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There appears to be a building consensus on the Asylum that the Carver Professional ZR500, ZR1000, ZR1600 Tripath amps are remarkable. I think all Asylum reviewers and owners so far have described them as unexcelled in absolute audio terms (comparable to the PS Audio "Class A" amp reviewed recently in Stereophile), combining the best of tube with the best of solid state attributes, and outperforming ALL other power amps they've owned.And these Carver Pro Tripaths begin at about $500, and max out at under $1000! Then, today, I came across one Asylum commentator who agreed with this assessment, but based his agreement on his AudioSource 6.1T/6.2T Tripath amps. AudioSource is owned by Phoenix Gold, as is Carver Professional (apparently NO relation whatsoever to Bob Carver's audio companies), and it looks from AudioSource's website like the companies are really the same organization, e.g., they share a single V.P. of engineering.
Here are my questions: The AudioSource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath amps aren't available to consumers yet. But at least one inmate says he owns 'em already. How is that possible? And, regardless of how he got 'em, can we compare the Carver Pro to the Audiosource directly? A bunch of us would like to know whether to wait for the 6T series, because it has some advantages for the home audio enthusiast, notably, from the photos it looks like:
- It will be cheaper (about $350 for the equivalent of the ZR500!)
- It will have a variable headphone output (hopefully a "real" one!)
- It will have RCA inputs and normal speaker outputs (not Neutronik)
- It will be much, much cuter and smaller. Looks like it's about the size of two or three external modems taped together! (In fact, for minimalists and miniaturists like me, if the 6T is a winner, imagine the implications: My reference dream system could consist of two itty bitty black boxes -- the Placette Remote Volume Control, and a 6T -- plus an SACD source. The contrast with reference systems of yore boggles the mind!)So consider this an appeal for an in-depth comparison of the 6T series to the ZR series, a judgement as to whether they're comparable, and additional info on when the 6T's might become available to consumers...
The specs are slightly different, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything because the 6T specs on the web may be prototype specs. These could be the exact same amps, packaged differently.
It boggles the mind to think that we are discussing the possibility of reference grade 100W power amps for $350. Exciting times, these!
Kent
P.S. The 6.XT series amps aren't even discussed on AudioSource's website yet. But one vendor has pre-release publicity info on his website. See http://www.sonic.net/soundscape/as/modseps.html. BTW, I have no affiliation whatsoever with any dealer, manufacturer, etc. etc.
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Topic - Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - Kent2003 13:21:35 09/11/03 (66)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - JCC 12:17:40 09/13/03 (9)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - Kent2003 12:40:48 09/13/03 (8)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - JCC 12:57:03 09/13/03 (7)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - JCC 14:20:47 09/13/03 (6)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - Stercom 10:47:09 09/14/03 (5)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - JCC 14:18:28 09/14/03 (0)
- AudioSource Not Releasing T-Amps - DrD 11:30:05 09/14/03 (3)
- What are Pro ZR audible weak points? How about fan noise? - geeber 15:46:47 09/16/03 (1)
- Re: What are Pro ZR audible weak points? How about fan noise? - Kent2003 18:00:18 09/16/03 (0)
- Re: AudioSource Not Releasing T-Amps - Stercom 12:27:40 09/14/03 (0)
- Carver Is Not Carver Professional - DrD 08:59:01 09/12/03 (0)
- How do these sound compared to amps from sunfire? - Isaiah 07:27:43 09/12/03 (3)
- Re: How do these sound compared to amps from sunfire? - Roger 20:24:39 09/23/03 (0)
- Re: How do these sound compared to amps from sunfire? - JCC 14:38:07 09/13/03 (0)
- Re: How do these sound compared to amps from sunfire? - Stercom 07:50:14 09/12/03 (0)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - niws 07:11:47 09/12/03 (1)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - Rocky Bluff 09:45:00 09/16/03 (0)
- Audiosource 6.2T Tripath Amps - Stercom 06:33:29 09/12/03 (2)
- Here are the PhoenixGold/AudioSource exec addresses. Who's for a letter-writing campaign to get the 6 series reinstated? - Kent2003 07:31:26 09/12/03 (1)
- Re: Here are the PhoenixGold/AudioSource exec addresses. Who's for a letter-writing campaign to get the 6 series reinsta - Stercom 09:08:27 09/12/03 (0)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - DrD 19:17:08 09/11/03 (16)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - Kent2003 19:37:01 09/11/03 (15)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - JCC 12:34:13 09/13/03 (0)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - DrD 21:06:39 09/11/03 (13)
- Wait, you even love the Sony AVD Tripath implementation?? - Kent2003 22:41:17 09/11/03 (9)
- The Sony are NOT using Tripath in the AVD series!!! - Ric Schultz 22:30:31 09/15/03 (0)
- Re: Wait, you even love the Sony AVD Tripath implementation?? - DrD 23:01:32 09/11/03 (7)
- Re: Wait, you even love the Sony AVD Tripath implementation?? - SoftwireEngineer 15:23:01 09/12/03 (2)
- Re: Wait, you even love the Sony AVD Tripath implementation?? - DrD 15:51:14 09/12/03 (1)
- Re: Wait, you even love the Sony AVD Tripath implementation?? - Kent2003 17:22:58 09/12/03 (0)
- Sony's replacement for the C70ES should be avail in two weeks, and it's a beaut! - Kent2003 09:15:12 09/12/03 (0)
- That's exciting to hear! But... do the Sonys have even minimally acceptable bass management for all sources? - Kent2003 09:03:56 09/12/03 (2)
- Re: That's exciting to hear! But... do the Sonys have even minimally acceptable bass management for all sources? - DrD 09:57:47 09/12/03 (1)
- Re: That's exciting to hear! But... do the Sonys have even minimally acceptable bass management for all sources? - Kent2003 17:08:35 09/12/03 (0)
- Hmmm...I just realized: my system will be a triamped digital system before the end of the month. - Kent2003 21:48:46 09/11/03 (0)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - Kent2003 21:32:26 09/11/03 (1)
- Re: Carver Pro ZR versus Audiosource 6.1T / 6.2T Tripath Amps - DrD 22:50:29 09/11/03 (0)
- Digital is the future - Jon L 16:33:50 09/11/03 (23)
- Why would a vinyl lover pollute their analog collection? No thanks. nt - Rick W 07:36:41 09/16/03 (0)
- Re: Digital is the future - Canadian Canuck 07:23:56 09/12/03 (21)
- Analoge is not dead yet! - DKG 14:19:05 09/12/03 (0)
- Re: Digital is the future - DrD 08:52:56 09/12/03 (19)
- Which amps use Tripath modules? - AbeCollins 20:25:27 09/12/03 (18)
- Re: Which amps use Tripath modules? - DrD 21:51:01 09/12/03 (17)
- Very interesting.... ;-) - AbeCollins 10:40:26 09/14/03 (1)
- Re: Very interesting.... ;-) - DrD 11:37:37 09/14/03 (0)
- Sony=Tripath?!? - Ric Schultz 10:55:52 09/13/03 (1)
- Sony does not use Tripath!!!! See post above NT - Ric Schultz 22:32:42 09/15/03 (0)
- DrD, I suspect there are more... (Re: Which amps use Tripath modules?) - Kent2003 04:13:44 09/13/03 (12)
- Tripath for the whole world....not! - Ric Schultz 11:19:12 09/13/03 (11)
- Mea Culpa! (Re: Tripath for the whole world....not!) - Kent2003 18:14:10 09/16/03 (0)
- Re: Tripath for the whole world....not! - DrD 11:34:01 09/13/03 (9)
- Re: Tripath for the whole world....not! - Ric Schultz 13:05:31 09/13/03 (8)
- Re: Tripath for the whole world....not! - DrD 16:37:34 09/13/03 (7)
- Re: Tripath for the whole world....not! - DrD 22:23:22 09/13/03 (3)
- Re: Tripath for the whole world....not! - Kent2003 18:17:51 09/16/03 (0)
- Re: Tripath for the whole world....not! - Ric Schultz 00:23:23 09/14/03 (1)
- Way to go Ric.. - SoftwireEngineer 17:36:50 09/14/03 (0)
- Re: Tripath for the whole world....not! - Ric Schultz 19:04:40 09/13/03 (2)
- Why mod a 'perfect' amp? - Kent2003 18:37:41 09/16/03 (1)
- Ha, Ha very funny! - Ric Schultz 18:28:25 09/17/03 (0)
- Very interesting!! - enzo 14:21:51 09/11/03 (4)
- Re: Very interesting!! - azryan (Tripath amp owner) 14:25:10 09/24/03 (0)
- Re: Very interesting!! - Kent2003 14:40:21 09/11/03 (2)
- What's the Rane EQ worth, and where can I get one? - enzo 15:36:44 09/11/03 (1)
- Re: What's the Rane EQ worth, and where can I get one? - Kent2003 17:05:33 09/11/03 (0)