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I Am Angry, as Hell...on the nearly Anniversary Date of Barack Obama 's election to the Presidency of the

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Posted on November 5, 2009 at 16:26:10
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 United States an attack occured on the worlds largest military base at Fort Hood, Texas...before anyone misconstrues my political slant, I clearly state that I am a LEFT leaning PATRIOTIC American citizen whose views are totallly off the charts in what is today called the American agenda... enough qualifications on those regards... my ANGER concerns the final nail in the coffin of the Barrack Obama presidency... when the nation was under an unknown attack, ole Barry Boy, was nowhere to be seen or heard, in some undisclosed location, OH NO, On Air Force One, on his way to His scheduled SPEECH to a Native American Constituency... after all those niceties the President nonchalantly addressed the happenings at Fort Hood...I might be able to excuse such behaviour and justify his inabilty to articulare off the cuff on a happening minute by minute situation where NO ONE was certain of what was happening, but as leader and Presidient of the United States it was HIS DUTY to reassure the population that everything that was possible was being done to ascertain the facts...but no, Barry went on as scheduled like a Cecile B DeMille star with the original script as if nothing in the world was more important...anyone care to compare this to GWB's "My Pet Goat" moment?...after the election results just this past Tuesday that clearly showed the abandonment of Obama's base and their lassitude in oraganizing themselves as individuals and trudging to the polls it would seem that a President in such a position would take the LEADERSHIP responsibity to communicate closely with the American people...Barrack Obama is a charlattan who fooled a disheartend populace with nebulous and unmeaningful words of audacity, hope and change...this presidency is a failure of LEADERSHIP!!!!! I am a proud Leftist Liberal Homosexual Voting Citizen of the U.S.A.!!!!!!!

yes, posted on November 6, 2009 at 18:11:02
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 Me too. Welcome to the insanity of just "being aware of what's happening". Mad is the word! Control is their game, we may or may not have weapons, but they have everything else! Better to keep your mouth shut nowadays it seems.

I am saddened by the news, and it's a shame, and it's something to keep us distracted from what's really going on. Like the "climate change" tax, etc.......

take care my brother, keep your head up and just remember when we are both in the containment camps we did have a belief in freedom. Freedom is dead, and so is the old world. Welcome to the "New World Order".

RE: yes, posted on November 7, 2009 at 10:50:35
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 Wasn't it Springsteen whom said "poor man wants to be rich, rich man wants to be King, King isn't happy till he rules everything"?
"The Sound of One Hand Clapping is Crashing by Design" HKM
In the film 'Catch 22', my favorite scene is when..., posted on November 6, 2009 at 19:54:17
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 ...a wise old Italian survivor who lives in the brothel confides to Nately, a young idealistic and "innocent" serviceman.

Bless you Mike Nichols, for this gem...(gist around 2:50)

Err, how long have you been irrational? nt, posted on November 6, 2009 at 07:50:56
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My work place changed not one iota in "response" to this kook-induced tragedy., posted on November 6, 2009 at 05:25:13
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 No reason for the POTUS to overreact to this either.

Gets my vote for most surreal post of the year, posted on November 6, 2009 at 04:47:04
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 I'm not familiar with your posts so I'm not sure to take this at face value, but if I had to I would say you're a Republican poking fun at Liberals? Am I right? The Liberal credentials at the end seemed to give away the game. Although I guess if you're ultra left you may be really pissed at Obama, but then if you're ultra left, let's face it-no one has a snow balls chance in hell of ever making you happy.

As I said, surreal because of the patriotism which I never see from Libs at this forum in any way, shape or form. Yeah yeah....I know....last refuge and all that...whatever.

There are too many similarly-misguidedly angry posts floating around Winger-websites. nt, posted on November 6, 2009 at 07:33:47
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No Patriotism from the Liberals???, posted on November 6, 2009 at 04:58:13
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 How do you figure that and what exactly is your point? Sometimes you say the dumbest things and usually I go on to the next post but other times I wonder what you're actually thinking, or why you think what you do. But to say that NONE of the liberals here are in any shape or form patriotic is as absurd as most of your posts.

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apart from anything else that is a HUGE insult to American liberals who fought in WW2, posted on November 6, 2009 at 13:50:27
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 As opposed to the nutjobs who wanted to leave it alone.
But then he doesn't give a monkeys for America, just as long as he can sit in his nursing home, lose the last of his brain cells watching Pox News and play with his gun...
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My point is, posted on November 6, 2009 at 05:45:47
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 that Liberals don't seem to show much more than sullen contempt for the USA and I don't see any displays of sincere patriotism, however modest and understated though they may be. Of course, this is where you come in and show me the multitude of examples where I'm wrong.

At any rate, the claim of patriotism by the original poster caught me off guard and frankly I thought this could be a Conservaive just setting up gullable Liberals. That does happen from time to time and far more often than you probably realize.

"Liberals don't seem to show much more than sullen contempt for the USA": LIAR, posted on November 6, 2009 at 12:26:02
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 Over and over, your hatred and stupidity shine through lie shit on bone china.
Your desire to drag America down into the hole you live in is sad and suggests you are seriously in danger of some sort of collapse, mate.
You are one unfortunate inmate.
At least the last word might well show where your future lies.
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it's an odd POV, posted on November 6, 2009 at 09:56:42
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 JFK, liberal icon, said ask what you can do for your country. Reagan, conservative icon, said government IS the problem.

Is love of country just supposed to mean love of the dirt and the scenery? Or is our system of government included?

Many people who call themselves conservatives show complete contempt for our government. Tim McVeigh, self styled patriot, bombed a federal building to kill government employees. Other self styled patriots don't pay income tax and have guns ready to kill any government agents that try to arrest them.

I don't know how this really is patriotism, except to a fantasy version of some sort of true America. Liberals generally like our system of government and strongly support it. That seems like patriotism to me.

Well said, posted on November 6, 2009 at 12:28:48
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 The right wing nut jobs are self deluded but the "normal" right wing find it convenient to have them running round spouting about what it is to be "American"... as if they cared.
There loathing and hatred for America and what is used to stand for is sickening.
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And an example of your supposed patriotism is...?, posted on November 6, 2009 at 07:12:54
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 Accusing your fellow Americans with differing political views of a lack of patriotism?

Dave

Umm...no, but remember the part of my post when I wrote, posted on November 6, 2009 at 07:24:24
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 "I thought this could be a Conservaive just setting up gullable Liberals. That does happen from time to time and far more often than you probably realize"

Consider yourself punked, as it were.

As an aside, I noticed no one presented any examples of Liberals on this forum showing patriotism. Y'all was just bitchin' 'bout my's accusations.

so once again you think you are in the inner circle that others here aren't? you sad man, posted on November 6, 2009 at 12:31:13
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 You are delusional beyond words to describe.
You repeatedly claim to know things that others don't... hasn't your doctor/wife/boss ever pointed out that you are A RAVING LUNATIC?
You argue like a 6 year old.
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"I noticed no one presented any examples of Liberals on this forum showing patriotism", posted on November 6, 2009 at 07:30:55
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 Because your premise is absurd. It's an argument too stupid to engage.

"Punked" how?

Dave

Bingo., posted on November 6, 2009 at 08:15:18
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 Not only is it a straw man, but it's a cheap and tiresome one.

The right's phony patriotism and calling the left traitors quit playing with anyone other than mouth-breathing Glenn Beck disciples a long time ago.
the nearest the wingers get to patriotism is carrying guns, posted on November 6, 2009 at 23:06:41
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 Obviously a great step forward... oh, sorry,actually nothing to do with patriotism. OK, so they don't want to go forward, don't believe things can get better and insist people live in ignotrance.
Hey... cool typo... ;-)

But where are the examples of winger patriotism?
The unibomber?
The Iraq invasion?
They are empty vessels.
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Thick AND slow......sa-weet!, posted on November 6, 2009 at 07:49:39
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Perhaps a good dose of prune juice will set you to rights, posted on November 6, 2009 at 12:53:07
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 PErhaps not.
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RE: My point is, posted on November 6, 2009 at 06:43:45
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 I've enjoyed being away from this forum but couldn't let this pass. Eventually, the truth surfaces. Of course, only politically and socially conservative citizens are patriots. I knew that was how you felt but it is good to hear it directly from you. I'm headed back to Plymouth and Hyannis Port. Have an all-American day!


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LIberals do not equate "war" with "displays of sincere patriotism" like the neocons seem to do..., posted on November 6, 2009 at 05:50:12
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 Love for country and Peace are other ways to demonstrate patriotism. Neocons accusing Liberals of being unpatriotic simply because their points of views contrast with the neocons are simply being Anti-American. :)

Your post looks more like a hysterical spinsterīs than anything else, dear... (nt), posted on November 6, 2009 at 02:06:02
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I can only hope Michael Moore makes a demeaning movie out of it., posted on November 6, 2009 at 01:11:38
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 LOL LOL..Good luck Barack.
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RE: the response to my angry post has been pathetically predicatable, but for someone watching the news, posted on November 5, 2009 at 21:18:12
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 networks all afternoon the very first reports of this incidendt included a possible terrorist attack...if that had been the case the inability of this President to address a confused nation would be pathetic...for those messianic followers of this man who seem unable to gleen the apparent facts of Barrack Obama's retreat from his campaign promises on issue after issue, I am truly sorry...if those are the nuances of governing in the U.S.A. I cannot see any great hope in a successful next three years...

We all want a perfect president but the fact remains..., posted on November 6, 2009 at 02:18:42
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 The POTUS can can only do so much. Yes he is the leader of the nation but he still has to work with others to get things done. There is a far right wing opinion that somehow got too much airplay and somehow scared some of the moderates in congress in regards to health care. I could care less that the Republicans are acting like morons though I wish they wouldn't, but it's their choice to do so and they do still have a say in Washington.

I will be angry if 2 wars don't end soon but I also can't see a direct pullout either, that would be foolish. I agree that Obama needs to put more pressure on for the things he believes in and what he campaigned for but there is a real mess in this country and that mess will not get fixed overnight or in a matter of months.

As far as Obama dropping everything and going on national TV to calm the country, that wasn't necessary in my opinion. Just seeing what was going on was obvious to me, another kook gone wild. Terrorism is and will always be brought up every time a plane crashes, some nut goes on a rampage, so on and so forth, it's the first thing the media do, they're alarmists and they want you to stay glued to TV to watch them. The commercial news/media stations live for a disaster of any kind and it's up to us to realize what's real and what's being spun out of control.

I commend Bush for doing things how he did them on 9/11. He was in a school with a bunch of kids, didn't start freaking out and creating a scene. He quietly got out of there at the right time and did what he had to do once he knew what was actually taking place. And that was much different than what happened at Fort Hood.

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If if if., posted on November 5, 2009 at 21:35:38
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 Likely that the president knew the exact nature of this incident from pretty much the moment it started, despite what the media outlets might have been telling you otherwise.

RE: exacltly my point, and in that case it is the POTUS duty to reassure a confused nation...there is no, posted on November 5, 2009 at 21:46:13
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 getting around this fact...as for the if, if, if...It has become true, true , true that Obama has done nothing to stop the war in Iraq, he waffles on Afghanistan, he does not lead on the health insurance front, abandoning the single payer option, ready to jetison the public option, he pays lip service only to DADT and DOMA, he voted against the FISA bill at the end of last years primary season...Do you detect a pattern of behavior here?... Am I unhinged to recognize these facts?...If we had only elected the Obama of the campaign with his bold message instead of what is becoming a huge dissappointment...

he did, he laughed at Fox, what more do you want?, posted on November 6, 2009 at 12:32:42
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 Fox wants to drag America down and Obama stands against it.
Which side are you on?
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Well, I'm pretty frustrated about a lot of that stuff, too., posted on November 5, 2009 at 22:34:25
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 But I don't think anything he did today was worthy of such vitriol, and whatever we have in Obama with respect to those items is far better than the alternative.
What a spectacle., posted on November 5, 2009 at 21:10:00
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 Thanks to the NRA and other lobbying ventures, mass murder sprees take place in the US about once every four months...so, is it really that big of a deal?

Now, I can see getting a little frustrated with things, you know, with the economy not having made a full recovery, there's still some wars, maybe your boyfriend just dropped you, or girlfriend, or whatever applies to you, or maybe you are just having a bad day. But to come completely unglued like this?

Get a hold of yourself, man.
You need to go back to Outside.. nt, posted on November 5, 2009 at 20:28:58
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You need to go shopping. nt, posted on November 5, 2009 at 19:56:05
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Damned if YOU don't sound like someone that is prone to go on a shooting rampage...N/T, posted on November 5, 2009 at 19:51:54
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Give me an F-ing break! Are you REALLY going to try to spin this into Obama's MY Pet Goat moment???, posted on November 5, 2009 at 18:55:42
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 When the Towers were falling?? Oh. My. Darwin. What nutty right-wing psycho website did you get this from??? Tragedy though it was, I can't imagine anyone but peasants unable to realize the general limitations of a man, or some men with guns.

Moreover, the implication is that Obama doesn't care about the troops: 1)Obama signed-off on the most generous GI Bill in History, and 2) he just signed-off on a nice military pay-raise. I can assure you that the Military would rather have the extra cash to feed and cloth their dependents, than to watch a goofball fly in with a Mission Accomplished banner.

Were you mad when our troops got electrocuted in Haliburton showers? Did you think that showers all of the world were rigged to electrocute people? I don't remember Bush calling for a moment of silence. What a pathetic joke.

Yes, Obama had four days advanced warning of this calamity and chose to vacation in Crawford, Texas..., posted on November 5, 2009 at 19:01:00
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 Maybe he will fly over Fort Hood in Air Force One and waggle his wings for them, like Shrub would!
DON'T say "waggle his wings" here!!!, posted on November 5, 2009 at 19:22:01
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 Half a dozen inmates will be hopping up and down furious that anyone else can be a winger and volunteering to waggle for... for... does the REpublican party have anything resembling a elader these days, or is the headless chicken tactic going to run till the next election?
Which for any right wingers still confused, is approximately 3 years away..
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What attack on the USA? You are pathetic and should be ashamed, posted on November 5, 2009 at 18:02:50
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 There was NO attack on the USA.
No one is spooked especially you.
You choose to use the tragic deaths of US servicemen to make some half baked political point.
I couldn't care less whether you claim to be left, right or pointy headed, your use of these deaths is pathetic.
You should be ashamed.
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RE: Erroneous babble from someone half way around the world who certainly was not watching the American press, posted on November 5, 2009 at 22:54:43
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 all afternoon as these events unfolded....

And he failed to save those three girls trapped in a motor vehicle who drowned!, posted on November 5, 2009 at 17:50:59
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 Obama must be stopped.
RE: And he failed to save those three girls trapped in a motor vehicle who drowned!, posted on November 6, 2009 at 01:22:22
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 And he failed to save those three girls trapped in a motor vehicle who drowned!
That sounds like historic democratic agenda,letting young girls drown in automobiles. Does Chappaquiddick ring a bell with any deceased Dems?
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I loved the way BUsh jumped in front of those planes in New York and stopped them hitting the WTC..., posted on November 5, 2009 at 18:09:13
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 Errrr.... I'll go back to my lunch now.
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Not Bush, it was obviously Clinton who was to blame for 9/11., posted on November 5, 2009 at 18:48:56
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 How it works for the teabagger is thusly:

Anything bad that happened in Shrub's time in the high chair was Clinton's fault. Even Carter's.

Anything bad that happened after 2006 was Congress's fault.

Anything bad that happened from election day 2008 onward is Obama's fault.

Teabaggers got it down.

There has to be a neurotransmitter problem or virus they share when they sniff each other's ass as they meet.
RE: Not Bush, it was obviously Clinton who was to blame for 9/11., posted on November 6, 2009 at 01:34:41
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 Well who is ever is the blame for 911 is beyond me but.why the hell are using a technics receiver on those gorgeous dual pairs of 2+2s Acoustats with the Medallion transformers of all things. I would imagine when you crank that baby up into distortion,it probably sparks flames inside the panels with that thing.Those are very nice speakers as are the apogees but you need to get a set of Acoustat servo tube amps and you will be pleasantly surprised.
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OF COURSE!!! The Republicans have never been described as responsible!!, posted on November 5, 2009 at 19:23:21
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Oh no! America under attack!, posted on November 5, 2009 at 17:35:54
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What in the world!!!, posted on November 5, 2009 at 17:29:42
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 As tragic as this is it certainly wasn't an attack on America along the lines of 9/11 as you must think. The guy was obviously a kook and flipped out, probably because he was being sent to Iraq. And to say that Obama should have stopped in his tracks and declared a national emergency, which apparently you think should have happened, would be absolutely insane.
RE: As speculation was rampant all over the network and cable news channels, I certainly do expect the POTUS, posted on November 5, 2009 at 23:14:06
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 to stop in his tracks and address the country with the known facts...was Barrack suddenly camera shy?...

RE: What in the world!!!, posted on November 5, 2009 at 18:04:24
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 The shooter was a military mental health doctor.
Oh my!

Not one to promote an excess of adjectives ..., posted on November 5, 2009 at 17:01:44
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RE: how droll..., posted on November 5, 2009 at 23:17:49
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gimme a break, posted on November 5, 2009 at 17:00:15
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 I dug a little and found before he was even elected you were joking that his messages were "approved" by "Karl Marx."

To some people, our president is evil incarnate and some even believe he is the Anti-christ. They lose no opportunity to find a reason in the daily news to criticize him.

This is a particularly weak reason, but I guess there was nothing worse to pin on him today.

RE: I Am Angry, as Hell...on the nearly Anniversary Date of Barack Obama 's election to the Presidency of the, posted on November 5, 2009 at 16:59:54
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 Did you skip a dose today? Did you take the blue pills instead of the red ones? Texas is a state not the nation, or am I missing something?

The nation was under an unknown attack ??? ..., posted on November 5, 2009 at 16:44:12
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 The nation ???

I must be watching the wrong news channel, I thought it was a base in Texas ...I had no idea the entire nation was under attack.

I in no way mean to belittle this horrendous situation, but the NATION was not under attack.




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RE: The nation was under an unknown attack ??? ..., posted on November 6, 2009 at 02:44:27
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