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Gobsmacked! Everything I know is wrong!

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Posted on November 3, 2009 at 14:11:17
olddude55
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 A friend of mine at work asked me to rip some of her gospel albums to CD.
The records are a mess, not just dirty but full of scratches and gouges. One of them was so filthy, the Disc Doctor brush was pushing a slimy gray bow-wave ahead of it.
No way was I going to rip these using any decent cartridge in my box. No, the only cart perfect for the job was the miserable little Pickering P/AT-1 that's been literally knocking around the bottom of my cartridge box unprotected for the last few years.
Hey, guess what? That P/AT-1 is not a bad cartridge at all. A friend of mine used one back in the early-1970s and I always hated the damned thing, but it actually handled those wrecked gospel albums with perfect aplomb. It can't produce space and detail like my "real" carts, but it has a nice smooth midrange and lots of punch. I spun one of my own records with it when I was done ripping and was pleasantly surprised.
Sometimes the last shall be first, or at least I won't be tossing this cartridge that's for damned sure.
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From the Industrial Hub of the Mid-Mon Valley!
"Gobsmacked". I love that word. Great example of onomatopoeia. n/t, posted on November 4, 2009 at 05:24:58
ecl876
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I know what you mean, posted on November 3, 2009 at 19:23:31
robertkeir
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 A couple of years ago I acquired a Shure M3D. Unfortunately, the stylus was mangled. When I recently put in an order from JICO for their new SAS replacement stylus for the V-15VMR, I also ordered a new stylus for the M3D for an extra $19. I had always been somewhat curious about it. I now have it on a spare turntable, and I am really amazed at how good it sounds.

RE: I know what you mean, posted on November 4, 2009 at 14:26:30
Crazy Dave
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 The M3D really has a cult following. A lot of people really like it. I am keeping my eye out for one.

Dave

From our time together Outside, posted on November 3, 2009 at 15:20:55
Paully
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 I am so glad you finally realized that! ;)

Nyuk, nyuk., posted on November 3, 2009 at 15:52:37
olddude55
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 Outside. What a concept.
I swear some of those guys sit at the PC 24/7.
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From the Industrial Hub of the Mid-Mon Valley!
My blood pressure went down 50 points, posted on November 3, 2009 at 16:44:17
Paully
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 after I stopped going there, I wasn't handling it well! Anyway, I like it in here a lot better. I think I signed off over 6 months ago, at least, and haven't posted there since. Anyway, enough off topic. Just wanted to give you some goo natured ribbing.

Same here., posted on November 3, 2009 at 16:59:25
olddude55
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 I don't even lurk there.
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From the Industrial Hub of the Mid-Mon Valley!
I think it is a sign of maturity, posted on November 3, 2009 at 17:05:47
Paully
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 At least that is what I am going with.

In my case "maturity" means "getting old." nt, posted on November 3, 2009 at 17:10:33
olddude55
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 nt
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From the Industrial Hub of the Mid-Mon Valley!
Stop it!!!, posted on November 3, 2009 at 17:24:22
Ivan303
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 You guys are KILLING me! =:-0


built for it?, posted on November 3, 2009 at 14:33:07
trav
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 My analog experience doesn't go back very far, but I wonder if some of those older carts are better at playing damaged records then our dainty, persnickity Big Boy stuff. Even if they don't sound as good, just being able to play those damaged records is nothing to sneeze at. They had to have been built fairly tough since they were aimed squarely at Joe Average and not the listening dungeon.

And what kinda gospel? Was it the cool stuff or the average Goodwill gospel finds? I keep meaning to get around to Sam Cooke and people like that before they went secular.

RE: built for it?, posted on November 4, 2009 at 07:37:22
cactuscowboy@bresnan.net
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 Customers bring me all sorts of LPs for transfer to CD-R, from pristine to roadkill. For the really trashed discs, I use a Stanton 500 with 0.7 mil conical stylus, tracking at five grams. It doesn't have quite the level of detail and clarity that my more expensive cartridges offer, but it does sound very good and it will track some of the most damaged records I've ever played.

someday, posted on November 4, 2009 at 08:03:49
trav
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 When I've got some cash to spare, I think I'm going to pick up a cheap TT and a cart like the Stanton you mentioned so I can play all those questionable looking 45s I see around for cheap. Could be good inexpensive fun.

Cantilever like a bridge girder., posted on November 3, 2009 at 14:50:31
olddude55
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 3 grams VTF and so much output that I needed to put an attenuator between the tape out and the sound card.
The music is Myrna Summers from the Church of God in Christ. I'm an atheist, but still found the music enjoyable. The stuff is archived, so I can make my own copies whenever I want.
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From the Industrial Hub of the Mid-Mon Valley!
me too!, posted on November 3, 2009 at 18:45:07
trav
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 I've avoided gospel in the past, both from being an atheist and from hearing some truly dreadful Christian music. But then I heard some really interesting gospel/religious recordings in old timey collections (Anthology of American Folk Music and the like) and people like Rev Charlie Jackson and Sister Rosetta Tharpe. The gospel to secular soul music switch some of the artists made has me interested in some of the post WWII but pre-schmaltz era.

"so much output that I needed to put an attenuator..." ah, man, now you bring up the whole argument of did we lose something going LOMC argument again. I wonder...

RE: me too!, posted on November 4, 2009 at 09:12:04
JimL
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 The old timey gospel music - Swing Low, Sweet Chariot, Amazing Grace, etc. - back when people were putting their heart and soul into it and it really meant something beyond getting a paycheck - that's the real deal. You know, Amazing Grace was written by a reformed slave trader, hence the power behind those words.

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