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A visit to Soundsmith

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Posted on July 26, 2009 at 12:05:06
Rob Doorack
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On Saturday July 25 Peter Ledermann graciously hosted a visit of the Connecticut Audio Society to his Soundsmith factory and showroom in Peeksill, NY. Although Soundsmith kept a relatively low profile until recently, the company has been in business for several decades. Originally an audio equipment repair facility (Soundsmith did all of Tandberg's US repairs, for example), Soundsmith expanded to producing a line of phono cartridges based on Bang and Olufsen's moving iron design. Soundsmith now offers phono preamps, speakers, power amps, a highly regarded retipping service, and a unique strain gauge phono cartridge system. Soundsmith is also a school where young people are mentored in the art of audio repair. According to Peter, over 35 students have been trained in his program and gone on to reapir jobs with other companies. Oh, and in his spare time Peter runs DirectGrace Records. A large portion of the DirectGrace's sales goes to charities to rescue some of the world's 245 million children held in slavery. Buy a DirectGrace record and you feed a child for a month.

Mr. Ledermann was an very entertaining and gregarious host. After lunch and a tour of the phono cartridge assembly area, the CAS spent several hours listening to records we'd brought on Peter's demo system. The turntable was a VPI HRX with JMW 12.7 and Schröder Reference arms. The Schröder held Soundsmith's strain gauge cartridge while the JMW carried a prototype of Soundsmith's new $4500 low output Cicero moving iron cartridge. The Cicero was amplified by Soundsmith's MCP2 MC head amp. The preamp was Soundsmith's SG810 and the power amp was Soundsmith's 300 watts per channel model. We mostly listened to Soundsmith's Monarch speaker. The Monarch had a surprisingly big sound and played deeper than you'd expect from its 6" woofer. I'd heard the strain gauge cartridge before and was once again awed by its incredible dynamics.

I had a chat with Peter about cartridge maintenance. He said that occaisonal application of a liquid stylus cleaner is OK but a dry brush should be used for most routine cleaning. We don't really know what is in most stylus cleaning fluids. The epoxy used to hold stylii to cantilevers is hygroscopic which means that it could conceivably absorb tiny amounts of a water based stylus cleaner, expanding the epoxy. Subsequent use of the cartridge would heat up the stylus and drive off the water, causing the epoxy to shrink again. Over time this could cause the stylus to loosen in the cantilever.

The highlight of the visit for me was watching Peter cut a lacquer dub on one of his two Neumann lathes. DirectGrace's LPs are recorded in Soundsmith's showroom and mastered by Peter. A dub is a 12" lacquer cut from the master tape and is usually used for checking the sound of the recording. A master for LP production is normally cut on a 14" lacquer disc; the pressing plant trims the disc to size. Peter cut two tracks from guitarist John Hart at 45RPM and then played it for us. It was an astounding experience to hear a first generation disc. There was no surface noise at all - according to Peter a new dub has a signal to noise ratio of 90db. I've never heard anything like it. Peter's minimalist recording technique and the strain gauge cartridge's explosive sound made Hart materialize back in the room with us.

The visit to Soundsmith was a great deal of fun and very educational. I'd like to thank Peter Ledermann and the rest of his staff for their generosity and hospitality. He's a special guy.


Peter Ledermann speaking to the Connecticut Audio Society.


Peter's VPI HRX.


Soundsmith preamps. The small box on top is the upcoming lower - priced strain gauge preamp that lacks the cool monitoring
displays of the pricier models, but Peter says it sounds identical to them. In the background on the window sill are two
power supplies for SG cartridges.


The cartridge assembly room at Soundsmith.


Workstation where cantilevers and elastomers are attached to the iron cross that gives moving iron cartridges their name.
This station is also where stylii are inserted into cantilevers.


Another view of the iron assembly workstation.


Trays of stylus guards and cartridge bodies wait to be assembled.


The components of a Soundsmith MI cartridge.


Cartridge coil assemblies.


Workstation where coils are cold - welded to the output wires. The coil wires are a miniscule 1 mil in diameter.
Ledermann invented a new way to do the welding. Over 50,000 welds have been done with not one failure in the field!


Test bench for finished cartridges.


Bench where Soundsmith speakers are assembled.


Soundsmith's Neumann record cutting lathe.


The lathe's control panels. The left hand buttons start and stop the platter, turn on the drive to spiral the cutting head inward,
add a gap between tracks, and automatically cut the run - out groove. The buttons on the right set the speed. The rotary
controls at the bottom are for manually adjusting the groove pitch which is only done during direct - to - disc cutting.


Neumann cutting head.


Bottom view of cutting head. The amber hose carries helium to the head to cool it.


Soundsmith's primary lathe is equipped with the ultra - rare Technics replacement motor.

Rack of electronics for that drive the lathe and cutter head. Peter plans to replace the original Neumann cutting amps
with new ones of his own design. He's also planning to design his own inverse RIAA equalizer to replace the Neumann one.


Peter Ledermann cleaning the cutting stylus with acetone prior to cutting the John Hart dub. Note the smooth surface of the lacquer disc on the platter.


Soundsmith's Neumann lathe at work.


Peter's second Neumann lathe came from The Hit Factory. It's a historic machine - it was used to cut the masters for records
by The Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Madonna.

 

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Thanks, cool stuff. /nt, posted on July 26, 2009 at 12:11:23
Biff
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Outstanding!, posted on July 26, 2009 at 12:32:16
I'm a happy Soundsmith customer and hope to be again someday.

 

Got yer eye on one of them strain gauge carts, heh there OD?? /nt\, posted on July 26, 2009 at 12:34:22


 

Wow - thanks. Fantastic post and pics!!!, posted on July 26, 2009 at 12:40:54
Maniac
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much appreciated.

 

Way outta my price range., posted on July 26, 2009 at 12:42:04
The SMMC2, though...heh, heh.

 

Great write-up and photos!, posted on July 26, 2009 at 12:46:27
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Thanks for posting this! I'm another happy customer of Soundsmith and this confirms what I've experienced, that Peter Ledermann runs a first class operation.

 

Beautiful job and thanks for sharing!, posted on July 26, 2009 at 13:01:55
Muzikmike
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I've exchanged a couple e-mails with Peter and found him to be an exceptionally interestED man; interested in his work and his customers,and more importantly, interested with mankind.

I'm sorry if that comes across as overdone or in any way implies I know him well, it's just a gathering of what I read and reading those few e-mails. I hope to send my Frankencartridge, the cartridge from hell, to him soon and see if he can do anything to ease its (and my own) woes.

I don't know why I'm waiting, it's not as if it's doing anything for me right now.

But I do need another cartridge and even his lower priced carts look incredibly attractive. And why buy another company's cartridge when one can buy from someone more "visable."
******************************

Music. Window or mirror?

 

Excellent post!!!, posted on July 26, 2009 at 13:43:15
Nicholas Renter
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Thank you!

 

Very interesting/informative/entertaining post and pics. Thanks! nt, posted on July 26, 2009 at 15:03:37
nt

 

Thanks Rob -, posted on July 26, 2009 at 16:06:39
kavakidd
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great pics and narrative. While some might think it crazy to spend more on a retip than on the original cartridge I did just that. Top o' the line Soundsmith on a Shure V-15VxMR. Nice!

Glad Peter appears to be back to health. I understand he had a terrible time for awhile.
"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

RE: A visit to Soundsmith, posted on July 26, 2009 at 17:03:07
siramazing
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Most interesting post.

I recently had a cartridge repaired by Peter, and although it took many months, it was worth the wait. He is obviously a meticulous craftsman who loves his work and is proud of his products. He would rather make his customers wait until something is ready, rather than rush through a job just to turn out product.
He is a credit to the hi-fi (stereo, high-end, audio?) business we all love so much.

Bill




I've studied deeply in the philosophies of the religions----but cheerfulness kept breaking through

Leonard Cohen

 

RE: A visit to Soundsmith, posted on July 26, 2009 at 17:59:31
BIGBLOCK
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Thank you,
Very nice pictures, what camera gear did you use?

Mike

 

I have heard that the wait has been substantially reduced, posted on July 26, 2009 at 18:41:32
kavakidd
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since his return to (relative) health. Mine, too, took several months but was well worth the wait.
"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

 

RE: A visit to Soundsmith, posted on July 26, 2009 at 18:48:15
Marc Bratton
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I'm gettin' a woodie, just looking at those pics of that Neumann cutting lathe! Glad it was rescued from the Hit Factory by somebody who knows what the hell to do with it. I will NEVER buy ANYthing that says "JVC" on it because those corporate morons deliberately DESTROYED a lot of beautiful mastering equipment because 'it wasn't worth moving'. Knuckle dragging trogdolytes...maybe they molder in MBA yuppy hell, with a Britney CD on infinite repeat...played to pure distortion levels on a JVC boombox.

 

Thanks for posting......(nt), posted on July 26, 2009 at 18:50:08
vinylkid58
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Nikon D40 with an 18 - 55mm lens, posted on July 26, 2009 at 19:10:43
Rob Doorack
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I did some mild color correction and reduced the image size with Photoshop. The D40 is a hell of a camera for the price.

 

Correction: Soundsmith's new top of the line cartridge is named The Sussurro, posted on July 26, 2009 at 19:18:38
Rob Doorack
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I misheard what Peter said. Sussurro is Italian for "whisper." It's a low output (.3mV), low compliance moving iron cartridge.

 

RE: A visit to Soundsmith, posted on July 26, 2009 at 19:48:52
J.D.
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Interesting visit, nice photos.

Think you might've worked in the word 'swarf' here, though.

Oh, and, a couple hundred lps stored on .. a window-sill.. ?







housepet in a box ©

 

RE: swarf, posted on July 26, 2009 at 20:08:36
Rob Doorack
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Peter referred to the material cut from the lacquer disc as "the thread." As the cutter plows through the lacquer the removed material apparently comes off in a long continuous string. The Neumann lathe has a vacuum tube behind the cutting stylus that pulls the thread away. If for some reason the thread doesn't get sucked up and falls onto the engraved part of lacquer the disc is ruined. Peter said that one trick in case of a dropped thread was to use a can of compressed air and blow the thread onto the spindle. If you're lucky the thread will harmlessly wrap itself around the spindle.

 

Was wondering if anyone else noticed that., posted on July 26, 2009 at 21:21:18
powermatic
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The 'window sill record storage unit'.

Not to take away from the cool pictorial and documentary. Much appreciated.



"dammit"

 

Wow!! Great post. Thanks. nt, posted on July 26, 2009 at 21:31:47
hcman
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RE: Nikon D40 with an 18 - 55mm lens, posted on July 27, 2009 at 02:27:02
BIGBLOCK
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Great job with the D40, looks like no flash used.

Mike

 

I don't know Peter..., posted on July 27, 2009 at 05:02:46
EdAInWestOC
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But I have exchange numerous emails with him when I was adding some of his products to the Cartridge Database.

My impression of the man is that he is an honest dedicated individual who attempts to actually provide quality product and services. Somewhat a throwback in today's business environment. I hope he finds continued success in a tough business environment.

Please help by buying his products and utilizing his services.

Thanks,
Ed

PS. I am in no way associated with Sound Smith or Peter Ledermann. This is just my honest opinion.
Life is analog...digital is just samples thereof

 

RE: I have heard that the wait has been substantially reduced, posted on July 27, 2009 at 06:30:15
siramazing
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Well, mine took 7 months. I would still do the same thing again.


I've studied deeply in the philosophies of the religions----but cheerfulness kept breaking through

Leonard Cohen

 

RE: Beautiful job and thanks for sharing!, posted on July 27, 2009 at 06:32:18
siramazing
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I agree with that. Support the guys who are providing us with a quality product and keeping this hobby (passion) alive.

Bill




I've studied deeply in the philosophies of the religions----but cheerfulness kept breaking through

Leonard Cohen

 

Peter Ledermann has a lot of records in his showroom, posted on July 27, 2009 at 09:47:19
Rob Doorack
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Peter is a serious vinyl collector. There are rows of records on the floor and records on the windowsills. Vintage audio fans will think Soundsmith is heaven on earth. There was so much great stuff on the shelves in the showroom and the repair department next door that it was almost numbing. I had been there for a couple of hours before I noticed the Marantz 10B hiding in plain sight on a rack below a Yamaha PX2 turntable. You could hardly walk around the place without literally stumbling over something like a Mac MC2500.

 

Lower priced Strain Gauge Pre ... that might seal the deal !, posted on July 27, 2009 at 10:35:32
3Fates
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Did you get any details on the new preamplifier? I heard OMA is also developing a more affordable strain gauge preamplifier. Love to hear the details on this. Any info to share?

 

RE: Lower priced Strain Gauge Pre ... that might seal the deal !, posted on July 27, 2009 at 10:51:34
Rob Doorack
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I believe Peter said the new preamp would be $5500 which includes the cartridge. I think that's $2000 less than the current least expensive strain gauge package.

 

RE: Peter personnaly called me to discuss the retipping, posted on July 27, 2009 at 13:52:02
juud
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Peter is a very nice person. I sent my Dynavector 17D2 for retipping last year. He ,then, personnaly called me to discuss the options of retipping my 17D2. I am a happy customer.

 

RE: A visit to Soundsmith, posted on July 28, 2009 at 09:01:30
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I want to thank Rob for his detailed and clear post, and also the entire gathering of the CAS; they were respectful, curious and very friendly, even though they didnt laugh at any of my jokes. The only casualty was the poor, sole woman to my left who soon glazed over and then lasped into a coma during my chat, but was subsequantly revived by her husband. A very brave woman to attend.

I appreciate the mention of my DirectGrace Records project; some AA members have purchased records and commented on this forum in the past, and those who attended bought enough to rescue one child and feed them for almost one full year. All profits from sales are dontaed to rescue. It has been said that there is "no such thing as a disposable child". For those interested in the DirectGrace Record Project (a 501(c)3 charity), a short video can be watched at the Youtube link below.

I can personally cut individuallly made laquer dubs of any of the projects we have recorded for those who wish to own them. They are $150 for a double album, and $100 for a single. All profits again, go to rescue a child from slavery. It takes $33/month to save one child.

Many thanks to all who commented below - we work hard & stay up late doing so becasue we love this as much as you do. Music does animate the beauty of life.

Peter Ledermann/President/Soundsmith

 

Bravo Soundsmith, posted on July 28, 2009 at 19:53:44
sleeper
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Peter saved me a ton of money by fixing a broken coil lead on my Sumiko Blackbird! It sings as good as new. And he was very gracious in the face of my pestering emails. Soundsmith is the real deal!

 

RE: Bravo Soundsmith, posted on June 17, 2010 at 14:50:08
Poulpy
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Hi,

It seems that you found a solution to my problem.

I ripped off the coil lead on my Sumiko Blackbird.
I called Sumiko and they could only propose me a trade-in for 500$.
I will call Soudsmith tomorrow.

How much did they charge you for such a repair?

Thanks you for your help.

Regards

Mat

 

the problem is with the jokes, posted on October 10, 2014 at 16:34:56
Penguin
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i assume the presentation was flawless.

Cool that you actually posted, thanks :).


dee
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thanks for, posted on October 11, 2014 at 10:05:26
hifitommy
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coming back Mike!
...regards...tr

 

RE: A visit to Soundsmith, posted on October 11, 2014 at 10:48:40
shallow pockets
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Rob, thanks for putting together a detailed thread of your visit to the Soundsmith facility.

 

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