The wonderful world of Islam that so left wingers condone.

I like this part....., posted on September 15, 2009 at 14:31:18
Bruce Kendall Dealer Posts: 26641 Location: SoCal Joined: February 4, 2005 Contributor Since: February 4, 2005	""It is the easiest way to find those people who are destroying Islam and who want to dirty the reputation we took centuries to build up..." Did I read that right? There are people trying to build Islam's image? Who is advising them? The Islam of old was quite advanced in the sciences, and art and culture flourished. I guess those things just had to go.

Michael. This is Misrepresented, posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:18:10

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You need to remove or edit this to show this was not as you presented it.. thanks to you I made an ass of myself on another board where I rushed to share this.. Not that there isn't already more than enough misery there.. but you need to correct your error.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=18085_Sharia_P

Thanks to who?, posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:28:52
D Harvey Manufacturer Posts: 3484 Location: SE Michigan Joined: May 30, 2001	You're both guilty of the same stupid negligence. ArdRi, you have nobody to blame but yourself. dh

I beleived Michael because I have already, posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:35:42

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seen more than enough come out of islamic Societies that I never for a second questioned weather this was as he presented it. I agree with him that a Society with an appetite for this is troubled but I want him to apologize and edit the post to show what has come to light ... I trusted him and took flack from some shithead on another forum where I posted this.. This is evidently israeli propaganda which while regratable for its falsehood may be understandable as Islamic media sources constantly present worse falsehoods about Israel.. the old they use baby's blood for matza or they kidnap muslim children for their organs..etyc.. That's no excuse for misrepresentation and I am rightly grieved that I suffered harm to my reputation in trusting Micheal's..

None of this changes the fact that islamic Culture instills violence which needs to be countered. Unfortunately Michael has done this cause more harm here than good in this particular instance. Truth is always right.. you stand on sand when you rely on misrepresentations or exxaggerations..

RE: I beleived Michael because I have already, posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:43:15
Michael Samra Dealer Posts: 13114 Location: saginaw michigan Joined: January 30, 2005 Contributor Since: June 24, 2005	ArdRi The only edit on that post is when I added the extra photos I left out. The stealing of the loaf of bread you mean? If the power supply waveform isn't pretty,neither is the sound in most cases.

I think you should clearly state the Truth, posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:51:52

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I passed this along as originally presented and was harshly denounced as a fraudster.. I had to admit to a long time antagonist that I misrepresented the story when I posted what I beleived from your original thread.. I have no use for distortions.. The Truth is sufficient to support you.

Getting caught up in false propaganda only harms your credibility and in this case mine too. Admitting you were drawn in but have come to understand the facts are not as depicted will be enough. The fact that islamic Society is cruel and needs to be countered remains valid. It is out of a love for people suffering under this false opressive ideology of Islam that I am moved . Not out of a hatred for a people.

Good for you. -t, posted on September 15, 2009 at 14:17:55
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One would have to possess some credibility for it to be damaged., posted on September 14, 2009 at 17:35:38
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And you have tons of credibility right??, posted on September 14, 2009 at 17:45:12
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RE: And you have tons of credibility right??, posted on September 14, 2009 at 18:22:11
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That might work for the voices in your head, posted on September 15, 2009 at 01:55:22
ArdRi Audiophile Posts: 1655 Location: Northeast USA Joined: January 29, 2006	but you are dealing with real people here... with sincerely held reasoned positions. If your mental capacity for argument fails you when your emotions take over maybe you are the one who needs to go soemwhere else.... does your utopian health care system let you check yourself into a psychiatric facility?

Most of the left wingers have seemed to allow the, posted on September 14, 2009 at 14:09:26

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radical behavior of what they do as being as ok and we should keep our noses out of it and let their actions be deemed acceptable
Every day I see from posts from you people saying right wingers do this,or right wingers say this or that..Please,don't deny that you say this stuff because you know its very true.I think the most cheerished thing we ever did for Iraq and the Shites was free them from that mad man and now they are speaking out.If you had middleeastern roots,you would understand where I am comming from but you don't.
This is the very country that Obama wants to sit down with the leader that pratices this sort of thing,day in and day out.
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But, Michael...., posted on September 14, 2009 at 14:19:39

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....the "incident" you pointed out had nothing to do with crime or Islamic law. The kid was a street performer. Is the story sad anyway? Yes, but what does that have to do with Islam, much less the notion that I would condone such a thing even if your narrative were true.

If you expect to be taken seriously, the least you could do is present a REAL atrocity that actually happened and a TRUTHFUL narrative to go with it. The story you presented was a fabrication, a lie. Do you really not see the problem with that?

dh

RE: But, Michael...., posted on September 14, 2009 at 14:49:17

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Street performer? If what you are saying is true,what kind of parent or society would allow that. I don't know but this doesn't jive with anyway I was ever brought up..I have known a moslem family who lives in Dearborn that did what they call a mercy killing on his 19yo daughter because she had gone on a date with an American boy who is protestant..He is serving a life sentence and the family can't understand why.You tell me shit like this doesn't happen? BULL SHIT!!!!!!
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It's not "mercy killing"....., posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:03:02

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....it's called "honor killing". The practice is beyond repugnant. It has no chance of survival as an acceptable societal mode in the US. It is gender-motivated murder, and it's wrong. I think we all agree on that. I'm sure you consider me to be liberal; I assure you I do not condone "honor killings" in the context of any society.

It appears to be well-documented that the boy was a street performer. I agree, even *that* is a sad story and a sad commentary on the state of much of the world in general. At the same time, plenty of that kind of shit goes on in non-Islamic countries--it hasn't got a damn thing to do with Islam.

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RE: It's not "mercy killing"....., posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:34:31

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Thnaks DH
I couln't imagine thinking any of that was ok..You know Im also of the belief that if I walked by a house and a man was beating his wife until she was black and blue, and I said or did nothing,I am just as guilty as he is..So many people today say,let it go and mind our own business when it happens in other countries and thats wrong..I'm glad you have more compassion for human rights than many do.This strikes a more personal note with me because my people live in that part of the world,not Iran but Lebanon and Syria.
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RE: It's not "mercy killing"....., posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:52:05
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I put myself between a couple once...., posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:44:40

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...at a rest stop in IL. They were fighting and he did a move with his car with her standing just outside of it that could have well killed her. I was in my car, got close and told them I wasn't leaving until she either got back in the car with him, or came inside the Oasis with me where she could get some help. After a few minutes, she got back into the guy's car and they left. What more can you do?

I can't imagine what makes you think any of the posters here support things like beheadings, mutilations, and honor killings. My personal opposition to the war in Iraq has nothing at all to do with any of that. Those are seperate issues altogether.

You seem to think that the Shiites are not guilty of this kind of stuff. Where do they fit in your "big picture" of Islam?

dh

RE: I put myself between a couple once...., posted on September 14, 2009 at 16:27:54

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You seem to think that the Shiites are not guilty of this kind of stuff. Where do they fit in your "big picture" of Islam?

Wait a second..Now your reading thoughts into this..Of course their are Shites guilty of this but they are they are 80% of the population in Iraq and they were being forcefully dominated by the 20% Sunai population..Not anymore tho.Many couldn't even go home to visit their families until we invaded Iraq and took out of the big cheese and now they come and go as they please.Don't forget I live near the second largest concentration of Moslems outside of the middleeast.
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RE: The wonderful world of Islam that so left wingers condone., posted on September 14, 2009 at 10:48:57

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You have to admit, in countries like Egypt where cutting off a hand is still a valid punishment, there simply is less theft.

Fwiw, running over an arm like that might break a bone or two but it won't cripple it for life, keep in mind that the pressure would only be about 25-35 pounds per square inch and cushioned in a towel, may have not done any damage at all.
From this standpoint, it may be this story is actually made up around the footage.
If you saw the series "pitchmen" you will remember Sully had a car run over his hand protected only by a thin layer of foot pad jell.

Try that with a rail car and the results will be different.

When i was in Egypt, it took a while to get used to seeing pairs or more of soldiers at each intersection with automatic weapons.
I had to keep reminding myself that they were there for my protection (a bus full of tourists were shot up the week before).
This was before 911 but the anti Israel "save our Palestinian brothers" sentiment driving the terrorism was vividly clear already there but has yet to be portrait fully on our media.
I was told, if i am approached anywhere by a man with a full beard, to cross the street immediately, sound advice i thought, like not eating anything outside the Movenpik hotel.

One of the wonderful parts of Islam was on Thursday nights i think it was, you could go outside and hear dozens of prayers from all directions, coming from the towers all around.
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Come on Michael, several have challenged you, posted on September 14, 2009 at 10:34:08
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RE: Come on Michael, several have challenged you, posted on September 14, 2009 at 13:56:03
Michael Samra Dealer Posts: 13114 Location: saginaw michigan Joined: January 30, 2005 Contributor Since: June 24, 2005	John do you honestly think doing that to a child is ok.Thats just sick and yes its true,they do this. If the power supply waveform isn't pretty,neither is the sound in most cases.

RE: The wonderful world of Islam that so left wingers condone., posted on September 14, 2009 at 10:21:15
Wendell Narrod Audiophile Posts: 7969 Location: Louisville, KY Joined: June 2, 2000	Michael, each time I'm convinced you cannot offer a more stupid post, you prove me wrong. Give me a list of the "left wingers" who condone such action. You really do come across as less than worthy of serious consideration with these posts. -Wendell

Michael, a serious question., posted on September 14, 2009 at 10:15:09

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Why do you constantly post stuff from chain emails as if it were fact? When confronted, you usually don't reply at all. Is it just to keep us busy? Are you trying to enlighten folks by making them do "research"? Or do you really believe this crap and decide to post it without bothering to do some of the easiest research that can be done on the internet? I seriously am curious what your objective was here.

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Why do I post this stuff?, posted on September 14, 2009 at 14:43:01

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Lets see,every single day on this forum I read statements like,wingers did this,or wingnuts said that and you are always posting some Bullshit lined article about how republicans do this or do that..Not many Republicans call you out on it because they figure its a waste of time like talking to a brick wall.The GOP isn't even in power and have no majority in any branch right now and you guys still want to blame us for your looney programs not being able to pass.Now you guys get mad when I post stuff that many left wingers speak so fondly of in Moslem behavior and condemn any western interference? I don't know about you guys.
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So who, exactly, speaks so fondly of Moslem behavior?, posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:15:27
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"..left wingers speak so fondly of in Moslem behavior..", posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:07:30
Wendell Narrod Audiophile Posts: 7969 Location: Louisville, KY Joined: June 2, 2000	Bull! Prove it! -Wendell

RE: "..left wingers speak so fondly of in Moslem behavior..", posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:18:31
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RE: "..left wingers speak so fondly of in Moslem behavior..", posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:24:29
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I have to agree., posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:26:14
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Of course you think its infantile., posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:40:29
Michael Samra Dealer Posts: 13114 Location: saginaw michigan Joined: January 30, 2005 Contributor Since: June 24, 2005	This is basically the left wing mentality..Blame everyone else for our problems epecially when you are called out on your thinking..Take your health care plan that won't pass.Do you why it hasn't passed? Its the fault of those dam right wingers,the wingnuts.They are out of power but its all their fault. If the power supply waveform isn't pretty,neither is the sound in most cases.

Here's why., posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:57:27

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It has nothing to do with healthcare, though I can tell you the reason it hasn't passed is because it hasn't been voted on. In fact, the bill hasn't even been written yet. But I digress.....

It's infantile that you would post a chain email like this one (and several others you've put up here in the past) without bothering to check the story's veracity--something that is very easy to do at a number of well-known and well-regarded websites.

It's infantile that you would project support for something like this (if it were true) onto those who do not share your point of view on the war in Iraq. You haven't called anyone out on their thinking, you've only demonstrated your own lack of it.

And, most of all, it's infantile that you can't just step up and be a man and admit that you made a mistake in trying to make a point with a work of fiction that you presented as fact because you were too negligent to check it out before posting.

Enough said.

dh

RE: Here's why., posted on September 14, 2009 at 16:18:43
Michael Samra Dealer Posts: 13114 Location: saginaw michigan Joined: January 30, 2005 Contributor Since: June 24, 2005	DH You mean like SNOPES LOL LOL LOL..we already know what that was about and I had noticed that it isn't referenced anymore..Can we really find out the truth from any of these so called sources?? My people live in that part of the world and these things happen on a regular basis..Believe me,they do!!! If the power supply waveform isn't pretty,neither is the sound in most cases.

"these things happen on a regular basis..Believe me,they do!!!", posted on September 15, 2009 at 05:58:32
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You've become irrational...., posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:05:10
D Harvey Manufacturer Posts: 3484 Location: SE Michigan Joined: May 30, 2001	....in your inabilaty to contain your excitement. You're in no condition to have a reasoned conversation...not at the moment. dh

Michael's substantial history of forum postings and replies surely gives inmates..., posted on September 14, 2009 at 12:11:59
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it is good to see a society with real law and order, posted on September 14, 2009 at 10:13:29
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Since you are obviously an expert,, posted on September 14, 2009 at 09:54:33
Bruce Kendall Dealer Posts: 26641 Location: SoCal Joined: February 4, 2005 Contributor Since: February 4, 2005	could you please point me towards any reference point showing that democrats (I assume that is what you mean by left wingers) support or condone Sharia Law? And while you're at it, provide a reference showing where democrats support Islamic fundamentalism. That should be easy for a pro like you, and it would be so educational for those of us who are unaware of these things.

... and also one (myself included) should be careful accepting at face value contributions from MS, posted on September 14, 2009 at 09:43:33

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According to a Peyke Iran spokesperson who corrected the record last November in a note posted on Little Green Footballs, the young boy whose arm was run over was not being punished for a crime. He was part of a "Maareke giry" or street magic act and allegedly performed the stunt for money (note the gentleman speaking into a microphone in image #1). The seventh and eighth pictures in the series, which appear to show the child shaken but otherwise unharmed after the ordeal, were omitted from the email flier but can still be viewed on Peykeiran.com (where all the images are attributed to photographer Siamak Yari).

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8-Year-Old Iranian Child Caught Stealing Bread?

Why don't you read the comments by people under the link you posted?, posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:14:52
Michael Samra Dealer Posts: 13114 Location: saginaw michigan Joined: January 30, 2005 Contributor Since: June 24, 2005	There is everything from where are the human rights groups and its still sick they would do this whether its fake or not and the kid doesn't look happy.There are loads of comments under that link and they don't seem favorable to argument..Thanks anyway. If the power supply waveform isn't pretty,neither is the sound in most cases.

I still think its sick that anyone would allow that to happen to a child, posted on September 14, 2009 at 14:25:48

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if what you are saying is true..In the US If we smacked a kids arm out of the way,we would be brought up on charges in a court of law.You are telling me that playing acts of mightiness with a child,who isn't much bigger than a toddler is ok? This is just sick even if it is an act of mightiness as you say.I know they strap bombs to 13 year old kids and say go blow yourselves up in the name of Islam when you blow up that market.
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Gosh darned facts., posted on September 14, 2009 at 09:56:03
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I'm sure the OP could find validation for his story. . ., posted on September 14, 2009 at 11:22:53
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I have Persian friends going back to college days (my "X" is also from Iran) and this naturally lead me to, posted on September 14, 2009 at 10:07:10
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Wow, shows the dangers of the Internet. I wonder now if the Child-raping Mormon sect pics were fabricated?, posted on September 14, 2009 at 09:51:40
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Ah!, posted on September 14, 2009 at 09:45:35
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Disgusting true ... but we Westerners shouldn't fell any great moral superiority when we use air strikes, posted on September 14, 2009 at 09:30:39

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to repond to theft.

Gen. Stanley McChrystal waded through a knee-deep river to inspect the charred remains of two fuel tankers destroyed in the Friday attack, which Afghan officials say killed about 70 people. It was unclear how many were Taliban and how many were villagers who rushed to the scene to siphon fuel from the stolen trucks.

McChrystal visited the site about 100 miles (160 kilometers) north of Kabul as European leaders already nervous about the escalating war demanded answers. Some called the airstrike — requested by the Germans and carried out by U.S. jets — "a tragedy" and "a big mistake" that must be investigated.

No doubt the "investigation" will also conclude it was "a tragedy" and "a big mistake" ... and little besides.

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U.S. general: Afghan civilians wounded at bomb site

So THAT'S why you have Islamic friends., posted on September 14, 2009 at 09:27:23
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I have many islamic friends but they aren't radical fundametalists., posted on September 14, 2009 at 13:59:35
Michael Samra Dealer Posts: 13114 Location: saginaw michigan Joined: January 30, 2005 Contributor Since: June 24, 2005	This was sent to me by a much more progressive canadaian think who thinks like a lot of you guys til he had seen this. If the power supply waveform isn't pretty,neither is the sound in most cases.

Congratulations., posted on September 14, 2009 at 14:21:12
D Harvey Manufacturer Posts: 3484 Location: SE Michigan Joined: May 30, 2001	He finally agrees with you because of fictional propoganda. You must be very proud. dh

The wonderful world of Christianity that so Right wingers condone., posted on September 14, 2009 at 09:22:05

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(Just a note: the following is **intentionally** over the top and ill-thought-out and more a mirroring excercise for Mr. Samra.)

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Michael that is some nasty stuff to post., posted on September 14, 2009 at 09:14:50
castironandtubes Audiophile Posts: 3854 Location: NY Joined: October 31, 2003	I would have appreciated some kind of warning. I defend people's right to choose their religion and object to prejudice based on religion. This does not represent Islam whether it was done "in the name of Islam" or not. People do all kinds of things in the name of religion, yours included. Dave

Where else would people stand by and let that happen?, posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:03:39

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The entire Culture is controlled by that mind set,it is who they have become. It is totally and completely instilled via Islamic Indoctrination. Remove Islam from the people and you remove the false justification for such mindless brutality which is under Islam practiced as a Divine Obedience. Nobody following Jesus Christ harms another... nobody following Jesus harms another.. anyone harming another while claiming to be following Jesus is a Liar. Are you going to suggest the State Religion in Iran controlling the entire Nation as well as in many other similar counries are in toto Liars who misrepresent Islam? Where then pray tell is Islam NOT present with such abiding violence?

RE: Where else would people stand by and let that happen?, posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:22:41

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BINGO!!!
They know this deep in their hearts but they (the liberals) just won't admit it.They were instrumental in passing laws in this country that if you spank your kid,you can lose them or go to jail. In other words,you can't spank your own kids but this type of behavior they think we should look the other way..Its about what I expect from them.
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You'd have a point...., posted on September 14, 2009 at 15:27:44
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RE: Michael that is some nasty stuff to post., posted on September 14, 2009 at 14:30:25

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Dave
I agree with you and there are relgions like snake handlers and they ought to be called out also.. Look how we reacted in WACO over relgious pratices..I think exploiting any child is disheartning in my eyes.If they say its an act of mightiness,thats better than the real thing I guess but that looked awful real to me.
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Michael you should be ashamed, posted on September 14, 2009 at 18:36:29

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But I'm not holding my breath. Obviously you fail to see any wrongdoing in posting an outright lie. Bjh's post sums it up the best considering the context. Obviously you have no concern for your credibility or even much awareness of it it seems.

Have you ever been to the circus Michael? Can you point to your posts about the cruelty of "exploiting" children there? Is using children for performance really so un-American? Have you watched many tv ads? Ever seen "America's Got Talent"? Can you point to your posts of outrage about them? Did you identify their "exploitation" with Christianity for those of them that are brought up in Christianity?

Anyway, we now have that much better an idea of the context in which to view your posts.

Dave

RE: Michael you should be ashamed, posted on September 14, 2009 at 20:02:04

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Dave
90% of the stuff posted on this forum is undocumented dribble..The sad part is,the only things that are defended is the left wing ideaology and everything that has a conservative flavor is considered garbage from unabated right wing extremtists..Thats why I post some of these things.You say they have no semblance of truth but thats not true either.
Read the stuff thats posted on the forum every day..We hear everything from right wingers are racist and non caring and want to torcher terrorists for no reason and do this and do that..Give it up please!!!
You know exactly how I feel about things as I posted them many times..I believe in fairness in the work place...I believe we should build and manufacture our own goods and employ our own people for services that are needed..I don't think anyone should be held hostage to food producers because they can't afford food and I don't believe anyone should have to freeze because they can't pay their heating bill..I am agaisnt gay marriage but so are most people from what I read.I despise child molesters and I'm against abortion and I don't belive we should tear down the flag in our learning insitutions just to apease a few of those that want to protest our patronage.
I am a conservative but do I agree with everything they say and do? Hell no I don't..Do I wan't the GOP to be the only party in existence? Not a chance..That would be a dictatorship/
Dave
I commend you when you stood up to those from other countries on here that ridiculed the US without any knowledge or points..Now you know how a conservative or republican feels when they keep seeing things like winger and racist day in and day out..This is why I post some of that stuff because Im tired of seeing of this same shit day in and day out.Don't you guys get tired of it? I would think you would!
If they would lighten up,so would I but nobody seems to go after them for it..Show some fairness and I will be much more objective in my posts and I say this to anyone..Not everything and everyone that is conservative is evil just as not everything and everyone that is liberal is good.Can I get an amen on that?
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Michael if there is one thing I am tired of it is, posted on September 14, 2009 at 21:14:22

castironandtubes
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BS in posts. Your logic of posting an outright lie to somehow "counter" liberals' postings is most peculiar. If you have a problem with a liberal's post, challenge them with an argument that has substance to it. That's what meaningful discussion is supposed to be. I guess you don't realize that posting this kind of crap (as evidenced by bjh's reply) does nothing but make the people that you identify with look that much more ridiculous and liberals that much more credible. At this point of course this is not an incident but a part of a larger pattern that is getting clearer and clearer.

I'll give you this, you did make me look stupid for not assuming it was BS in the first place.

Dave

RE: Michael if there is one thing I am tired of it is, posted on September 15, 2009 at 00:12:35

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Dave
If you really want to address BS in posts,do it in all silly posts and even ones that are put out by left wingers that are total lies about conservatives.
Yesterday you asked me where did Obama say his health program would cost 900bil dollars? I had showed you the link and you didn't say a word.Its like oh god,he caught me,I may look foolish.No you won't look foolish and I wouldn't expound on it to make you look foolish.You asked me a question and I showed you the answer but had it been from a conservative news paper, I think you would have jumped all over it as being right wing propaganda, am I right?..Of course opposing news groups may exaggerate a bit but being this one is in the bag for Obama,I don't see how it can be exaggerated.
Anyway,if people are going to constantly label conservatives as bigots like you did to me a week or so a ago,I'm going to reciprocate in the same way.You have no basis for calling anyone a bigot because they post humor.You don't know me anymore than I know who you are..AFAIC,we are just two guys that send posts over a computer.So what if someone wants to post something other than the political garbage that makes everyone uptight..I'd say,welcome aboard.
THe reason I was upset is because I was emailed by a guy that posts on tube diy and vintage asking me why I let you people call me names like bigot and winger.He was reading the WC and he wanted to answer you guys but I told him not to get involved as they would think I perpetrated this..Yes he is black and yes he knows me from me helping him with amps over the phone..We had lunch in Toldeo in the first week of July..I almost was tempted to say go ahead and let him answer you guys.. I didn't tho.
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RE: Michael if there is one thing I am tired of it is, posted on September 15, 2009 at 08:09:03
castironandtubes Audiophile Posts: 3854 Location: NY Joined: October 31, 2003	Michael I only refer to you as a bigot when you give me a reason to. It has nothing to do with your political beliefs, there are many many conservatives here that have never made a bigoted post. I don't call them bigots because they are not. It's really that simple. I only know who you are from how you choose to present yourself in your posts. Dave

It's happening in the name of Extremism, very tempting for many Christians too. Nice try., posted on September 14, 2009 at 09:14:17
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