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In Reply to: RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! posted by hahax@verizon.net on July 12, 2014 at 18:20:44:
"variable bias to maintain class a with variable bias that tracks output is not a new concept."
Not at all.
The first instances I recall were some "Technics" seperates and receivers from Panasonic many decades ago. And, IMHO they really sounded great. I think they used a feed-foreword scheme for the outer bugs and feedback on the inner, fast ones. The Carver cube was another item along the same line but I didn't think it sounded very good. It's both what you do and how you do it...
Rick
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - thebordas 08:10:51 07/12/14 (94)
- Did anyone see this 10Audio review of the Krell Phantom III - jult52 06:40:41 07/24/14 (12)
- usually "harmonic depth" and "soundstage" depth go together - morricab 03:25:28 08/01/14 (0)
- This is what i find weird ... - beppe61 06:22:32 07/29/14 (8)
- Why do you love Krell?? Have you owned Krell? - morricab 03:30:31 08/01/14 (5)
- " Based on the music selections " - beppe61 05:26:40 08/01/14 (4)
- RE: " Based on the music selections " - morricab 11:36:31 08/01/14 (3)
- RE: " Based on the music selections " - thebordas 06:23:39 08/06/14 (0)
- RE: " Based on the music selections " - beppe61 02:20:28 08/02/14 (1)
- RE: " Based on the music selections " - morricab 03:09:47 08/02/14 (0)
- RE: This is what i find weird ... - thebordas 06:53:46 07/31/14 (1)
- RE: This is what i find weird ... - beppe61 22:34:22 07/31/14 (0)
- RE: Did anyone see this 10Audio review of the Krell Phantom III - thebordas 15:37:39 07/24/14 (0)
- RE: Did anyone see this 10Audio review of the Krell Phantom III - rhale64 13:26:30 07/24/14 (0)
- So, do you have it yet? - JoshT 10:19:21 07/22/14 (5)
- RE: So, do you have it yet? - thebordas 15:28:16 07/22/14 (4)
- RE: So, do you have it yet? - rhale64 09:39:06 07/23/14 (3)
- RE: So, do you have it yet? - thebordas 16:09:48 07/23/14 (2)
- RE: So, do you have it yet? - thebordas 05:02:01 07/24/14 (0)
- RE: So, do you have it yet? - rhale64 18:14:52 07/23/14 (0)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - skinzy 16:44:21 07/20/14 (0)
- it just looks cheap and fugly - Shane from AUS 20:19:13 07/19/14 (1)
- Not true at all when you see one in person, though I will say . . . - JoshT 10:13:20 07/22/14 (0)
- The best Krell amp I ever heard in my system..... - Cougar 20:44:08 07/15/14 (1)
- RE: The best Krell amp I ever heard in my system..... - fantja 17:47:17 07/16/14 (0)
- Only the preamp section is Class A...sorry - morricab 02:51:07 07/14/14 (19)
- If the output devices are operating in class A mode, it's class A - Feanor 05:05:42 07/17/14 (3)
- RE: If the output devices are operating in class A mode, it's class A - morricab 13:06:40 07/17/14 (2)
- True that they call only the preamp class A - Feanor 14:00:20 07/17/14 (1)
- RE: True that they call only the preamp class A - morricab 04:14:10 07/18/14 (0)
- Along with pretty much every other preamp ever made by anybody. - b.l.zeebub 10:40:32 07/14/14 (0)
- RE: Only the preamp section is Class A...sorry - thebordas 06:53:32 07/14/14 (6)
- Better yet, read Krell's description - E-Stat 10:14:01 07/14/14 (5)
- RE: Better yet, read Krell's description - thebordas 10:20:49 07/14/14 (4)
- RE: Better yet, read Krell's description - morricab 03:30:00 07/15/14 (2)
- RE: Better yet, read Krell's description - thebordas 03:48:03 07/15/14 (1)
- Yes, it's ultimately all about the sound. Avoid audio nervosa! - JoshT 06:54:03 07/15/14 (0)
- Sliding bias amps have been available since 1975 - E-Stat 10:30:05 07/14/14 (0)
- RE: Only the preamp section is Class A...sorry - thebordas 05:20:15 07/14/14 (0)
- RE: Only the preamp section is Class A...sorry - thebordas 04:35:23 07/14/14 (5)
- Taht's what they said about Sustained Plateau Biasing... - kuma 08:40:47 07/14/14 (4)
- Todd Eichenbaum.... - kootenay 10:32:13 07/14/14 (1)
- Thanks... - kuma 20:01:08 07/14/14 (0)
- RE: Taht's what they said about Sustained Plateau Biasing... - fantja 08:46:15 07/14/14 (1)
- RE: Taht's what they said about Sustained Plateau Biasing... - readargos 09:39:55 08/06/14 (0)
- Wow, I'm really surprised... - DAVID 23:37:24 07/13/14 (4)
- Interesting. I'm surprised a bit too. But . . . - JoshT 06:57:41 07/15/14 (3)
- RE: Interesting. I'm surprised a bit too. But . . . - beppe61 11:57:11 07/15/14 (2)
- Geez... - DAVID 20:21:48 07/17/14 (1)
- RE: Geez... - beppe61 23:13:14 07/17/14 (0)
- Thanks Dave. I'd not even heard of the Vanguard, and . . . - JoshT 10:58:47 07/13/14 (1)
- RE: Thanks Dave. I'd not even heard of the Vanguard, and . . . - thebordas 11:25:14 07/13/14 (0)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - Mike K 19:56:18 07/12/14 (3)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - thebordas 19:07:16 07/13/14 (1)
- Yes, it's quite amazing . . . - JoshT 19:52:11 07/13/14 (0)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - middleground 20:38:08 07/12/14 (0)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - hahax@verizon.net 18:20:44 07/12/14 (2)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - rick_m 06:31:21 07/14/14 (1)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - KanedaK 12:51:24 08/02/14 (0)
- Reads like ad copy...... - Ozzy 17:13:35 07/12/14 (2)
- RE: Reads like ad copy...... - thebordas 11:31:17 07/13/14 (0)
- You know . . . - JoshT 10:52:24 07/13/14 (0)
- Are you sure... - TGT 14:11:25 07/12/14 (5)
- RE: Are you sure... - bjh 17:50:31 07/13/14 (0)
- RE: Are you sure... - thebordas 15:08:34 07/12/14 (3)
- RE: Are you sure... - middleground 20:40:13 07/12/14 (2)
- RE: Are you sure... - thebordas 11:46:31 07/13/14 (0)
- RE: Are you sure... - Palustris 10:41:59 07/13/14 (0)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - fantja 08:36:09 07/12/14 (2)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - thebordas 09:05:47 07/12/14 (1)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - fantja 11:40:53 07/12/14 (0)
- yet More "Forbidden Planet' gear. - bare 08:29:45 07/12/14 (23)
- Forbidden Planet makes excellent subwoofer amps... otherwise dry, grey,un-involving~nT - Cleantimestream 19:12:53 07/15/14 (0)
- care to explain... - wangmr 08:27:26 07/14/14 (2)
- Dan took the name 'Krell' {name of the people} from the movie Forbidden Planet. ~nT - Cleantimestream 19:14:46 07/15/14 (1)
- RE: thanks .... sometimes i feel the whole english language would collapse... - wangmr 11:10:36 07/17/14 (0)
- Dead wrong IMO - JoshT 10:48:38 07/13/14 (6)
- it's cool that Krell still lives on without Dan... - kuma 14:04:45 07/13/14 (5)
- RE: it's cool that Krell still lives on without Dan... - sudz1234@yahoo.com 15:07:33 07/13/14 (4)
- Reading comprehension? C-O-N-N-E-C-T-I-C-U-T . . . - JoshT 19:55:31 07/13/14 (1)
- RE: Reading comprehension? C-O-N-N-E-C-T-I-C-U-T . . . - sudz1234@yahoo.com 21:10:02 07/13/14 (0)
- According to their Email ... - kuma 15:52:35 07/13/14 (1)
- RE: According to their Email ... - thebordas 19:03:51 07/13/14 (0)
- RE: yet More "Forbidden Planet' gear. - thebordas 08:55:57 07/12/14 (11)
- RE: yet More "Forbidden Planet' gear. - middleground 20:41:52 07/12/14 (0)
- RE: yet More "Forbidden Planet' gear. - AbeCollins 11:05:52 07/12/14 (9)
- Depends... - kootenay 13:31:15 07/12/14 (8)
- RE: Depends... - AbeCollins 19:33:46 07/12/14 (6)
- Yes... - kootenay 21:46:19 07/12/14 (5)
- Well, wait a minute. I think you and Abe are discussing apples and oranges - JoshT 10:37:31 07/13/14 (4)
- Addendum - JoshT 11:07:59 07/13/14 (3)
- Josh... I agree with you... - kootenay 11:59:17 07/13/14 (2)
- Awesome to hear! - JoshT 19:48:29 07/13/14 (1)
- RE: Awesome to hear! - AbeCollins 15:25:54 07/16/14 (0)
- RE: Depends... - fantja 16:15:43 07/12/14 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - rick_m 06:31:21 07/14/14 (1)
- RE: KRELL VANGAURD COMING!! - KanedaK 12:51:24 08/02/14 (0)