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Somebody HAD to get the last laugh…

24.116.186.171
Posted on August 4, 2009 at 16:06:36
Wellfed
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 Press Release

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Machina Dynamica Inc Receives 2009 Best of Falls Church Award

U.S. Commerce Association’s Award Plaque Honors the Achievement

WASHINGTON D.C., June 8, 2009 -- Machina Dynamica Inc has been selected for the 2009 Best of Falls Church Award in the Television, & Electronic Stores Radio category by the U.S. Commerce Association (USCA).

The USCA "Best of Local Business" Award Program recognizes outstanding local businesses throughout the country. Each year, the USCA identifies companies that they believe have achieved exceptional marketing success in their local community and business category. These are local companies that enhance the positive image of small business through service to their customers and community.

Various sources of information were gathered and analyzed to choose the winners in each category. The 2009 USCA Award Program focused on quality, not quantity. Winners are determined based on the information gathered both internally by the USCA and data provided by third parties.

About U.S. Commerce Association (USCA)

U.S. Commerce Association (USCA) is a Washington D.C. based organization funded by local businesses operating in towns, large and small, across America. The purpose of USCA is to promote local business through public relations, marketing and advertising.

The USCA was established to recognize the best of local businesses in their community. Our organization works exclusively with local business owners, trade groups, professional associations, chambers of commerce and other business advertising and marketing groups. Our mission is to be an advocate for small and medium size businesses and business entrepreneurs across America.

SOURCE: U.S. Commerce Association

PRICELESS, posted on October 9, 2009 at 13:18:20
Len_
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 My company "won" this award yesterday. Even more amazing is we won in a category we don't do business in. I'm going to plaster my windows, call my customers, and send out employee memos to announce this monumental achievement.

----------------------------------------------

I am pleased to announce that XXXX has been selected for the 2009 Best of XXXX Award in the XXXX category by the US Commerce Association. Award Image

In recognition of your achievement, a 2009 Best of XXXX Award has been designed for display at your place of business. You may arrange to have your award sent directly to XXXX by following the simple steps on the 2009 Best of XXXX Award order form. Simply copy and paste this link into your browser to receive your award:
http://www.us-commerce-association.net/XXXXX-XXXX

Each year, the US Commerce Association (USCA) identifies companies that we believe have achieved exceptional marketing success in their local community and business category. These are local companies that enhance the positive image of small business through service to their customers and community.

Also, a copy of the press release publicizing the selection of XXXX has been posted on our website. The USCA hereby grants XXXX a non-exclusive, royalty-free license to use, reproduce, distribute, and display this press release in any media formats and through any media channels.

An Award Code has been assigned to your company that can be used on our website for quick access to your award information and press release.

Your Award Code is: XXXX-XXXX

Sincerely,

Ashley Carter
Selection Committee Chair
US Commerce Association

RE: PRICELESS, posted on October 13, 2009 at 03:51:33
geoffkait
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 Did the category your company won in have anything to do with selling menupause medication by any chance?

RE: Somebody HAD to get the last laugh…And the winner is. . ., posted on August 13, 2009 at 18:26:31
Nietzschelover
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 All That Glitters? US Commerce Association Awards to Biz May Not Be What They Seem
As the press release posted as a warning to small businesses by the Better Business Bureau (to which this post is linked) makes clear, the USCA is running a scam meant to screw unsuspecting businesses.
It started sending out unsolicited emails to businesses during the first week of July, this year.
These emails are an attempt to phish for financial info, receive money paid to them to obtain the optional "Best of" plaque (vanity award), and god only knows what else.
However, it is not easy for the small business owner to discover this. Just ask the BBB.
It, the USCA (US Chamber of Commerce Association), really does exist in some form. And they are slick.
But, Geoff's not "punking" anyone.
He's the one who got punked.
Actually, the awards are real, in a sense.
It's just that they're meaningless.
Geoff's "press release" was posted July 8th. Just one day after the BBB article appeared on its website.
I doubt Geoff visits that site on a regular basis. But, who does?
Still, he really did receive an unsolicited award-- of a sort-- for which he did not pay.
So, he isn't telling any lies when he says he was awarded one.
And saying he received that award on his website is smart marketing, albeit a bit misleading.
Ironically, he's making money (?) off an attempt to rip him off.
I say, well done Geoff!

RE: Somebody HAD to get the last laugh…And the winner is. . ., posted on August 14, 2009 at 17:30:29
geoffkait
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 The Better Business Bureau. Now, there's an organization we can all believe in. LOL
I fell for a similar scam once, posted on August 11, 2009 at 13:38:12
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 I was "selected" as a "High School Who's Who" awards publications. IIRC, it cost me $99. But in my defense, I was 16 years old and didn't brag about it, especially once I realized I was scammed.

But that was then, this is now, posted on August 11, 2009 at 15:09:50
geoffkait
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 The difference being there was no cost to me in this case. Where is the scam? Why should I not accept graciously?

RE: But that was then, this is now, posted on August 12, 2009 at 13:10:41
Len_
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 So you didn't have to pay anything for the plaque or listing like everyone else?

RE: "So you didn't have to pay anything for the plaque?", posted on August 12, 2009 at 15:37:32
geoffkait
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 Why would I want the plaque? Or the listing?

RE: "So you didn't have to pay anything for the plaque?", posted on August 12, 2009 at 15:43:33
Len_
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 I assume for the same reason you advertise your "award" on your website.

RE: "So you didn't have to pay anything for the plaque?", posted on August 12, 2009 at 17:13:59
geoffkait
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 I don't think you get it. I do not have to pay for the right to use the award announcement on my web site. Doh!

Hey look, no straight answer, posted on August 13, 2009 at 12:22:38
badman
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 You haven't denied paying for it.



Bass is supposed to sound big. 6.5" is not a woofer size.


No matter what GK says..., posted on August 18, 2009 at 14:55:19
powermatic
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 the outfit in question will not send you a plaque for free. GK would have us believe many things, but that's patently false.





"dammit"
RE: No matter what GK says..., posted on August 19, 2009 at 03:15:04
geoffkait
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 Another person with poor reading comprehesion. I never said the plaque was free. Are you daft? Besides, so what if they charge for the plaque?

LOL! So, you didn't "pay anything", yet it "wasn't free". It's a riddle!, posted on August 19, 2009 at 07:03:15
powermatic
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 Please say you didn't sell your body Geoff. No phony-reward plaque, no matter how sumptuously bedecked with faux golden filigree, is worth a man losing what's most important-his reputation, and self respect.

And don't forget, this entire thread came about when your very, very close buddy started crowing about your fabulous new award. Reap what you sow my man.



"dammit"
RE: LOL! So, you didn't "pay anything", yet it "wasn't free". It's a riddle!, posted on August 19, 2009 at 11:37:18
geoffkait
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 What's so wrong with receiving an award? The award is free - I got one I didn't have to pay for it. The plaque is not free - yet I did not order one. Hel-looo! Do you have a learning disability?

No, I've been pretty clear about it-you "won" a non-competitive "award" from a company that will, posted on August 19, 2009 at 15:23:08
powermatic
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 bestow that "award" on anyone who asks, and will then sell them a plaque to commemorate this prestigious prize. And your head swelled with such pride that you had your boy WF waddle over to the keyboard and announce the glad tidings on AA. Doesn't that pretty well sum it up?

Congratulations-another MD business coup.



"dammit"
RE: No, I've been pretty clear about it-you "won" a non-competitive "award" from a company that will, posted on August 19, 2009 at 16:02:03
geoffkait
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 Are you daft? I did not ask for the award, I did not announce it and I did not order a plaque. For some bizarre reason (who knows with you little scamps) you simply cannot accept the fact I won the award, which I won fair and square. Furthermore, the award *was* competitive, they don't give them to just anyone. Only to outstanding small businesses. If you don't like it, lump it.

LOL!!! Okay, I'll say it-you're a bald-faced liar., posted on August 20, 2009 at 22:14:35
powermatic
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 You did not 'win' anything. To continue to make that claim just piles the horse shit on top of the bull shit. But then, how could we expect truth from the owner of a business built on the foundation of BS?

Keep digging GK-the hole just keeps getting deeper.



"dammit"
And I'll say you're thick as a brick, posted on August 21, 2009 at 03:10:18
geoffkait
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 I won fair and square. It was free. End of argument. You're a big bag of wind.

Winning implies competition, posted on August 28, 2009 at 15:33:52
badman
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 Who were you up against?



Bass is supposed to sound big. 6.5" is not a woofer size.


RE: "Winning implies competition" - Right, and I won., posted on August 29, 2009 at 14:22:04
geoffkait
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 In case you missed it, the announcement in the initial post contains the following:

"The USCA "Best of Local Business" Award Program recognizes outstanding local businesses throughout the country. Each year, the USCA identifies companies that they believe have achieved exceptional marketing success in their local community and business category. These are local companies that enhance the positive image of small business through service to their customers and community.

Various sources of information were gathered and analyzed to choose the winners in each category. The 2009 USCA Award Program focused on quality, not quantity. Winners are determined based on the information gathered both internally by the USCA and data provided by third parties."
Who were you up against?, posted on September 1, 2009 at 09:21:02
badman
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 http://www.bbb.org/us/WWWRoot/SitePage.aspx?site=70&id=f8f28945-b02b-46f1-a1cb-7d8810908369&art=5195

Winning means there's a loser. In this case, it's you. There's no loser apart from those who pay or claim to have "won" something, or those consumers influenced by such idiocy.

Who did you beat? They give them to whomever! If I call and ask they'll probably say "we need to review your business", then call me back next day and say "You're a winner!" and offer to send me a plaque.

Pathetic that you attempt to defend the indefensible, but then, you're the lowlife selling phone calls.





Bass is supposed to sound big. 6.5" is not a woofer size.


Apparently those that lost, posted on September 3, 2009 at 07:59:52
geoffkait
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 You're apparently too stupid to get it. I did not contact the org who gave the award. I did not pay for the award. I did not pay for a plaque, nor did I receive one. If you took the time to read the award announcement, which apparently you did not, you would realize the award is given to small businesses which the org finds worthy of such, according to their criteria. You're just too big a blowhard to give me credit for winning.

Something given has no value, posted on September 8, 2009 at 23:22:00
badman
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 You earned nothing, you just agreed to a form email.

Pathetic.



Bass is supposed to sound big. 6.5" is not a woofer size.


RE: "You just agreed to a form email.", posted on September 9, 2009 at 03:48:08
geoffkait
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 Do you have some sort of reading comprehension problem? If so, I will type slowly. I did not agree to a form email. I did not sign up for anything. I did not pay for anything. I received no plaque. Yet I won an award. Time to wake up from your dream of mediocrity.

Who did you beat? What were your qualifications?, posted on September 10, 2009 at 12:21:17
badman
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 Nobody and nothing?

That's not winning. By your definition, if I send you an email saying "You won the biggest asshole in the world award", that means you're the biggest asshole in the world!

More truthful than your silly award, but still bullshit.



Bass is supposed to sound big. 6.5" is not a woofer size.


RE: I beat the losers. I am wonderful., posted on September 10, 2009 at 12:52:31
geoffkait
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 I'm fairly certain there's a reason for your continuing hostility and stupidity, but I personally don't have the time or inclination to take your case right now but check back next week.

As I told you at least twice before, the award announcement explains how the winners are selected. You should notice that quite a few small, innovative and diverse companies will pop up if you search for USCA Award. I imagine the criteria for winning the award are superior marketing, product innovation and imagination. But hey, that's just me.
hmmm......so you are the provider of snake oil and tin hats...., posted on September 16, 2009 at 11:04:06
Oface
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 I was looking at your business/scam web-site or the ridiculous products you sell.....


He uses the moniker badman right? Think that answered part of your question......

Also when told him that you would type something slowly so he "would get it".. wouldn't really matter since the whole message arrived at the same time... giving, you say you are a aerospace engineer and all.


Do you use the credentials to propel the myths that you try and pander... or is you siet really a hoax/joke? if it is not, I would recommend you remove that junk or not and try to flaunt your "supposed-ed cred"...

I smell something wee bit odd here....


-chris

RE: "I smell something wee bit odd here....", posted on September 19, 2009 at 18:19:34
geoffkait
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 Fox smells his own hole.

You're not going to tell me you believe for one second that Rip Off Report is ethical or true, are you? If so, I can certainly see why you're unemployed.
RE: Hey look, no straight answer, posted on August 13, 2009 at 15:04:25
geoffkait
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 For the reading comprehension challenged: I did not pay for it. Happy now?

I just received my plaque in the mail, posted on August 8, 2009 at 11:09:55
geoffkait
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 It cost me $799. But I'm wondering, did I pay too much?

RE: I just received my plaque in the mail, posted on August 13, 2009 at 18:39:39
Nietzschelover
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 "Did I get ripped off", you ask?
Of course not. Not when you consider the award's unique proprietary design that makes use of the quantum resonances generated by the non-fluidic nature of the electrons that are "trapped" within the kinetics of the plaque's solid-state molecular structure.
That's what makes it glitter.

In the mail?, posted on August 9, 2009 at 12:23:25
porky_pig_jr
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 You mean you didn't use the Teleportation tweak?

RE: In the mail?, posted on August 9, 2009 at 14:56:08
geoffkait
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 Dammit, you're right. Boy did I screw up.

Asylum moderators get the last laugh?…, posted on August 6, 2009 at 10:04:46
Wellfed
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That can't be healthy—can it?
RE: Asylum moderators get the last laugh?…, posted on August 6, 2009 at 15:25:21
geoffkait
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...

That would be you after making a sale?, posted on August 7, 2009 at 09:30:10
keith_d
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 I'm sure you hold your customers in the highest respect, cos marks are beautiful things.

No, actually that would be after, posted on August 7, 2009 at 15:43:15
geoffkait
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 calling someone a butthead. Respectfully, of course.

Yes, but WHO?, posted on August 5, 2009 at 04:52:14
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"Jazz is not dead - it just smells funny" FZ
That's the spirit…, posted on August 5, 2009 at 04:55:25
Wellfed
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Are they going to open a branch hear at AA?, posted on August 4, 2009 at 22:59:08
musetap
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'Cause this thread is sure turning into one big joke, one that's more amusing than funny!

“ Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination. ” -Michael McClure
Is General home to the generally ill humored…, posted on August 5, 2009 at 03:58:45
Wellfed
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Or what?
RE: Is General home to the generally ill humored…, posted on August 5, 2009 at 12:16:28
Todd Krieger
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 There is nothing more amusing than someone trying to be funny, and then expressing resentment over people realizing otherwise............


RE: Are they going to open a branch hear at AA?, posted on August 4, 2009 at 23:01:54
Todd Krieger
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 I'm generally not a proponent of vaporizing threads...... This is a rare exception.


Thirty seconds of research later..., posted on August 4, 2009 at 16:44:17
powermatic
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 brings up this.

I will say, it does seem fitting that 'Machina Dynamica' should win pay for a phony 'award', which in reality is a PR scam. Seems oddly appropriate. I'm sure that certificate will look nice on Geoff Kaitt's wall.

Sorry WF, I'm still laughing. In fact, even harder now that I know how truly gullible you are.





"dammit"
Excellent find! Hilarious . . ., posted on August 6, 2009 at 08:52:51
JoshT
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 Even before I saw your post, I was thinking "U.S. Commerce Association? Sounds pretty hokey and phoney."

My favorite exerpt for the article you linked:

"In a link provided in its email to Joshu, the U. S. Commerce Association provides a list of several hundred award winners from 2008. Among the winners were a discount driving school in Maryland, a tattoo removal clinic in California, a bagpipe player in Arizona and a “laser tag family fun center” in Louisiana. Other award winners were in categories such as “astrologers,” “disc jockeys,” “tanning salons,” and “artificial waterfalls.”"

But that's great. I have never known which artificial waterfall dealer to contact, let alone who to contact when on vacation in Scottsdale for live bagpiping.
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"If you are the owner of a new stereophonic system, this record will play with even more brilliant true-to-life fidelity. In short, you can purchase this record with no fear of its becoming obsolete in the future."
How many Who's Who's have you bought your way into?…, posted on August 6, 2009 at 11:55:03
Wellfed
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Now that's funny, right there!, posted on August 5, 2009 at 09:40:28
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 I don't care who you are....

Jim
Wellfed is the champ: Champion sucker!, posted on August 4, 2009 at 20:30:49
badman
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 I'm sure the local plaquemaker would be happy to make you an award- for a fee, Wellfie





Bass is supposed to sound big. 6.5" is not a woofer size.


No need for that., posted on August 4, 2009 at 20:48:06
R Browne
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 I'm sure Geoff could teleport one to him - for a fee.

You're still laughing ... at whom?, posted on August 4, 2009 at 19:34:25
porky_pig_jr
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 yeah. at machina dynamica. And then, with no break at all, start discussing (quite seriously) CD demagnetizers, advantages of unidirectional audio cables, shakti stones and magic quantum dots potion. You folks are laughing at yourselves. Machina dynamica is probably the most outstanding representative of all that crapola.

Some people enjoy good sound…, posted on August 4, 2009 at 19:41:28
Wellfed
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 Other people enjoy REALLY good sound. What's your point?

RE: Thirty seconds of research later..., posted on August 4, 2009 at 17:02:44
Dave Pogue
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 Even if it was legit, being named "Best of Falls Church (I used to work near there) is pretty much a hoot in itself.

RE: Don't sell the competition short., posted on August 4, 2009 at 17:18:20
powermatic
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 I'd imagine that there was a pretty heated battle for the Award in the "...Television, & Electronic Stores Radio category(sic)...." between MD and the local Radio Shack franchise.




"dammit"
You're SO much smarter than me sometimes…, posted on August 4, 2009 at 16:48:35
Wellfed
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How DO you do it?
That ain't sayin' much t, posted on August 4, 2009 at 20:08:06
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 t

Good one., posted on August 4, 2009 at 17:01:13
powermatic
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 Boy, you really "zinged" me with that one. Yep,you've hit another bulls eye!
Well done sir-again I say, well done!

Here we are once more, with WF, seemingly blindsided by actual logic, and in a sort of panicky scramble, resorting to his tried-and-true response of posting a giant graphic, totally irrelevant to the issue at hand, along with a 'hilarious' comment. Next up: some weirdly circular reasoning and ad hominen attacks, while failing to mention a word concerning his OP. I'll say this-you're nothing if not predictable. Carry on-more fun awaits.



"dammit"
Every picture tells a story…, posted on August 4, 2009 at 17:08:41
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Funny how sometimes you don't need to do anything to prove a point., posted on August 4, 2009 at 17:30:16
powermatic
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 Just sit back and watch the hole getting deeper, and deeper, and...



"dammit"
You're not a happy man…, posted on August 4, 2009 at 18:36:43
Wellfed
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 I can live with that.™

This would be the 'ad hominen attack' phase of the thread, as prophesied above., posted on August 4, 2009 at 18:47:55
powermatic
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 There's certainly no evidence of any "unhappiness" in my posts-in fact, I noted that I was "laughing"-so this makes zero sense.

I guess this means we'll be seeing this through to it's inevitable conclusion. Continue, if you will, your march to infamy.




"dammit"
Free rocks and teleportation tweeks for everyone!, posted on August 4, 2009 at 16:25:55
The Real Dick Hertz
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 I'm sure Kait IS getting the last laugh. He's proof you can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time. But you can make a fool of Wellfed anytime.

lol t, posted on August 4, 2009 at 20:07:23
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 t

You're kind of cute, but…, posted on August 4, 2009 at 16:30:43
Wellfed
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You need a SERIOUS amount of help

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