott 10:49:22 02/22/12 (139)
- RE: The ethics of accepting products for review with the promise of advertising. - baka1969 10:50:33 03/09/12 (0)
- RE: The ethics of accepting products for review with the promise of advertising. - Wesley Miaw 14:07:40 03/07/12 (0)
- RE: The ethics of accepting products for review with the promise of advertising. - calloway 09:55:57 03/06/12 (1)
- RE: The ethics of accepting products for review with the promise of advertising. - John Atkinson 17:57:23 03/06/12 (0)
- Scott, mag and ezines are notthing more than industry support periodicals - Plinko 15:02:42 03/02/12 (3)
- RE: Scott, mag and ezines are notthing more than industry support periodicals - John Atkinson 17:50:03 03/06/12 (2)
- More lies about "apples vs. apples" product comparisons - joerosen1 03:15:45 04/18/12 (1)
- RE: More lies about "apples vs. apples" product comparisons - The Dill 09:57:05 04/18/12 (0)
- In my opinion there can be no ethical harmony between advertising and reviewing. - Norm 17:29:04 02/25/12 (9)
- RE: In my opinion there can be no ethical harmony between advertising and reviewing. - Beau 10:10:30 02/29/12 (7)
- RE: In my opinion there can be no ethical harmony between advertising and reviewing. - josh358 16:04:53 02/29/12 (4)
- Right you are! - Norm 06:27:58 03/02/12 (3)
- RE: Right you are! - josh358 14:56:36 03/02/12 (2)
- I think you are right that there are just so many manufacturers & few dealers - Norm 08:48:47 03/04/12 (1)
- RE: I think you are right that there are just so many manufacturers & few dealers - josh358 15:28:56 03/04/12 (0)
- RE: In my opinion there can be no ethical harmony between advertising and reviewing. - das@soundstage.com 10:59:04 02/29/12 (1)
- Yes, it is only one vehicle for getting a favorable review. - Norm 06:32:00 03/02/12 (0)
- RE: In my opinion there can be no ethical harmony between advertising and reviewing. - Gag Halfrunt 04:11:04 02/29/12 (0)
- RE: The ethics of accepting products for review with the promise of advertising. - JNS 12:32:51 02/25/12 (13)
- RE: The ethics of accepting products for review with the promise of advertising. - Maric 19:32:21 02/25/12 (0)
- "When a magazine depends almost solely on adv. dollars to survive this publication ceases to be objective" - Rob Doorack 17:58:05 02/25/12 (11)
- RE: "When a magazine depends almost solely on adv. dollars to survive this publication ceases to be objective" - plantsman 18:47:57 02/27/12 (9)
- "It is wired into their subconscious and in the air they breathe" - Rob Doorack 16:56:39 02/29/12 (8)
- RE: "It is wired into their subconscious and in the air they breathe" - plantsman 04:14:31 03/01/12 (7)
- Congratulations! - Rob Doorack 20:33:41 03/02/12 (4)
- Okay, I'm starting to lean toward simple - plantsman 02:42:56 03/03/12 (3)
- Shorter Plantsman: "I still can't explain how trade discounts cause false reviews" - Rob Doorack 18:32:55 03/03/12 (0)
- There are no unbiased experts. - Tony Lauck 15:08:56 03/03/12 (0)
- RE: Okay, I'm starting to lean toward simple - Analog Scott 09:31:15 03/03/12 (0)
- RE: "It is wired into their subconscious and in the air they breathe" - JNS 13:31:54 03/02/12 (1)
- RE: "It is wired into their subconscious and in the air they breathe" - Rob Doorack 19:28:39 03/02/12 (0)
- RE: "When a magazine depends almost solely on adv. dollars to survive this publication ceases to be objective" - sk 05:55:47 02/26/12 (0)
- Gosh, either buy the mag and read the articles or don't. Why question when you have a choice? nt - Pjay 15:19:36 02/24/12 (0)
- And you posted this here because... - mt10425 16:19:48 02/22/12 (0)
- I think you're overreacting 'cause of your low opinion of the guy. - Rick W 15:24:16 02/22/12 (17)
- RE: I think you're overreacting 'cause of your low opinion of the guy. - Analog Scott 16:45:50 02/22/12 (16)
- RE: I think you're overreacting 'cause of your low opinion of the guy. - jamesgarvin 17:14:17 02/22/12 (15)
- The thread initiated by theaudioscum@yahoo.com, aka - The Bored 19:55:42 02/22/12 (0)
- RE: I think you're overreacting 'cause of your low opinion of the guy. - regmac 18:45:15 02/22/12 (13)
- I think you... - mkuller 19:01:08 02/22/12 (12)
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- RE: I was hoping to get... - DAP 13:06:59 02/25/12 (1)
- RE: I was hoping to get... - josh358 16:13:12 02/29/12 (0)
- Obsession or... - mkuller 10:45:35 02/23/12 (7)
- As I said, I’m merely curious. You, however… - regmac 16:59:41 02/23/12 (6)
- Wow, Reggie... - mkuller 18:23:40 02/23/12 (5)
- RE: Wow, Reggie... - regmac 19:50:57 02/23/12 (4)
- That Valin controversy... - mkuller 09:21:45 02/24/12 (3)
- RE: That Valin controversy... - regmac 10:35:56 02/24/12 (2)
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- Poor Michael. Your problem is that you post so frequently you can't recall what you've written. - regmac 17:48:17 02/24/12 (0)
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- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - das@soundstage.com 12:08:25 02/23/12 (30)
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- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - jamesgarvin 08:01:42 02/28/12 (19)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - das@soundstage.com 10:05:14 02/28/12 (2)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - jamesgarvin 13:17:04 02/28/12 (1)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - das@soundstage.com 15:16:50 02/28/12 (0)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - Jive Turkey 08:58:48 02/28/12 (15)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - das@soundstage.com 10:10:06 02/28/12 (10)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - josh358 16:37:31 02/29/12 (9)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - das@soundstage.com 18:32:31 02/29/12 (8)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - josh358 19:56:33 02/29/12 (7)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - jamesgarvin 07:44:22 03/01/12 (2)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - josh358 16:09:35 03/02/12 (0)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - das@soundstage.com 10:20:08 03/01/12 (0)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - das@soundstage.com 05:03:29 03/01/12 (3)
- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - josh358 07:32:36 03/01/12 (2)
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- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - josh358 15:09:25 03/02/12 (0)
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- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - rick_m 10:16:07 02/28/12 (2)
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- RE: Print-zines, E-zines, size, policies, etc. - josh358 16:43:49 02/29/12 (0)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 07:29:37 02/23/12 (43)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - jamesgarvin 11:28:44 02/23/12 (41)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - josh358 14:11:31 02/24/12 (32)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 21:23:16 02/24/12 (31)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - John Atkinson 09:00:10 02/25/12 (20)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 20:01:25 02/25/12 (14)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - josh358 16:50:12 02/29/12 (0)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - tonepub@yahoo.com 21:17:22 02/25/12 (12)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 04:00:11 02/26/12 (0)
- "how about we set a few things straight?" - Analog Scott 00:26:49 02/26/12 (10)
- RE: "how about we set a few things straight?" - Just Listening 07:29:57 02/26/12 (0)
- RE: "how about we set a few things straight?" - tonepub@yahoo.com 07:00:05 02/26/12 (1)
- RE: "how about we set a few things straight?" - soulfood 10:41:54 02/26/12 (0)
- RE: "how about we set a few things straight?" - RGA 04:08:54 02/26/12 (6)
- RE: "how about we set a few things straight?" - Pat D 06:01:25 03/02/12 (0)
- RE: "how about we set a few things straight?" - Analog Scott 07:58:04 02/26/12 (3)
- RE: "how about we set a few things straight?" - RGA 18:15:49 02/26/12 (2)
- UHF is fun, but I don't consider their reviews reliable. - Pat D 05:56:30 03/02/12 (1)
- RE: UHF is fun, but I don't consider their reviews reliable. - RGA 02:03:14 03/05/12 (0)
- RE: "how about we set a few things straight?" - Jack Seaton 04:59:44 02/26/12 (0)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - JNS 12:20:39 02/25/12 (2)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - John Atkinson 13:27:23 02/25/12 (1)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 19:46:08 02/25/12 (0)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - Just Listening 10:50:23 02/25/12 (1)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - John Atkinson 12:14:14 02/25/12 (0)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - josh358 05:08:20 02/25/12 (7)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 07:01:48 02/25/12 (6)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - josh358 18:44:06 02/26/12 (2)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 16:35:05 02/27/12 (1)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - josh358 17:55:27 02/27/12 (0)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - jamesgarvin 15:11:12 02/25/12 (2)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 20:37:37 02/25/12 (1)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - josh358 18:51:40 02/26/12 (0)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - John Atkinson 04:52:00 02/25/12 (1)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 06:15:52 02/25/12 (0)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 19:14:48 02/23/12 (0)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - John Atkinson 14:59:08 02/23/12 (6)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - Just Listening 19:24:04 02/23/12 (5)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - Analog Scott 21:09:54 02/23/12 (4)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - Maric 20:22:30 02/24/12 (0)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 22:25:02 02/23/12 (2)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - Analog Scott 22:48:34 02/23/12 (1)
- RE: One of the problems with ezines... - RGA 21:14:16 02/24/12 (0)
- I don't believe that a one-man shop... - mkuller 10:54:50 02/23/12 (0)
- Advertising aside... - Jim Austin 12:00:36 02/22/12 (2)
- I questioned the same issue - 1973shovel 05:16:22 02/23/12 (0)
- RE: Advertising aside... - Analog Scott 12:11:43 02/22/12 (0)
- RE: The ethics of accepting products for review with the promise of advertising. - John Atkinson 11:11:46 02/22/12 (5)
- 21 years at S-phile (back in 2007...) I am getting OLD! - David S. 11:59:48 02/22/12 (2)
- RE: 21 years at S-phile (back in 2007...) I am getting OLD! - John Atkinson 15:16:49 02/22/12 (1)
- RE: 21 years at S-phile (back in 2007...) I am getting OLD! - Jive Turkey 17:31:20 02/22/12 (0)
- Thanks for addressing this. - Analog Scott 11:29:07 02/22/12 (1)
- RE: Thanks for addressing this. - John Atkinson 15:20:09 02/22/12 (0)
Follow Ups
- I was hoping to get... - regmac 08:20:39 02/23/12 (11)
- I heard from a friend in the auto industry, ... - Jack Seaton 04:47:13 02/26/12 (0)
- RE: I was hoping to get... - DAP 13:06:59 02/25/12 (1)
- RE: I was hoping to get... - josh358 16:13:12 02/29/12 (0)
- Obsession or... - mkuller 10:45:35 02/23/12 (7)
- As I said, I’m merely curious. You, however… - regmac 16:59:41 02/23/12 (6)
- Wow, Reggie... - mkuller 18:23:40 02/23/12 (5)
- RE: Wow, Reggie... - regmac 19:50:57 02/23/12 (4)
- That Valin controversy... - mkuller 09:21:45 02/24/12 (3)
- RE: That Valin controversy... - regmac 10:35:56 02/24/12 (2)
- I haven't... - mkuller 15:46:30 02/24/12 (1)
- Poor Michael. Your problem is that you post so frequently you can't recall what you've written. - regmac 17:48:17 02/24/12 (0)