Why do most preamps have such high gain?

Topic - Why do most preamps have such high gain? - mingles 00:21:18 07/06/12 (103)

RE: Why do most preamps have such high gain? - Bill Musgrave 09:08:10 07/08/12 (0)

RE: Why do most preamps have such high gain? - ejman 15:40:42 07/07/12 (3)

RE: Why do most preamps have such high gain? - mingles 18:35:15 07/07/12 (2)

Leaving the amp on approach - jsm71 07:35:58 07/09/12 (0)

RE: Why do most preamps have such high gain? - ejman 20:54:26 07/07/12 (0)

That's why they make attenuators...... - Justlisten2 13:26:12 07/07/12 (2)

I tried other in-line attenuators but not these. Those I tried gave me less transparency.(nt) - samtellig 15:39:38 07/07/12 (1)

Ditto...N/T - musetap 15:46:14 07/08/12 (0)

I love my preamp's gain controls - jsm71 08:45:30 07/07/12 (4)

RE: I love my preamp's gain controls - mingles 22:42:41 07/07/12 (1)

It's standard on the SLP-98 & the SLP-05 -nt - AbeCollins 09:44:10 07/08/12 (0)

Gain Control can be useful in a linestage - AbeCollins 17:30:59 07/07/12 (1)

RE: Gain Control can be useful in a linestage - mingles 22:32:18 07/08/12 (0)

the question is really why do digital sources have so much output. - Ralph 08:16:37 07/07/12 (55)

The obvious question that follows is... - E-Stat 08:22:17 07/08/12 (33)

So it can't come even near to overload regardless of the input - Ralph 08:53:26 07/08/12 (32)

RE: So it can't come even near to overload regardless of the input - E-Stat 09:03:25 07/08/12 (31)

Like I mentioned earlier - Ralph 09:17:19 07/08/12 (30)

Not following you at all - E-Stat 15:28:58 07/08/12 (29)

RE: Not following you at all - Ralph 07:36:20 07/09/12 (28)

You continue to dodge a very simple question - E-Stat 07:51:13 07/09/12 (27)

incorrect - Ralph 18:20:02 07/09/12 (26)

For some reason - E-Stat 18:33:36 07/09/12 (25)

... - Ralph 07:02:44 07/10/12 (24)

I'll stop here - E-Stat 07:09:16 07/10/12 (23)

I've been thinking about this - Ralph 09:16:27 07/18/12 (5)

The Difficulty With Understanding - E-Stat 09:47:42 07/18/12 (4)

RE: The Difficulty With Understanding - roscoeiii 12:10:04 07/18/12 (2)

I appreciate the contributions of many manufacturers - E-Stat 14:28:55 07/18/12 (1)

RE: I appreciate the contributions of many manufacturers - roscoeiii 15:18:43 07/18/12 (0)

Sheesh - Ralph 10:25:23 07/18/12 (0)

RE: I'll stop here - Ralph 07:24:19 07/10/12 (16)

"The problem is both digital controls and passive volume controls don't really work." - E-Stat 07:32:10 07/10/12 (15)

So far he's not taken me to task on it. - Ralph 19:35:43 07/10/12 (14)

Why argue with another manufacturer? - E-Stat 19:37:52 07/10/12 (13)

RE: Why argue with another manufacturer? - Charles Hansen 02:23:01 07/11/12 (12)

RE: Why argue with another manufacturer? - Ralph 09:58:30 07/11/12 (10)

He did exactly as I had forseen - E-Stat 08:24:34 07/17/12 (9)

RE: He did exactly as I had forseen - Ralph 10:12:42 07/17/12 (8)

But have nothing at all to do - E-Stat 10:26:07 07/17/12 (7)

Well, the more voltage you make - Ralph 10:48:28 07/17/12 (6)

Will it go round in circles? - E-Stat 11:06:13 07/17/12 (5)

Its not about a preamp - Ralph 11:37:41 07/17/12 (4)

I see you completely avoided discussing distortion - E-Stat 12:16:45 07/17/12 (3)

That was needed so you would understand my position - Ralph 13:08:59 07/17/12 (2)

You're a broken record - E-Stat 13:45:44 07/17/12 (1)

A broken record is right - Ralph 14:32:50 07/17/12 (0)

Thanks for chiming in - E-Stat 05:55:19 07/11/12 (0)

To have best S/N ratio from the digital player (specsmanship) - commentary 04:24:35 07/08/12 (6)

RE: To have best S/N ratio from the digital player (specsmanship) - Charles Hansen 07:12:08 07/08/12 (5)

Oh, you corrected my point well. nt - commentary 23:47:20 07/10/12 (0)

For once, there is a simple explanation - Belgarchi 19:10:44 07/08/12 (0)

"Improving" irrelevant specifications usually makes matters worse - Tony Lauck 09:36:01 07/08/12 (2)

Nice point - Charles Hansen 12:28:26 07/08/12 (1)

RE: Nice point - Tony Lauck 12:59:15 07/08/12 (0)

Possibly to make them more suitable for use with a passive linestage? - AbeCollins 17:38:40 07/07/12 (9)

No- if you have a passive you want the least amount of output - Ralph 21:13:25 07/07/12 (8)

That is counter intuitive to me - AbeCollins 19:22:26 07/08/12 (4)

RE: here's how that should work. - Ralph 07:08:08 07/09/12 (3)

RE: here's how that should work. - AbeCollins 13:41:13 07/09/12 (2)

RE: here's how that should work. - Ralph 18:09:51 07/09/12 (1)

RE: here's how that should work. - AbeCollins 21:54:12 07/09/12 (0)

Not in all cases Ralph - Plinko 09:22:22 07/08/12 (2)

Yes, that works. - Ralph 07:03:32 07/09/12 (1)

Agreed - Plinko 20:03:58 07/09/12 (0)

Agreed - Charles Hansen 15:13:24 07/07/12 (3)

RE: If you have high efficency speakers you don't need the gain - Ralph 21:08:22 07/07/12 (0)

You mean (some) manufactures rig things so you "need" an active preamp?(nt) - samtellig 15:42:10 07/07/12 (1)

RE: You mean (some) manufactures rig things so you "need" an active preamp?(nt) - Charles Hansen 09:03:45 07/08/12 (0)

Paul McGowan questions why you need a preamp in the first place. Comments? - samtellig 10:50:46 07/06/12 (7)

RE: Paul McGowan questions why you need a preamp in the first place. Comments? - mingles 23:32:46 07/06/12 (3)

RE: Except for the remote volume control, there is such a DAC - amioutaline? 04:05:08 07/07/12 (2)

RE: Except for the remote volume control, there is such a DAC - mingles 23:15:04 07/08/12 (0)

:-) nt - Rick W 07:27:39 07/07/12 (0)

Mono button, balance knob, tube influence, built in phono... - musetap 21:06:20 07/06/12 (0)

Multiple Sources. He's selling the Perf Wave stuff, could enter into his thinking. - oldmkvi 11:44:23 07/06/12 (0)

RE: - Craiger56 11:27:38 07/06/12 (0)

RE: Why do most preamps have such high gain? - Terry 09:47:53 07/06/12 (0)

I had the opposite issue. - Prisoners 09:23:42 07/06/12 (0)

Historically, to handle phono playback... - E-Stat 08:40:56 07/06/12 (8)

An addendum - Charles Hansen 22:56:45 07/06/12 (6)

Charles, for those of us who use mm carts........ - Rick W 07:40:08 07/07/12 (5)

RE: Charles, for those of us who use mm carts........ - Mushroom Soup 17:31:50 07/23/12 (0)

Maybe if you nix the "excess gain," your system will sound far better.(nt) - samtellig 15:33:27 07/07/12 (1)

Quite possible. nt - Rick W 11:30:26 07/10/12 (0)

RE: Charles, for those of us who use mm carts........ - Charles Hansen 15:29:56 07/07/12 (1)

Thank you, Charles. nt - Rick W 11:28:24 07/10/12 (0)

RE: Exactly - BigguyinATL 13:22:02 07/06/12 (0)

Not so simple... - Victor Khomenko 08:22:07 07/06/12 (7)

If high output sources are popular, why not eliminate excessive gain - and preamps - entirely?(nt) - samtellig 10:58:50 07/06/12 (6)

RE: If high output sources are popular, why not eliminate excessive gain - and preamps - entirely?(nt) - Palustris 10:07:28 07/13/12 (0)

Because popular does not mean universal. - Victor Khomenko 11:24:14 07/06/12 (4)

Because preamps can still sound better than passives and TVCs... - Interstage Tranny 19:11:17 07/06/12 (3)

Tube buffer stage... - tketcham 05:05:52 07/08/12 (0)

It is very system dependent.... - AbeCollins 10:02:18 07/07/12 (0)

Passives just aren't resistors in a box - Plinko 07:34:34 07/07/12 (0)

historically, before CD and digital with ultra high outputs, it was never an issue - Elizabeth 06:27:48 07/06/12 (2)

Wrong idiots - Tony Lauck 09:04:41 07/08/12 (0)

Yea, you have a good point. - rick_m 15:01:18 07/06/12 (0)

RE: Why do most preamps have such high gain? - plugmein 02:28:09 07/06/12 (0)

RE: I felt the AI Modulus had high gain at about 30 dBV. nt - commentary 00:54:24 07/06/12 (2)

RE: I felt the AI Modulus had high gain at about 30 dBV. nt - Vic D 09:18:33 07/11/12 (0)

RE: I felt the AI Modulus had high gain at about 30 dBV. nt - mingles 08:33:41 07/06/12 (0)

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