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Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis

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Mikey is at it again with the Vinyl Mania.

http://www.musicangle.com/album.php?id=781&page=1

He says the original U.K. pressings are "better" than the new Beatle cd sets, minus the surface noise etc.

This is contrary to what the engineers have said in multiple interviews in Rolling Stone, British and American Hifi mangazines, and on the web.

I'll open the discussion. Any one agree? Disagree?

Follow Ups:

I will give you credit for this one, Mr. Harbeth. - Bruce Kendall 16:39:58 10/31/09 (2)
- Don't encourage him...(nt) - mkuller 10:23:10 11/02/09 (0)
- RE: I will give you credit for this one, Mr. Harbeth. - Spendor Harbeth 17:52:35 10/31/09 (0)
Has the industry lost its ability to creat or discover new art or is it all product? - Steyr 07:15:54 10/30/09 (7)
- The Beatles are nothing... how many versions of "Kind of Blue" do you have? - musetap 22:41:57 11/02/09 (0)
- Great post, but you're talking about the USA here - Sordidman 09:24:00 10/30/09 (0)
- RE: Has the industry lost its ability to creat or discover new art or is it all product? - kentaja 08:29:26 10/30/09 (4)
  - RE: Has the industry lost its ability to creat or discover new art or is it all product? - astralnavigator 10:17:43 10/30/09 (3)
    - RE: Has the industry lost its ability to creat or discover new art or is it all product? - kentaja 10:52:42 10/30/09 (2)
      - RE: Has the industry lost its ability to creat or discover new art or is it all product? - astralnavigator 13:57:39 10/30/09 (1)
        
        RE: Has the industry lost its ability to creat or discover new art or is it all product? - kentaja 14:48:01 10/30/09 (0)
A Michael Jackson Box set - Bill the K 21:13:44 10/29/09 (0)
I actually emailed Michael about the Beatles Reissues - Jeff Joseph 16:38:29 10/27/09 (26)
- So the Mono Box Set has stereo versions... - cdb 20:12:54 10/28/09 (0)
- Those comments really bring this issue to the fore - Sordidman 10:00:22 10/28/09 (4)
  - The remasters are not remixes, but are mastered from different mixes...(nt) - mkuller 10:52:27 10/28/09 (3)
    - No remasters are EVER remixes: hence the confusion -t - Sordidman 11:11:37 10/28/09 (2)
      - RE: No remasters are EVER remixes: hence the confusion -t - astralnavigator 11:44:16 10/28/09 (1)
        
        Heh, heh... "never say never" you're right of course, - "rarely" -t - Sordidman 12:13:34 10/28/09 (0)
- easier solution: - Jeff Joseph 04:12:20 10/28/09 (0)
- RE: I actually emailed Michael about the Beatles Reissues - Spendor Harbeth 16:44:58 10/27/09 (18)
  - Those statements are so absurd, in their silly speculation - Sordidman 10:35:11 10/28/09 (12)
    - RE: Those statements are so absurd, in their silly speculation - Spendor Harbeth 12:09:09 10/28/09 (7)
      - I am not puzzled - Sordidman 12:33:05 10/28/09 (6)
        
        RE: I am not puzzled - Spendor Harbeth 13:05:01 10/28/09 (2)
        
        What I would've said before........ - Sordidman 13:21:22 10/28/09 (1)
        
        RE: What I would've said before........ - Spendor Harbeth 13:23:49 10/28/09 (0)
        
        RE: I am not puzzled - Spendor Harbeth 12:37:29 10/28/09 (2)
        
        Ha! Maybe I am puzzled..... - Sordidman 13:14:22 10/28/09 (1)
        
        RE: Ha! Maybe I am puzzled..... - Spendor Harbeth 13:21:34 10/28/09 (0)
    - This is a very bizzare post... - astralnavigator 11:49:36 10/28/09 (3)
      - What I meant was.... - Sordidman 12:15:30 10/28/09 (0)
      - RE: This is a very bizzare post... - Spendor Harbeth 12:02:04 10/28/09 (1)
        
        RE: This is a very bizzare post... - astralnavigator 12:25:07 10/28/09 (0)
  - the are so right! - jdouglas51 10:07:50 10/28/09 (0)
  - RE: I actually emailed Michael about the Beatles Reissues - astralnavigator 17:10:53 10/27/09 (3)
    - they're only the ones that everyone loved in the u.s. - jdouglas51 10:10:23 10/28/09 (0)
    - RE: I actually emailed Michael about the Beatles Reissues - Spendor Harbeth 17:21:28 10/27/09 (0)
    - RE: I actually emailed Michael about the Beatles Reissues - Spendor Harbeth 17:17:36 10/27/09 (0)
RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Bruce from DC 15:52:47 10/27/09 (12)
- RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Spendor Harbeth 16:32:32 10/27/09 (11)
  - so the actual mstering engineer is dogmatic and just plain silly? - Analog Scott 13:12:28 10/28/09 (0)
  - RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - astralnavigator 17:08:02 10/27/09 (9)
    - RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Spendor Harbeth 17:14:49 10/27/09 (8)
      - RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - astralnavigator 17:45:43 10/27/09 (7)
        
        RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Spendor Harbeth 17:48:47 10/27/09 (6)
        
        Astral Navigator has a great understanding of the process IMO - Sordidman 10:44:03 10/28/09 (5)
        
        RE: Astral Navigator has a great understanding of the process IMO - Spendor Harbeth 10:54:03 10/28/09 (4)
        
        10-4 I agree, - but.......... - Sordidman 11:18:43 10/28/09 (2)
        
        RE: 10-4 I agree, - but.......... - astralnavigator 11:57:22 10/28/09 (0)
        
        RE: 10-4 I agree, - but.......... - Spendor Harbeth 11:28:33 10/28/09 (0)
        
        "However, I have been in recording studios many times." Ah! so you're a Pizza Delivery Boy. - bjh 11:12:28 10/28/09 (0)
Yeah I disagree. You might want to check your facts - Analog Scott 08:45:11 10/27/09 (14)
- Stereo transfers subjected to "some limiting" (compression) to "stand against some of the material today". - bjh 09:27:33 10/27/09 (8)
  - RE: Stereo transfers subjected to "some limiting" (compression) to "stand against some of the material today". - astralnavigator 10:17:04 10/27/09 (7)
    - RE: Stereo transfers subjected to "some limiting" (compression) to "stand against some of the material today". - bjh 10:22:25 10/27/09 (6)
      - I saw some scope traces.... - mkuller 14:59:57 10/27/09 (1)
        
        Good news. nt - bjh 17:41:53 10/27/09 (0)
      - RE: Stereo transfers subjected to "some limiting" (compression) to "stand against some of the material today". - astralnavigator 13:18:27 10/27/09 (3)
        
        "I like the remasters ..." I suspect I would like them as well, after all - bjh 13:43:44 10/27/09 (2)
        
        RE: "I like the remasters ..." I suspect I would like them as well, after all - astralnavigator 15:22:12 10/27/09 (1)
        
        Cool, works for me :) - bjh 17:41:04 10/27/09 (0)
- RE: Yeah I disagree. You might want to check your facts - Spendor Harbeth 09:14:48 10/27/09 (4)
  - "That is not what he said in Hifi News, The London Times, Rolling Stone, and 4 other publications. " - Analog Scott 10:46:09 10/27/09 (0)
  - Perhaps you can produce evidence? - bjh 10:00:28 10/27/09 (2)
    - RE: Perhaps you can produce evidence? - Spendor Harbeth 11:13:06 10/27/09 (1)
      - You merely making yourself out to be a fool. - bjh 11:15:12 10/27/09 (0)
Might be time to host your own forum - Steyr 07:15:59 10/27/09 (1)
- Couldn't agree more... nt - jbcortes 07:48:54 10/27/09 (0)
Hard to treat either side objectively - Ross 06:57:17 10/27/09 (3)
- Sad but true. Digital rigs that can approach analogue sound cost $10K and up, way up Nt - Frihed89 10:25:51 10/27/09 (0)
- RE: Hard to treat either side objectively - Spendor Harbeth 09:12:26 10/27/09 (1)
  - bigger than Jesus - jdouglas51 11:06:38 10/27/09 (0)
RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Dave Garretson 02:28:26 10/27/09 (11)
- RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Analog Scott 08:49:58 10/27/09 (10)
  - RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Dave Garretson 09:42:29 10/27/09 (9)
    - RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Analog Scott 10:54:11 10/27/09 (8)
      - Equipment vs. Music - Dave Garretson 13:11:44 10/27/09 (7)
        
        RE: Equipment vs. Music - Analog Scott 13:38:08 10/28/09 (6)
        
        RE: Equipment vs. Music - Dave Garretson 15:08:47 10/28/09 (5)
        
        RE: Equipment vs. Music - Analog Scott 15:51:51 10/28/09 (4)
        
        RE: Equipment vs. Music - Dave Garretson 17:37:11 10/28/09 (3)
        
        RE: Equipment vs. Music - Analog Scott 19:05:45 10/28/09 (2)
        
        RE: Equipment vs. Music - Dave Garretson 04:35:02 10/29/09 (1)
        
        RE: Equipment vs. Music - Analog Scott 10:28:05 10/29/09 (0)
I'll go ahead and fill in the oddly missing context. - powermatic 21:01:47 10/26/09 (9)
- RE: I'll go ahead and fill in the oddly missing context. - Spendor Harbeth 21:19:35 10/26/09 (8)
  - Grinding the Invisible Axe. - powermatic 21:58:30 10/26/09 (7)
    - RE: Grinding the Invisible Axe. - Spendor Harbeth 22:17:09 10/26/09 (6)
      - "The difference is the insufferable smugness. " - robert young 03:52:59 10/27/09 (5)
        
        RE: "The difference is the insufferable smugness. " - Spendor Harbeth 09:06:03 10/27/09 (3)
        
        Hint ... - bjh 10:43:36 10/27/09 (2)
        
        RE: Hint ... - Spendor Harbeth 11:09:18 10/27/09 (1)
        
        Wasted effort on my part ... Quelle surprise! nt - bjh 11:10:51 10/27/09 (0)
        
        RE: "The difference is the insufferable smugness. " - Stephæn 06:59:52 10/27/09 (0)
He prefers the vinyl huh?... whoda thunk it?... - musetap 16:58:30 10/26/09 (1)
- RE: He prefers the vinyl huh?... whoda thunk it?... - pdownard@fasken.com 18:10:00 10/26/09 (0)
RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Squonk 16:31:19 10/26/09 (5)
- RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Spendor Harbeth 17:14:36 10/26/09 (4)
  - lol - Squonk 00:38:58 10/27/09 (1)
    - RE: lol - Spendor Harbeth 08:58:17 10/27/09 (0)
  - RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - lord addleford 18:00:32 10/26/09 (1)
    - RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Spendor Harbeth 18:08:58 10/26/09 (0)
RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - bjh 16:29:42 10/26/09 (0)
RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Spendor Harbeth 15:49:29 10/26/09 (0)
RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - jdouglas51 15:12:05 10/26/09 (7)
- RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - Spendor Harbeth 15:47:44 10/26/09 (6)
  - So you don't know personally, yet your OP has a certain derogatory bend. Go figure. LOL nt - bjh 16:31:15 10/26/09 (4)
    - RE: So you don't know personally, yet your OP has a certain derogatory bend. Go figure. LOL nt - Spendor Harbeth 17:05:34 10/26/09 (3)
      - Right, you have no idea. Thought so, thanks. nt - bjh 17:15:58 10/26/09 (2)
        
        RE: Right, you have no idea. Thought so, thanks. nt - Spendor Harbeth 17:18:24 10/26/09 (1)
        
        Oh, and I suppose you don't have a TT either. LOL nt - bjh 17:55:19 10/26/09 (0)
  - RE: Mikey-Beatle Box Analysis - jdouglas51 16:14:06 10/26/09 (0)

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