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In Reply to: If you want "heft" posted by airtime on July 17, 2015 at 08:30:53:
And depending on the tube amp, it doesn't have to sound 'bloated fat' but sometimes just a little bit of meat in the lower freqs really make a big difference in overall enjoyment. I call it 'robust and full-bodied', which to me is the opposite of lean, clean, sterile, and dry.
A high damping factor probably won't help here. I've owned amps with very high damping factor in both Class AB and Class D but that doesn't guarantee they get the bass 'right'. Tight maybe, but not 'right' for my taste. Bryston comes to mind in my experience. My 7BSST2 monoblocks were powerful and tight but otherwise the polar opposite of 'robust and full-bodied' per my description above.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Mel 19:53:23 07/16/15 (150)
- Looks like Mel ran for the hills after reading the replies - airtime 05:59:27 07/23/15 (1)
- RE: Looks like Mel ran for the hills after reading the replies - Mel 06:56:06 07/23/15 (0)
- you've got dry bass, and someone said to get a higher DF amp?!?!? - Timbo in Oz 15:21:59 07/22/15 (0)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - rkeman 07:16:24 07/18/15 (2)
- Emotiva as an "upgrade" over Simaudio, even the older one? - carcass93 08:37:12 07/20/15 (1)
- RE: Emotiva as an "upgrade" over Simaudio, even the older one? - A.Wayne 11:05:42 07/20/15 (0)
- Tubes suck. Try Hypex based product like nad or Merrill audio ...nt - kuribo 21:39:00 07/17/15 (111)
- I'm sure you don't even realize it, but you're doing huge disservice to Hypex-based products.... - carcass93 11:30:58 07/18/15 (110)
- you sure like calling people names - madisonears 18:18:25 07/19/15 (99)
- Not surprisingly, the one who fits the description to a tee,.... - carcass93 06:12:23 07/20/15 (2)
- Nothing personal - madisonears 11:55:20 07/20/15 (1)
- Bravo! - kuribo 18:39:15 07/26/15 (0)
- RE: you sure like calling people names - morricab 01:54:11 07/20/15 (29)
- 6C33C-based amps sure do - the BAT in question, and also my Audio Mirror monos. - carcass93 12:22:16 07/20/15 (28)
- RE: 6C33C-based amps sure do - the BAT in question, and also my Audio Mirror monos. - morricab 13:24:47 07/20/15 (27)
- Please post your impressions, when you feel it's time. I'm really happy with mine. - carcass93 13:48:18 07/20/15 (26)
- RE: Please post your impressions, when you feel it's time. I'm really happy with mine. - morricab 02:48:42 07/21/15 (5)
- If user feedback, and my own experience, is anything to go by - 6C33C designs are less about.... - carcass93 08:55:07 07/21/15 (4)
- RE: If user feedback, and my own experience, is anything to go by - 6C33C designs are less about.... - morricab 01:26:34 07/22/15 (3)
- RE: If user feedback, and my own experience, is anything to go by - 6C33C designs are less about.... - A.Wayne 06:23:06 07/22/15 (2)
- RE: If user feedback, and my own experience, is anything to go by - 6C33C designs are less about.... - morricab 01:18:18 07/23/15 (0)
- RE: If user feedback, and my own experience, is anything to go by - 6C33C designs are less about.... - A.Wayne 06:25:02 07/22/15 (0)
- I really enjoyed hearing - E-Stat 20:53:53 07/20/15 (19)
- RE: I really enjoyed hearing - morricab 02:46:11 07/21/15 (18)
- RE: I really enjoyed hearing space heaters - A.Wayne 08:45:30 07/21/15 (13)
- RE: I really enjoyed hearing space heaters - morricab 01:34:02 07/27/15 (12)
- RE: I really enjoyed hearing space heaters....... - A.Wayne 10:59:32 07/27/15 (11)
- My system has 29 tubes ... - Dave Pogue 05:08:53 07/29/15 (4)
- RE: My system has 29 tubes ... - A.Wayne 07:48:30 08/01/15 (3)
- It is to laugh. - Dave Pogue 09:43:43 08/01/15 (2)
- RE: It is to laugh. - A.Wayne 16:07:42 08/01/15 (1)
- RE: It is to laugh. - morricab 01:42:39 08/03/15 (0)
- RE: I really enjoyed hearing no feedback space heaters.. - A.Wayne 19:15:30 07/28/15 (5)
- RE: I really enjoyed hearing no feedback space heaters.. - morricab 13:17:26 08/01/15 (2)
- RE: I really enjoyed hearing no feedback space heaters.. - A.Wayne 16:13:37 08/01/15 (1)
- RE: I really enjoyed hearing no feedback space heaters.. - morricab 02:11:03 08/03/15 (0)
- Hilarious: Atkinson says, "I wasn't driven screaming from the room" - Feanor 06:31:55 08/01/15 (1)
- RE: Hilarious: Atkinson says, "I wasn't driven screaming from the room" - A.Wayne 07:53:02 08/01/15 (0)
- Honestly - E-Stat 05:50:11 07/21/15 (3)
- RE: Honestly - morricab 04:18:28 07/29/15 (2)
- Actually - E-Stat 05:55:14 07/29/15 (1)
- RE: Actually - morricab 05:29:43 07/30/15 (0)
- Seems there is a large subset of insecure audiophiles who are - kuribo 20:31:21 07/19/15 (0)
- +/-1 - AbeCollins 20:00:19 07/19/15 (1)
- RE: +/-1 - A.Wayne 21:06:24 07/19/15 (0)
- Sorry - E-Stat 19:55:49 07/19/15 (62)
- I'm not at all sorry - madisonears 22:09:44 07/19/15 (59)
- RE: I'm not at all sorry - AbeCollins 09:27:13 07/21/15 (1)
- RE: I'm not at all sorry - madisonears 13:27:24 07/21/15 (0)
- Sorry to hear of your frustration - E-Stat 05:49:00 07/20/15 (0)
- RE: I'm not at all sorry - morricab 01:59:37 07/20/15 (53)
- No contradiction or deception here - madisonears 12:40:18 07/20/15 (50)
- RE: No contradiction or deception here - morricab 13:22:48 07/20/15 (2)
- RE: No contradiction or deception here - madisonears 19:15:28 07/20/15 (1)
- RE: No contradiction or deception here - morricab 02:40:37 07/21/15 (0)
- Did your BAT amps really... - E-Stat 12:47:49 07/20/15 (46)
- RE: Did your BAT amps really... - madisonears 18:55:23 07/20/15 (45)
- Hmmm - E-Stat 20:37:13 07/20/15 (44)
- $$$$$ - madisonears 22:02:03 07/20/15 (43)
- RE: $$$$$ - E-Stat 08:40:32 07/21/15 (42)
- lifestyles - madisonears 13:15:46 07/21/15 (41)
- RE: lifestyles - E-Stat 15:14:16 07/21/15 (40)
- I'm changing my opnion - madisonears 10:55:13 07/22/15 (39)
- Alrighty then - E-Stat 17:35:46 07/22/15 (30)
- some boring philosophy concerning audio - madisonears 18:52:48 07/22/15 (29)
- RE: some boring philosophy concerning audio - E-Stat 20:19:07 07/22/15 (28)
- correct on all counts - madisonears 22:33:37 07/22/15 (27)
- RE: correct on all counts - E-Stat 05:38:32 07/23/15 (7)
- so it's come to this - madisonears 10:26:43 07/23/15 (6)
- RE: so it's come to this, PSU stiffness...... - A.Wayne 12:02:45 07/23/15 (0)
- So what do you really think? :) - E-Stat 10:41:45 07/23/15 (4)
- RE: So what do you really think? :) - madisonears 12:13:00 07/23/15 (3)
- RE: So what do you really think? :) - E-Stat 12:25:13 07/23/15 (2)
- I think you should hear one before dismissing it - madisonears 12:41:45 07/23/15 (1)
- RE: I think you should hear one before dismissing it - E-Stat 12:52:09 07/23/15 (0)
- RE: correct on all counts - morricab 01:35:05 07/23/15 (18)
- RE: correct on all counts - Tidycat1 20:56:05 07/24/15 (1)
- RE: correct on all counts and what about Mel - A.Wayne 03:36:34 07/25/15 (0)
- incorrect on all counts - madisonears 10:22:38 07/23/15 (14)
- "You seem to be a real snob and a class A jerk" - that's nice. How about this: - carcass93 12:32:55 07/24/15 (1)
- Thanks, but no thanks - madisonears 18:14:58 07/24/15 (0)
- RE: incorrect on all counts - morricab 04:43:31 07/24/15 (5)
- RE: incorrect on all counts - madisonears 09:36:36 07/24/15 (4)
- RE: incorrect on all counts - morricab 14:59:20 07/25/15 (3)
- RE: incorrect on all counts - A.Wayne 07:10:27 07/26/15 (2)
- RE: incorrect on all counts - morricab 11:41:07 07/26/15 (0)
- RE: "I know more than a few tooby guys using chip amps now on their Horns" - rick_m 07:36:15 07/26/15 (0)
- That's pretty funny! - E-Stat 10:56:06 07/23/15 (5)
- That's pretty absurd - madisonears 12:29:55 07/23/15 (4)
- RE: That's pretty absurd, more than one road to audio Babylon - A.Wayne 04:44:27 07/24/15 (0)
- Ab adsurdum indeed! - E-Stat 12:40:56 07/23/15 (2)
- nothing more to say - madisonears 12:50:10 07/23/15 (1)
- "I specifically used the word implementation." - E-Stat 13:03:45 07/23/15 (0)
- RE: correct on all counts - A.Wayne 04:31:18 07/23/15 (0)
- RE: I'm changing my opnion - A.Wayne 11:58:54 07/22/15 (7)
- RE: I'm changing my opnion - madisonears 18:56:10 07/22/15 (6)
- RE: I'm changing my opnion, well kinda , maybe ..... - A.Wayne 19:34:13 07/22/15 (5)
- RE: I'm changing my opnion, well kinda , maybe ..... - madisonears 22:52:11 07/22/15 (4)
- RE: I'm changing my opnion, well kinda , maybe ..... - A.Wayne 04:46:26 07/23/15 (3)
- Thanks, I needed that - madisonears 12:07:03 07/23/15 (2)
- RE: Thanks, I needed that - A.Wayne 04:30:46 07/24/15 (1)
- RE: Audire was good stuff , Julius was the man .... - A.Wayne 04:38:54 07/24/15 (0)
- Got that right - airtime 06:30:49 07/20/15 (1)
- RE: Got that right - morricab 07:02:27 07/20/15 (0)
- RE: I'm not at all sorry - Disbeliever 22:31:58 07/19/15 (1)
- RE: I'm not at all sorry - morricab 02:00:18 07/20/15 (0)
- Repulsively presumptuous on so many levels...nt - kuribo 21:44:26 07/19/15 (1)
- Many folks - E-Stat 05:52:11 07/20/15 (0)
- It's a dirty job, but - E-Stat 05:43:30 07/19/15 (6)
- Thanks for proving my point re: asinine posts nt - kuribo 16:38:22 07/19/15 (5)
- Don't get me wrong - E-Stat 19:40:23 07/19/15 (4)
- Of course I post in class d threads- I'm the apologist. What's your excuse? Nt - kuribo 19:43:25 07/19/15 (3)
- And posts - E-Stat 19:58:58 07/19/15 (2)
- There is a difference between knee jerk responses, which are - kuribo 20:24:46 07/19/15 (1)
- Absolutely! - E-Stat 20:36:56 07/19/15 (0)
- +1 - Dynobot 18:27:46 07/18/15 (0)
- It was sarcasm in response to the asinine posts seen here all too often... - kuribo 17:35:39 07/18/15 (0)
- 1+ - airtime 16:12:37 07/18/15 (0)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - hahax@verizon.net 16:22:58 07/17/15 (4)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Mel 20:08:21 07/17/15 (3)
- {{{They sound fine in the bass with a number of other amps}}} - three_sox 01:57:53 07/18/15 (2)
- RE: {{{They sound fine in the bass with a number of other amps}}} - Mel 05:53:06 07/18/15 (1)
- Oh ... - three_sox 06:00:20 07/18/15 (0)
- Speaker Break in - G Squared 14:11:52 07/17/15 (0)
- If you want "heft" - airtime 08:30:53 07/17/15 (4)
- +1 Agree. - AbeCollins 09:46:16 07/17/15 (3)
- You still have your Manley monoblocks? /nt\ - Opus 33 1/3 10:23:21 07/17/15 (2)
- Downsized to Rogue Cronus Magnum KT120 Integrated - nt - AbeCollins 11:08:05 07/17/15 (1)
- RE: Downsized to Rogue Cronus Magnum KT120 Integrated - nt - Jive Turkey 17:31:38 07/28/15 (0)
- Van Alstine 600R - hawkmoon 05:16:07 07/17/15 (0)
- Have the locations of the speakers changed since their upgrade? - 3db 04:55:08 07/17/15 (1)
- RE: Have the locations of the speakers changed since their upgrade? - Mel 05:16:19 07/17/15 (0)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - fantja 03:09:29 07/17/15 (1)
- +1 n/t - Awe-d-o-file 07:05:17 07/17/15 (0)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Disbeliever 22:56:47 07/16/15 (0)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Mr Peabody 20:21:11 07/16/15 (0)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - neolith 20:09:38 07/16/15 (11)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Mel 20:20:18 07/16/15 (10)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Caucasian Blackplate 20:42:30 07/16/15 (5)
- Something I did - airtime 08:33:30 07/17/15 (0)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Mel 21:04:18 07/16/15 (2)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - morricab 00:45:06 07/17/15 (1)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - akolegov 01:36:53 07/17/15 (0)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Tidycat1 20:52:59 07/16/15 (0)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - neolith 20:36:49 07/16/15 (3)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Mel 20:45:25 07/16/15 (2)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - John Elison 21:02:25 07/16/15 (1)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Mel 21:22:33 07/16/15 (0)
- RE: Can You Recommend an Amplifier for Me? - Mr Peabody 20:08:32 07/16/15 (0)
- Bryston amps have high damping factors * - Mike K 19:56:16 07/16/15 (0)
Follow Ups
- +1 Agree. - AbeCollins 09:46:16 07/17/15 (3)
- You still have your Manley monoblocks? /nt\ - Opus 33 1/3 10:23:21 07/17/15 (2)
- Downsized to Rogue Cronus Magnum KT120 Integrated - nt - AbeCollins 11:08:05 07/17/15 (1)
- RE: Downsized to Rogue Cronus Magnum KT120 Integrated - nt - Jive Turkey 17:31:38 07/28/15 (0)
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