Favorite DHT SET?

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on November 9, 2009 at 20:39:30
tubtub Audiophile Posts: 123 Location: US Joined: June 5, 2007	I have a couple James Burgess SE 45 amps. Very musical involving stuff.

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on October 31, 2009 at 19:27:24

90493m
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hi Jeff
I have Tannoy Westminsters as well. Have been very pleased with the sound of the Jeff Korneff 45 stereo amp. It bettered my Sophia 845 monos except in the lower bass....the 45's seem a little shy below 45 hz or so. Above that they are really superb. I have not listened to a wide range or SET's but i can say that i have listened to a wide range of amp-speaker combos over the past 30 yrs and the Tannoy/Korneff combo is the most satifying yet.
I would love to hear your feedback on amps. I keep wondering about amps by Larry Moore and the Yamamotos

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on November 3, 2009 at 15:36:30

Jeff Day
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Thanks for the heads up on the Westminster & Korneff combination. How does one get a hold of Jeff Korneff these days? Does he still have a web site?

I'll be exploring amplification as I go, so it should be fun, and I hope to be able to write quite a bit about the Westminsters, as there isn't much out there now.

The Westminsters are being built now, with a tentative delivery time-frame sometime in December. If you have any setup tips on position and such, I'd love to hear about it.

Kind regards,

Jeff

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on November 5, 2009 at 09:07:09
90493m Audiophile Posts: 50 Joined: August 1, 2002	HI Jeff try reaching Mr. Korneff at trypower@msn.com. I don't know what his status is in terms of building new amps but he was extremely helpful with my questions and is good guy to chat with. I love my Westminsters. After 30 yrs of messing around with planars and ESL's I wonder why i didn't try hi eff speakers sooner!!

Thanks everyone for responding ..., posted on October 26, 2009 at 17:08:34
Jeff Day Reviewer Posts: 471 Location: Washington State Joined: October 20, 2000	Thanks everyone for responding. Man, that's one cool list of SETs, with some very innovative circuits and tube combinations. I just ordered a pair of the Tannoy Westminster Royal SE loudspeakers, so I'm thinking about SETs again, and man, I have to say you guys have some awesome amps! Best, Jeff

RE: Thanks everyone for responding ..., posted on October 30, 2009 at 22:20:42

Donald North
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Try the Audio Note UK Kegon Balanced with the Westminster. All silver, transformer coupled, parallel 300B.

Donald North

RE: Thanks everyone for responding ..., posted on October 28, 2009 at 07:36:59

Jim Smith
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Hey Jeff!

I can't wait to hear what your think of the Tannoys in your room!

Best regards,

Jim Smith

RE: Thanks everyone for responding ..., posted on October 28, 2009 at 09:55:31
Jeff Day Reviewer Posts: 471 Location: Washington State Joined: October 20, 2000	Hey Jim, It should be an adventure! Best, Jeff

Are the Harbeth's gone?, posted on November 10, 2009 at 10:56:21
Vik Audiophile Posts: 1031 Location: Rochester, NY Joined: January 1, 2002	Or are these a review pair?

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on October 24, 2009 at 05:54:39

njjohn
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I've said it a few times before. I've been listening to the 6sn7/26/45 for a couple/few years. Each time I turn it on, there is the sense of balance and it sounding right.

I think there can be more dazzling sounding amps and more exotic sounding amps, but I don't know if an amp can sound more on target.

The 6sn7 is a tube that can provide alot of bloom and it is the first one in the circuit. The 26 shapes the sound getting it ready for the 45. It has its own sound characteristics and it is a tube that compliments the 45 in a certain way. It's own characteristic is to give the horn sound what it needs in audio. It gives the horns a certain piqueness and underbelly which the 45 does not have by itself. The 26 has its own characteristics but interacts with the different output tubes, 45, 300b, and 50, for example, differently.

Then it goes to the 45 which is the reality tube of all tubes. The 45 does not have the earth and exotic potential of the 300b nor the air and ethereal potential of the 2a3, nor the golden audio sound of the 50. That golden audio sound is something. It is just the reality tube, or the deception of reality because it dwells more in the cream of the midrange.

So what next, posted on October 24, 2009 at 02:40:49
gortnipper Audiophile Posts: 502 Location: Seattle expat in Auckland Joined: November 28, 2003	on your shopping list, Jeff? ;-)

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on October 23, 2009 at 17:14:52
Jottow2@yahoo.com Audiophile Posts: 112 Location: Arizona Joined: February 10, 2006	Don Allens 300B. The only amp that I like better is Don Allen's KT88 which is a PP amp.

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on October 23, 2009 at 12:21:59
lakerfan Audiophile Posts: 294 Joined: April 9, 2002	Larry Moore 46/845 DHT driving a DHT. John Hogan 26/300B

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on October 23, 2009 at 07:27:34

eyes
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Monobloc active-loaded 56 DC-coupled to a 2A3 with a big ass MQ plate choke parafeed into a nickel TFA 2004. One electron UBT-1B PT into damper diodes into CL on a separate breadboard. Very yummy. Dynamics and bass to die for. 26 and 27 in the on-deck circle.

6S4A regulated 6S4A IT-coupled to 300B monos, all Hashimoto iron except for PS which is Hammond/Lundahl/surplus, 5AR4 CLCLC. Not as dynamic but tonally ace.

Oh yeah, all DHTs have the very excellent Tent Labs filament supplies. 0.1 - 0.2 mV noise on the output, input shorted, silence on 103 dB horns.

/eyes

still hung up on my Yamamoto A-08S, posted on October 22, 2009 at 21:13:45
kgturner Audiophile Posts: 323 Location: 36695 Joined: February 15, 2003	with EML solid plates. coupled with a supratek dual cabernet and von schweikert db-99se speakers, i'm all smiles. kevin t "religion is the opiate of the masses"

Yamamoto A-08, posted on October 23, 2009 at 01:08:32
bequerel Audiophile Posts: 170 Location: NORWAY Joined: September 29, 2002	Bought it as a kit a few years back. EML solid plates here, too. Extremely reliable, and even with ac on the filaments it is very quiet.

Burgess 300B, posted on October 22, 2009 at 17:42:31

Plinko
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But I probably like my Burgess preamp even better....

Some days I'm amazed by my "no frills" Burgess 45/46 (lol). I suppose everyone is going to recommend the amps that they own (and rightfully so).

The 300B is 5687 SRPP input and 12B4 driver. Volume pots for each channel to allow for minor balance variation in my Altecs. It's nice to listen to CD directly into the amp. Bass is articulated very well on this amp. Dog got sick (vet bills) and I thought I was going to sell this amp. Luckily, the temporary insanity subsided before I made a huge blunder.

I thought maybe a F3 clone could replace one of these amps. No way. It wasn't even close.

A Surprising Third Vote for the 46, posted on October 22, 2009 at 15:58:43
Gerry E. Audiophile Posts: 1655 Location: Hartford, Connect-I-Cut Joined: February 19, 2000 Contributor Since: March 2, 2004	Granted that at least one of the other people who mentioned the 46 uses it as a driver. However, I think it makes a great output tube too. With about 1.5 watts in triode, your speakers need to be up to the task. I like a certain type of ST-shape 46 better than any of the tubes in the photo above. Gerry

What do you think of that Emission Labs 45?, posted on October 22, 2009 at 17:30:32

Plinko
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I use mostly 46s in my Burgess amp. Fantastic sound on inexpensive transformers (Transcendar). JB put a switch on this amp to allow for correct operating points between the 45 and the 46. Thought maybe someday I'll switch to Magnequest but it might be that this will never happen (or needs to happen).

I was able to buy several pairs of 46 RCAs and 46 Sylvanias locally at nice prices. Far cheaper than 45s on ebay.

RE: What do you think of that Emission Labs 45?, posted on October 30, 2009 at 10:48:32

Gerry E.
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I'm sorry for the slow reply. I relocated to another state last weekend and started a new job this past Monday. I thought the EML solid-plate 45 is an excellent sounding tube. Big soundstage (not bloated) and strong sounding. At least as good as any of the old-stock tubes.

However, the best 46 sounds at least as good in every attribute and better in some (even more powerful sounding and better low-end response). This was a surprise. Factor in the cost differential and this would qualify as a "no brainer".

BTW, do you know exactly what parameters are changed by your 45/46 switch? Thanks.

Gerry

For the switch, one extra cap is added to the power supply, posted on October 31, 2009 at 06:40:19

Plinko
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that results in dropping the B+ voltage for the 46 to 288V or 305V. I'm confused by the schematic here and need to ask JB. The 45s run at 335V. It appears that the 46 is being run harder than the tube manuals recommend but I remember reading somewhere that this was okay. If 305V, then the 46 certainly is being run "hard".

I only have one pair of 45s and many 46s and have mostly been using only the 46s.

SE guitaramp, posted on October 24, 2009 at 06:02:44

Stewen
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Hi ! After a couple of PP - KT88 and 807 amps very modified Twin Reverb -65 reissueamp ( for very clean , sparkling sound ) I now would like to build a SE amp for guitar with clean , lowdistorted sound if its possible . Hammond have some 25W SE OT , I think . Or perhaps You´ll suggest another OT . I have two NOS 811A , some good NOS 6SN7 , 6SL7 , ECC 40 , EL 34 , 12BH7 , 6L6GC , and many 12A..7 tubes . What tubes in the chain from input to output would You suggest ? Lunddahl interstagetr.? Active loads ? CCS ? Very happy for some advice and perhaps even a schematic . 12-15 W power and up would be OK .
( I have used CCS,s in phasesplitters in my PP-amps ... two transistor , from Morgan Jones´book .) Stewen

Shhhh..... (nt) ;-), posted on October 22, 2009 at 17:37:08
twystd Audiophile Posts: 1663 Location: Austin,Texas Joined: December 9, 2000	.

any two pairs..., posted on October 22, 2009 at 09:00:02
PakProtector Audiophile Posts: 9949 Joined: May 14, 2002	bridged. cheers, Douglas Friend, I would not hurt thee for the world...but thou art standing where I am about to shoot.

Snore., posted on October 23, 2009 at 04:19:32

RC Daniel
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You are about as off-topic and predictable as those you frequently criticise.

"As long as we have any intention to be right... we should be wary. So long as words have the slightest ego attachment, they are dishonest."
Charlotte Joko Beck

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on October 22, 2009 at 07:57:56
charles1dad Audiophile Posts: 6 Location: michigan Joined: January 2, 2009 Contributor Since: January 2, 2009	The Coincident Frankenstein Mark2. With 300b output tube 6em7 driver/input and an inter stage transformer this amp is superb. Transparent, dynamic and with excellent tonality, no hint of electronic or mechanical artifact.

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on October 22, 2009 at 05:14:21
AmanteDiMusica Audiophile Posts: 127 Location: US Midwest Joined: August 21, 2006	Larry Moore Monaco 845 with 46 drivers. Grazie Amante

Larry Moore Monaco, posted on October 27, 2009 at 16:25:00
AmanteDiMusica Audiophile Posts: 127 Location: US Midwest Joined: August 21, 2006	Mine weighs close to 100 lbs. The power transformer alone is around 35 pounds. The 10 watts it produces are the best I have heard. Period. Esp. after warming up for 10 minutes. Grazie Amante

Agree the Larry D. Moore Monaco is a great amp, posted on November 8, 2009 at 09:05:53
Jay Buridan Audiophile Posts: 1593 Location: Michigan Joined: January 21, 2004	running the 845 tubes in their sweet spot.

Manley Labs 300B pre + 300B monoblocks..., posted on October 22, 2009 at 05:03:22
Mastergill Audiophile Posts: 67 Joined: August 6, 2005 Contributor Since: February 5, 2008	I have not heard a lot of DHT setup, in fact in my home i've only heard the one i have since more than 2 years now. But every tunes i play its like the first day! I can't get enough of this amazingly pure sonic nirvana.

Don Allen 10/45............., posted on October 21, 2009 at 23:10:56
Todd Krieger Audiophile Posts: 22046 Location: SW United States Joined: November 2, 2000	What's wacky is I now like his push-pull and IHT amps better...........

Care to share why? nt., posted on October 22, 2009 at 02:33:00
RC Daniel Audiophile Posts: 1015 Location: Brisbane Joined: November 3, 2002	. "As long as we have any intention to be right... we should be wary. So long as words have the slightest ego attachment, they are dishonest." Charlotte Joko Beck

RE: Care to share why? nt., posted on October 23, 2009 at 17:39:58
Todd Krieger Audiophile Posts: 22046 Location: SW United States Joined: November 2, 2000	To the point, the new push-pull amps have all the SET magic, with more power.......

Hmmm. Thanks. nt., posted on October 23, 2009 at 23:16:39
RC Daniel Audiophile Posts: 1015 Location: Brisbane Joined: November 3, 2002	. "As long as we have any intention to be right... we should be wary. So long as words have the slightest ego attachment, they are dishonest." Charlotte Joko Beck

Art Audio Sympnony and PX-25 nt, posted on October 21, 2009 at 19:54:44
onemug Audiophile Posts: 547 Location: So. California Joined: April 19, 2003	n

Art Audio Jota monoblocks. (nt), posted on October 21, 2009 at 19:25:53
kuma Audiophile Posts: 5084 Joined: July 8, 2001	.

Jota and Wavelength Cardinal X2, Wavelength Triton Blue and Larry D. Moore Signature 300B, posted on October 23, 2009 at 10:27:18
Jay Buridan Audiophile Posts: 1593 Location: Michigan Joined: January 21, 2004	Using Jota now because I need the 24 watts.

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on October 21, 2009 at 19:05:55
Jovy Audiophile Posts: 171 Joined: February 6, 2002	Still very happy with my Wavelength Venus 45 amps. Ultra-quiet and very musical.

The ones with lots of brushed metal ,exotic wood and golden knobs (nt;0), posted on October 21, 2009 at 18:21:24
Wojciech Audiophile Posts: 45 Joined: June 23, 2009	nt

RE: Favorite DHT SET?, posted on October 21, 2009 at 16:35:09
GBLPS Audiophile Posts: 145 Location: South Central PA Joined: March 15, 2006	Korneff 45 Stereo nothing better that I have heard so far.

I like a well Designed pair of 45 monoblocks................nt, posted on October 21, 2009 at 14:23:33

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The one we have or the one we want?, posted on October 21, 2009 at 13:08:19

Frihed89
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I have an Audio Note Meishu Line Integrated with upgraded C Core Transformers that sounds substantially nicer than the stock unit. The weak link is the preamp section (an AN M-2). Still, since this is my first venture into SET, I am very happy with this model.

What I'd really like to do is get the Silver Sig power amp version (P-3) of the Meishu and drive it with an M-5 preamp. That's about 164,000 DKK. Divide by 5. I prefer the sound of the Meishu with good transformers to that of the Quest, Conquest or P-4, which is technically better, but lacks the character and richness of the Meishu's sound.
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RE: The one we have or the one we want?, posted on October 21, 2009 at 14:47:54
andy evans Audiophile Posts: 997 Joined: October 20, 2000	Well, for me any favourite would have to be DHT all the way through. Having said that I'm open to anything that has some of my favourite tubes in - 300b, 10Y, 46, 71A, 26, 01A, 31, 1G4G and 1G4GT (round plate). I've never been as fond of 45 or 2a3 as of the 300b. That's my output tube of choice. But it's fun to rotate the others. No idea about production units, I just build 'em. andy

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