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Guess where this ripoff originates

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Posted on December 27, 2016 at 18:16:29
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Designed and engineered in California, made in......................(nt), posted on December 27, 2016 at 19:09:54
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RE: Guess where this ripoff originates, posted on December 28, 2016 at 13:11:19
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Where can I get it from?...)

 

RE: Guess where this ripoff originates, posted on December 28, 2016 at 13:19:50
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Try here? I mean the link below.

 

RE: Guess where this ripoff originates, posted on December 28, 2016 at 23:02:23
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Is that trademark in the public domain?


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Less a rip off than calling Russian tubes "Mullard", "Tung-Sol" and "Genelex". Nt, posted on December 30, 2016 at 15:10:42
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Nt

 

RE: Less a rip off than calling Russian tubes "Mullard", "Tung-Sol" and "Genelex". Nt, posted on December 30, 2016 at 18:00:59
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Except the Russian tubes clearly say "Made In Russia" on them, either on the base or the glass. And while I prefer not to see it happen as well, New Sensor purchased the names so it was done perfectly legally.

So if you and I don't like it that's one thing. To call it a "rip off" seems over the top though.

 

Jim, I would respectfully disagree........., posted on January 2, 2017 at 16:08:16
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.....why would you prefer that they don't do it? Is it because you find it deceptive, as I do? If it is deceptive, IMHO, it is a rip off. And I have no dog in this hunt as you do.

 

RE: Jim, I would respectfully disagree........., posted on January 3, 2017 at 08:54:30
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No, I prefer they don't do it simply as a nod to history. I don't like the products like LED bulbs called "Sylvania" or lesser quality small home appliances labeled "Sunbeam" or "Emerson", and so on. They don't seem appropriate to me. And while it's less of a factor now, I hate having to label the current production versions all the time so they aren't confused with old stock. Of course I have to do that with Svetlana as well.

Hey - in the old days RCA used to sell a LOT of tubes labeled RCA that were actually GE, Sylvania, Ei, Japanese, or even Russian made tubes. Were those tubes "rip-offs" since they weren't really made by RCA? And they rarely even correctly identified the maker or country of origin! RCA wasn't alone in doing this relabeling either. Was RCA "ripping off" purchasers of these tubes?

Don't even HINT at the idea that I feel like this because I sell tubes. That has NOTHING to do with it. ZERO, NIL. I sell tubes that I would use in my own gear, period. The name isn't a factor in my choice.

Sorry about the minor rant. I understand how you feel but the term "ripoff" simply seems over the top to me.

 

RE: Jim, I would respectfully disagree........., posted on January 3, 2017 at 10:16:11
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I do not get the rip off statement. All new amps have the cheapest new manufactured (not NOS) tubes installed. Picture clearly shows Russian getters in tubes.

 

RE: Guess where this ripoff originates, posted on January 3, 2017 at 12:50:42
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Ripoff to the Amperex Bugle Boy logo. The Bugle Boy logo is leaning backward. The one on the amp is leaning forward. Pretty sure all tubes come in that unit is made in China or Russia and nothing close to Amperex.

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I respect your esteemed opinion Jim, and you make a great point about RCA tubes..., posted on January 4, 2017 at 17:37:54
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several other makers did the same thing. I think that the mushroom pentodes were made for WE by Tung-Sol.

 

Sorry Sony it was not clear, the OP was speaking about the Bugle Boy logo. nt, posted on January 4, 2017 at 17:39:19
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RE: Sorry Sony it was not clear, the OP was speaking about the Bugle Boy logo. nt, posted on January 4, 2017 at 18:24:57
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BB logo does not mean amp comes with BB tubes. In fact where would the manufacture find that many NOS BB?

 

Does anyone know who owns the Bugle Boy tube logo? (nt), posted on January 4, 2017 at 19:04:39
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RE: Does anyone know who owns the Bugle Boy tube logo? (nt), posted on January 5, 2017 at 05:10:54
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I believe its Richardson Electronics from La Fox IL. IIRC they put the Bugle Boy logo on a bunch of Philips JAN tubes and sold them for high prices.

In terms of ownership that's the last I heard anyway.

 

The OP never said anything about tubes, where did you get that? Nt, posted on January 5, 2017 at 07:43:45
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Then isn't the rip off the use of the Bugle Boy tube logo.... , posted on January 5, 2017 at 08:15:44
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by whoever made the little amplifier shown? (unless they had Richardson's permission)


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