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Posted on November 7, 2009 at 20:55:23
JoshT
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Thought I'd turn to the group for some advice.

Awhile back a friend and I took a stab at building a Juicy Music Tercel phono preamp. Well . . . it didn't work when we'd finished it.

Mark Deneen (owner of Juicy Music) agreed to make it work, for a very reasonable charge, even though he'd shut his doors in the interim. And he did, but the thing has always had a bit of a hum. In my 2 channel only system it is not so bad, and is pretty much covered by the music for the most part.

But today my brother and I hooked it up to my HT/Multi channel/2 channel system, and the hum was really obvious and quite loud (maybe it's the Klipsch speakers that are particularly sensitive?). It seems like your typical 60 cycle hum coming through the speakers, and goes up with the volume and is silent with the volume all the way down.

The ground wire was on tightly (I removed it to test and the hum got a lot louder), so it's not that.

Also, the hum is quite a bit louder in the left channel then in the right, and it is equally present using either of the Tercel's 2 inputs.

I suppose there is a bad soldering joint in there somewhere maybe? I can't really send it back to Mark because I've waited a long time and the shipping alone will be expensive, and I can't imagine finding the problem myself. There's a local guy who would probably not charge much, but I thought I'd turn to VA first for any suggestions.

Thanks in advance!
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Possible ground loop...., posted on November 8, 2009 at 09:21:53
Salectric
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If the Tercel uses a 3-wire AC plug, chances are that you have a ground loop through the wall power lines. It's easy to test this. Just attach what's called a "cheater plug" adaptor to the wall socket end of the Tercel's power cord. The cheater plug is designed to allow a 3-wire plug to be attached to an old 2-wire AC wall outlet. The cheater plug has a short wire or metal lead coming out of it that you can attach to the wall socket screw for a ground connection. Leave the ground connection unattached, and plug the Tercel's 3-connector plug into it. This will disable the Tercel's chassis connection to the wall socket ground.

If the hum goes away with the adaptor, you know it was caused by a ground loop. The adaptor plug is really not a longterm option for safety reasons, but a technician could do some rewiring of the Tercel's circuit which would solve the problem, namely, floating the circuit's electrical ground from the chassis ground with a 10 ohm resistor. Not a big deal, but the first step is confirming that the hum is due to a ground loop; there's no benefit in rewiring the circuit if it won't solve the hum problem.

Dave

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