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Posted on October 22, 2009 at 18:55:38
LWR
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When I was still in business I had a huge blow up of this JG photo in each of my stores. I had this way before he passed away. They were a full on 20x30 inches and I did it because it felt good to see him. JG wanted to use this on the Euro 72 album but was outvoted (they used 3 others).
About a year before I sold out and retired a woman came in with her hubby and we spend a long time fitting them both to two custom built office chairs. This took about two hours and as we wrote up the deal she noticed the photo on the wall. Tears began to fall and I told her I'd remove it if she was disturbed seeing it. She said she was happy to see it, asked who took it. I confessed and she said she was mighty impressed. I told her it was from Europe in 1972. She asked all about my involvement with them etc and so on.
She said her brother was in the Dead for 11 years. I asked who her brother was...it was Brent Mydland. I was stunned and I may have gotten a bit wet under the eyes as well. We spend a long time trading stories, she had recently come across the Houseboat Tapes that the Dead had given to Brent to learn the tunes. They had sat lost for all those many years...The Dead have now released them I think, but I forget the details.
She said the Dead has always treated her as family, every Xmas she receives a gift and now and again they call and inquire if she is in need of anything. They love her.
I was absolutely stunned and bowled over by this encounter.
And I will say that I know of no other band with the legacy and family feel of the Dead.
She was meant to come in and find the photo on the wall...and I was meant to hang it on the wall and wait....See how all this stuff works?


JG Copenhagen


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you are , of course, full of shit, posted on October 25, 2009 at 23:04:17
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till you can prove what you utter, unequivocally.

a million people have these photos, including me.

Wow!, posted on October 27, 2009 at 05:31:19
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You saying that all these photos LWR has posted are public domain photos? Or easily accessible & not unique to LWR?

Better make that 999,999 ppl. I don't have any of these or previous ones posted.

RE: you are , of course, full of shit, posted on October 26, 2009 at 13:53:49
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So, now that you have admitted to owning one of LWR's photos, do you have a receipt? lol
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Wow! What an ignorant post..., posted on October 26, 2009 at 11:02:37
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LWR contributes more around here when he just posts a picture of a sanitary napkin in response to (another) disturbed individual's blather.

What do you do?

“ Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination. ” -Michael McClure

Heh heh, Mr. Muse, posted on October 26, 2009 at 11:11:19
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My posts are all sanitary. The napkins....not so much!
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Looks like Muse wants one of your napkins, the sanitary ones with your personal touch. nt, posted on October 27, 2009 at 12:12:18
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"a million people have these photos, including me." Great! Why have we never seen any? LWR has posted ..., posted on October 26, 2009 at 07:52:47
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... hundreds of photos and has contributed GREATLY to this forum. You haven't.

Right now, you appear as a jealous little man.

actually elblanco has justs ent me one of HIS photos of a great musician on stage, posted on October 26, 2009 at 23:20:36
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Now I see what he is on about...
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Remember the Plaster Casters? Girls a little better than hookers that followed around, posted on October 26, 2009 at 08:03:34
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rock stars. A sub-category of groupie.
Where does LW fit in there?
A guy who has a man-crush on male rock personalities.

Perhaps he is just into his hobby more than you are? Perhaps he had the opportunity to "be there" and ..., posted on October 26, 2009 at 08:57:50
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... had the smarts to take archives of it? LWR is one of the Rock Asylum's best contributors, having posted hundreds and hundreds of "you are there" type photos of concerts that many of us were unable to see (I'm 45). Most of us enjoy these photos and the stories.

The jealousy displayed here reminds me of this place a few months back, when LWR was banned, I believe, for comments made in the Outside Asylum. A couple of jealous types took that as their que to hump LWR's leg like a dog in heat because he could not reply. They tried to mock his photo contributions. They increased their number of posts and new threads, but didn't quite fill the void. Folks started new threads asking where LWR was and when he'd be back to contribute again. (I don't see that happening for you, Tin, elbanco, or myself). Ever.

It's pathetic and rather sad that these guys don't understand that most folks see right through it all.

You're a loyal wife, Jackie. Not all derision has its roots in "jealousy." nt, posted on November 2, 2009 at 10:48:24
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Jealousy and envy are nasty little buggers, posted on October 26, 2009 at 18:50:01
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swat them down whenever they pop up. Don't let them breed, don't give them legs. They'll eat you through to the core.

We all need to be vigilant.

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Anyone ever told you, posted on October 26, 2009 at 08:23:51
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that for a 61 year old 5 foot tall dwarf that you have some mental issues?
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Haha. No. Perhaps because I'm 5' 1?" I applaud your self control. You're, posted on October 26, 2009 at 10:16:30
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an interesting guy full of the most ridiculous contradictions, i.e. a Dead head fan that hates its fans. I'm sure you know that the counter-cultural types you continually rail against are the Dead's family, i.e. the Rainbow kids? And that Eugene is ground zero for them and that Kesey and his kids were strong supporters of them? Or that just about every one of your heroes was a radical and would find your radical conservatism a hoot?
Anyhow, how about a story sometime about the groupies? You were interested in them, were you not or were you there just for... the guys?
I recently saw the documentary about the famed Plaster Casters and their ilk. Ugliest collection of women I've ever seen. I've always thought rock stars were more to be pitied than envied. Non-stop travel fatigue, drink and drugs to make it possible (imagine the boredom of yet another night playing the same tunes, the same screaming fans, the same slags waiting back at the hotel, etc.)
I admire that anyone would go through that much for his "art" and feel very grateful. It's a sacrifice I certainly wouldn't have made..........

If you knew the finacial plans and investments of what you consider, posted on October 26, 2009 at 10:49:43
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to be rock liberals you'd choke on your organic oatmeal. They write what sells, they address their fans with songs that they know will be accepted. It is a business, first, last and foremost. You really have no clue about which you speak, being a self declared outsider with no clue except what your imagination thinks the scene is like.
First of all, these folks I knew were friends before anything else occurred. Before the first albums, before the first Fillmore shows, before world tours. We were friends.at one another's homes, hanging out for a beer or coffee while telling jokes and wondering if organic mescaline was a better trip than synthetics were?
I was on stage taking pix because I was invited to be there. The promoters did not like it, the bands did. You do not see pix of Led Zep, 10 Years After etc because I did not take pix of them and did not know them. I photographed friends, I liked to and they liked me to.
Why talk about groupies? Are they meaningful to you? Important to your fantasy of what went on? How fucking small minded and ignorant you really are to think that was an important part of backstage life. If they had been important I would have pix of them, they were not and I do not.
Don't forget that Kesey was a millionaire. His books and movies allowed him to live a regal lifestyle in La Honda as well as later in Springfield. Talk about groupies, Kesey had more women hanging on than I ever saw hanging backstage with CSN&Y or the Dead. Fay Kesey put up with it, believing in open marriage and all. She enjoyed the royal fuckfest as much as Ken did.And a fuckfest is what it was. Not only that, but Ken was the figurehead, the steering and motor were folks like Kenny Babbs, Mike Hagan, Zonker (Steve Lambrecht-RIP) Carolyn Adams (Mountain Girl), Fetchin Gretchen, Steward Brand and a few others.
For you to try to peep in the window at something you knew nothing about and then to try and verbalize to me what I went thru and what the people were/are like is laughable and shows exactly why you are a fool who mistakes spewing of oral diarrhea as insider knowledge and wisdom.
I meant 5 feet in your stocking feet, not with your shoes and keg braces.



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Ah, the rock musicians all are hypocrites and liars whose lyrics are only for sales. Right. I don't, posted on October 26, 2009 at 18:53:11
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suppose you're ascribing YOUR cynicism, your hypocrisy to them? Nah. You listen to the lyrics and just smirk, an insider's joke to the man who REALLY knows that U2 could give a piss about the poor. I mean, Bono's rich, right? It's all a pose!
Groupies were (are) a huge part of the life. I guess you'd reduce it to "Drugs.... rock n' roll."
And you neglect to mention your continual slagging of the Rainbow Family and the kids that have made the Dead the legend they continue to be. They're not millionaires like you, sitting in a gilded faux country home, sneering at true fans. Of course Ken was well-off. What does that have to do with you ragging on his legacy's supporters? You're like a dentist who on Saturday puts on a thousand dollars worth of leather, 200 dollar boots, gets on his 30 thousand dollar Harley, and thinks he's a badass biker clubber. He's a fakeur, like you.

Right over your head, posted on October 26, 2009 at 19:17:32
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at 5 feet 2 inches and missed you by a mile. U-2 has nothing to do with the people I know and took pix of. Never once have I mentioned the Rainbow Family, not one time.
Groupies were not a part of the Dead's scene in the years 64-75 or so. After that I dunno. Bob Weir and band played at my wedding in Nov of 74 and 3 weeks later I moved to the North Shore of Hawaii and did not see the guys again for many years., except at one or two gigs in Hawaii.
What I am saying is that it is not all peace and love with these folks who are now worth in the hundreds of millions of dollars and are invested in General Electric, Boeing and other companies who make the weapons of war. They own tracks of real estate that sell for high prices.
But you know better huh? You are a bigger fool than I thought. Lost in a world of idols and false dreams. PT Barnum had you in mind, he saw your type coming down the pike, all wide eyed and bushy tailed.
You can have the last word since you are apparently still taking aim at your deformed feet. And it is such a close range shot and all, you being a midget and all. Maybe the hump throws it off...





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Re-read your own post wherein you cynically ascribe self-serving, posted on October 27, 2009 at 12:17:41
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motives to top musicians you know. I mentioned U2, is the pose of caring limited to your coterie? I doubt you know intimately the investment portfolios of any of the guys whose names you banter around. As usual, more LW bullshit.
As far as criticizing the Dead followers, I must have mistaken you for someone else here who roundly criticized women who didn't look like Danish hookers and other counter-cultural types which flourish in wonderful Eugene (a place you evidently view in contempt for the presence of those folks).
Don't make me embarrass you, if it's possible, by posting your very own comments.
Why lie? You're a button-down radical libertarian who has fled civilization and imagines himself some sort of Unabomber, sans bombs.

"some sort of Unabomber, sans bombs", posted on October 27, 2009 at 16:48:47
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Uh, thanks, Dave. Now, I've got to go and, posted on October 28, 2009 at 09:00:11
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watch Kill Bill yet again.

Davey C can buy us all out,, posted on October 27, 2009 at 01:06:09
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several times over. lol
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"They're not millionaires like you": lend us a million, Larry..., posted on October 26, 2009 at 23:24:54
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I can't, posted on October 27, 2009 at 06:35:56
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I am still paying off the groupies....
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Dick's Picks 35, but ...., posted on October 22, 2009 at 20:04:11
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Another great shot, Larry, thanks. And wonderful story, too. Many, many instances of synchronicity among the Dead family and friends. But ... a small odd detail - the "Houseboat Tapes", which were released as Dick's Picks #35, were given to Keith Godchaux, in preparation to play with the Dead in 1971. The tapes then remained on his parent's houseboat (for decades). Brent, of course, came on-board to replace Keith, in 1979.

I really don't mean to take anything away from his sister's account. I'm sure they gave Bent tapes to play, and she probably heard of the "Houseboat" tapes, and maybe a wire crossed. But the tapes released on DP35 were targeted to Keith.

Separately ... I recently met an airline attendant who often was responsible for the first-class cabin when Jerry (and, at the time, Deborah) was flying - sadly, she didn't have the greatest report on his "flying manners." Oh well, that's not what we listen for!

Then it is my faulty memory, posted on October 22, 2009 at 20:15:28
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at fault. Thanks for straightening me out...after awhile it is all a blur...BTW, I thought BM the best keys player they had...
Did you hear about the flight through Monument Valley at monument level?....
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RE: Then it is my faulty memory, posted on October 23, 2009 at 10:15:47
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No, hadn't heard about the "monument level" flight(!). I traveled through Monument Valley by motorhome in the summer of '76. I need to find those slides! (And, then, take a lesson from you in film transfer to the digital domain (yeah, I saved your posting on that!)).

On the Dead's tour one year, posted on October 23, 2009 at 11:10:09
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The 2 jets were full of pleasant smoke and the pilot told them in the back to look out the window. They were flying below the tops of the buttes in MV. You can imagine the reaction of people on the ground... What a great moment that had to be....
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That's funny. . ., posted on October 24, 2009 at 08:39:46
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Wow man . . . .

When I was in the military I could fly on standby and get a ticket and first class for 50 dollars to home. Things change.


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Great image. . ., posted on October 22, 2009 at 19:43:06
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thanks for sharing it and the story.

Any images of Janis?
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Very nice photo, posted on October 23, 2009 at 06:05:30
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Always like closeups of great guitarist's fingerwork and setups. Boy, Jerry really has that neck pickup set WAY DOWN from the strings. Guess he didn't do much rhythm work with that guitar (at least at that concert).

Thanks, posted on October 23, 2009 at 06:28:43
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and you can see the stump of the finger that Jerry's dad accidentally whacked off with an axe.
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No John, posted on October 22, 2009 at 19:48:32
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As I said previously, all Janis pix (along with hundreds if not thousands of others) all burned with my cabin and all we owned and all the records and some master tapes and we survived as did our cays, but JJ and many others from 64 to 70 went poof!
A life changing event!
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Yes, I am . . ., posted on October 22, 2009 at 20:07:01
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sorry I forgot. A long day in ICU. Man you ought to see what people do to themselves and the families that love them. Well I guess we have already seen that.

Thanks again for posting the image of JG.
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My ex sis in law, posted on October 22, 2009 at 20:24:52
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worked pediatric ICU. Death at the door all the day and all the night. She became unhinged with cocaine and needles and sex. It was her one and only escape from the babies who were weighed by the ounce and lived thru machinery.
She took me there one spooky night in Denver...Absolutely unreal and I was only there a half hour. she lived with them for years, then she found the release.....was a slave....was a zombie.
A sweet girl and I loved her, she found a guy in Wyoming who layed pipe for oil companies and had a good heart. He married her, 4 kids later, 100 pounds of weight and getting born again she escaped the ghosts and nightmares that were her life for all too long.
You are a good man to do what you do John. I imagine you have a gret back up to get you thru what I know you have in front of you.
I have deep respect....
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