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cPlay - the open source high-end audio player using ASIO

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Posted on May 5, 2008 at 12:31:58
cics
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cPlay

The open source high-end audio player using ASIO

May 2008

cPlay delivers high quality audio playback using ASIO 2. Playback is achieved using any ASIO compatible soundcard. cPlay is a minimalist audio player using the latest high quality SRC resampler (Best Sinc SNR 145.68db or 121.33db) or SoX (VHQ or HQ). cPlay's design offers state-of-the-art ASIO-only playback and caters for touch screen users. Installation, setup and use is easy. cPlay is built in c/c++ and operates on Windows XP SP2 Professional (32 bit).

FEATURES

  1. Resampling is sourced from LibSampleRate (version 0.1.5) and SoX 14.2.0 under GNU GPL license. LibSampleRate is aka SRC (Secret Rabbit Code) and supersedes the version as used in foobar2000. Best Sinc converter now offers a SNR of 145.68db or 121.33db (versus 97db). SoX VHQ offers better than 170db SNR. Resampling is bypassed when input rate matches output.

  2. Supports Steinberg's excellent ASIO 2 and is backward compatible to prior ASIO versions (as required by ASIO drivers).

  3. Offers high quality 64 bit double precision digital volume control (in 0.5db steps). This can be bypassed.

  4. Playback is achieved through .cue, .wav or .flac files. cPlay loads entire .wav or .flac (decoded) into RAM before starting. Playback is done directly from cPlay's internal buffer. Cue playback requires .cue files as created by EAC (single or multi file standard).

  5. Ensures efficient CPU resource utilization allowing for low specification processors or high levels of upsampling. This means CPUs can be underclocked / undervolted.

  6. Supports up to 3 ASIO soundcards with each having up to 100 output channels.

  7. Advanced optimizations are applied (if available from ASIO driver) during playback.

  8. Best results achieved when using cMP (i.e. cMP²). This allows for low level Windows optimizations. Use cMP release 1.0 final or later as this allows for bypassing RAM load in cMP (set RAM Load in cMP Settings to No) otherwise wav file is RAM loaded twice. cPlay allows for both svchost and lsass to be suspended during playback thus reducing the Windows footprint. Only exception is EMU's ASIO driver which requires both (svchost and lsass) to be operational. Set cMP's Optimize setting to Critical.

  9. Full remote control is achieved with cMP: offering volume control, track navigation, next/previous and stop/eject via (wireless) mouse.

USER MANUAL

Visit cMP² website (http://www.cicsMemoryPlayer.com) for more details and setup.

Screen Shot




GETTING STARTED

Download cPlay's installer here (1.3MB). Installation and startup is straight forward.

If you don't have an ASIO compatible soundcard, use ASIO4ALL. Note that ASIO4ALL does not support channel mapping (use default) and rarely handles above 48k sample rate.

Your feedback will help guide cPlay's future development. Source code (4.1MB) is available via email.

 

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RE: Things are getting really good with these latest ..., posted on September 9, 2011 at 08:45:56
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 Thanks for heads up on this (ie, best perf).

Edit: but mine did not reset.

 

RE: Things are getting really good with these latest ..., posted on September 9, 2011 at 09:28:29
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 My settings remained un-changed though !!

Junaid

 

RE: Things are getting really good with these latest ..., posted on September 9, 2011 at 10:02:45
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 I too found that the system performance setting had changed.

 

Tuning with file deletions, posted on September 9, 2011 at 11:05:08
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 theob had mentioned something about being unsure of the propriety of tuning with various file deletions and even though I can understand his purist vision behind this comment; when one is removing veils can there be veils that actually enhance the transparency of a total system (for a lame try at a poetic explanation). But in the real world one has to take what they can get.

There is no perfect resistor or capacitor but the most dedicated hobbyists and designers search for the combination that allows the most pleasing sound.

When dealing with an operating system one (now we can see) has to look at these components as we have traditionally looked at resistors, caps, etc. in an electronic circuit.

Which makes me think of the tunings our revered cics made with the various iterations of cPLAY.

I would like to think this new found energy the file deletions have brought to this project might inspire cics to take another look at cPLAY. As good as it is and as much we are enjoying using it one has to wonder if at the end of this XP slimming project that it might bring opportunities for a re-tuning of cPLAY? Compromise being the name of the audio game and with less compromises imposed bu XP (my assumption) there could be good reason to look at a new set of compromises within cPLAY.

I hope cics is paying attention to this because it is bringing us closer to realizing the art of the computer transport.

 

Fine Files tuning, posted on September 9, 2011 at 15:01:01
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 Hi all
I've read with great interest the posts about juli@ drivers and now I can confirm that SOUND (C:\Windows\system) and wdmaud.drv (in C:\Windows\system32\drivers) must rest in place with Asus Xonar Essence too.
wdmaud.drv is an important driver for this soundcard, that works the same without it but produce the strange sound I've listened, incoherent and not balanced. When you put again this driver in his folder and reboot, your musical world changes and sound come back to a good balance, with the right midbass.
Adding SOUND.sys also, you can enhance this effect and you can listen to a solid, physical bass and midbass,i.e. piano gains depth like real,
But all music is enlighten by a transparency and a precision when you add the last Jolida' modding, now all is allright.
Simply wonderful.
I'm very happy now and I was thinking about the effect of single file on sound. Maybe, with a great job, we could identify the effect of single file removed on sound quality, to do a file (fine) tuning of our sound.

 

RE: Tuning with file deletions, posted on September 9, 2011 at 15:25:25
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 I second that.

With the latest edition of file removal (and re-installation), cPlay's performance is on another level. I, for one, is very interested and would appreciate what cics-who had single handedly started us on this wonderful journey-would think about this latest development of his creation.

 

Thumb Drive ..., posted on September 9, 2011 at 19:29:04
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 I too lost ability to use a thumb drive somewhere on this journey.

If anyone figures out how to get USB to recognize a thumb drive or usb hdd, I would love to hear it. Not sure at what point it failed to be found, but I need to get this back to add music.
thanks

 

RE: MORE FILES, posted on September 9, 2011 at 22:03:35
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 Hi Jolida,

I have a contrary opinion this time. I move the files, listened for 2 hours and have to move them back.

Yes, the latest version might have more transparency, but certainly too polite for my taste, the excitement is gone. The magical immediacy of the previous version (what I called Tweak #4.5) is gone. Move the files back and I am now back to Joni Mitchell's live performance. The difference is not subtle.

I am mainly a rock and roll listener, and to me immediacy and excitement is important. I guess a chamber music listener (thoughI listen to lots of Bach too) might have a different opinion.

 

RE: MORE FILES, posted on September 9, 2011 at 22:34:15
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 Hi kclo,
If u feel that the changes made by the new deletions are not appealing to ur tastes, then its best to stick on to the previous stage. At the end of the day, its all about Enjoying music :-)

Junaid

 

1 + 1 - 2 = 0, posted on September 10, 2011 at 00:26:57
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 As we all probably know, The digital data is fairly modified in the audio-chain, right from its source, till it finally reaches our ear. This Audio chain, as far as the cMP is concerned, routes its way in the following order.
Flac=>Sata cable=>Motherboard=>Processor=>de-compresses to Wav=>Soundcard=>Digital cable=>Dac=>Interconnects=>Amplifier=>Speaker cables=>Speakers=>ROOM=>perceived by the ear !!!
No matter which brand of Signal cables or Power cords or Speakers being used, each have their own Colour !! Every piece of electronics in this Audio-chain induces this Colour on the music, as it passes through it. A cable, which sounds perfect in one system, may quite certainly sound dull or bright or bass-heavy in another system. Another MOST important aspect of this audio-chain, often neglected, is the Room itself. It Influences nearly 50% or more of what we hear.
Cutting the long-story short, we TUNE our systems to adapt to our listening tastes. Though the digital data may be 'Bit-Perfect', it still has to pass through these Peaks & Dips. Like a piece of Electronic, a tweak may as well sound as an Improvement, or as a down-side. Its entirely based upon this Equation, which i call 1+1-2=0.
An interconnect may boost certain frequencies ( add 1), a power cord or speaker cable or the relationship of the Speaker>Room>Listener may dip certain frequencies (minus 2). So at each step, we willingly or un-willingly tailor this line-up to arrive as closely as possible to a Balance (Zero).This is not only evident in low to mid-priced set ups. Even the most expensive set-ups i have auditioned have sounded nothing more than 'Just Ok' or 'Not Bad' to me.
Likewise, all these file deletions serve as tweaks that we are doing to an already set-up project by Cics, with an intention of improving it further if possible. But while implementing these, or for that matter any tweak, what we need to have is Focus. As i already mentioned in a previous posting, " A change need not always be an Improvement". If we have those so-called "Registrations" in our mind, as to how it sounded before making those changes, then there are very less chances of making mistakes. To accomplish that, we either need to audition recordings which we have heard hundreds of times, & are so well versed with them, that we can distinguish between that Improvement or Down-side in that Change thats taken place. I understand that its not easy. But if we could kinda stick to this policy as much as we can, then we probably will lead in the Right direction.. Only by trying to follow it as much as i could, i was able to spot out at the 'sound' & 'wdmaud.drv' files.
Just thought would share my experience with all. Sorry for the long post :-)


Junaid

 

RE: Things are getting really good with these latest ..., posted on September 10, 2011 at 01:26:08
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 little bug: mine doesn't shut down because freezes itself closing cMP (I must turn off by PC switch )but restarts with no problems at all.
I don't know which file needs to a regular shut down, I've deleted too much but sound is fantastic. I'll can switch off throughout my life :-)

 

RE: Things are getting really good with these latest ..., posted on September 10, 2011 at 01:38:36
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 Audiodan,
I have implemented all deletions prescribed, but my cMP shuts down with absolutely no problem, like it used to. Since when are u facing this issue?

Junaid

 

RE: Thumb Drive ..., posted on September 10, 2011 at 02:59:33
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 Do you go back to xp mode to add music via thumb drive? Also make sure at least usb 2.0 is enabled in bios/control panel.

 

RE: Things are getting really good with these latest ..., posted on September 10, 2011 at 04:37:47
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 It happens after steppe's step 4. It was too many files and registry change to record. Moreover pc restarts perfectly so I cannot know with precision at which file or goup of files I could attribute this fact.
It's just bit boring but it doesn't matter

 

RE: Things are getting really good with these latest ..., posted on September 10, 2011 at 05:45:39
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 Oh ok.. When I implemented my cMP last year, I had disabled the restart option in the device manager. So I can only Shut down instead of a reboot...

Junaid

 

RE: Thumb Drive ..., posted on September 10, 2011 at 05:55:03
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 Thanks, I'll check. The thing is it used to work. Now I put the same device in the same slot and it never gets discovered. I have to think one of these drivers was used by the external drive, or the plug and play subsystem. Just not sure how to go about finding which one.

 

RE: MORE FILES, posted on September 10, 2011 at 06:32:50
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 I had a similar reaction. As stated by many, we amay be in the relm of fine tuning. I had also made a minor tweek to a power supply, so I let the system run overnight to settle in. I must admit it was very good in the morning. Could be we need to let these things run in for 8 hours before doing the A/B listening test with drivers in/out.

 

After deleting these system files, you should see a lot of device drivers in ! state, posted on September 10, 2011 at 08:02:35
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 What's interesting is these drivers could previously NOT be disabled. But after deleting, Device Manager allows you to disable them. For '2.0b41' under "Sound, video and game controllers" you get:



All apart from your installed soundcard can now be disabled.

I still have to do '2.0b42' and '2.0b43'. Are there more devices that appear with ! after additional file deletions?

PS - It's been a while. Nice work Serge!

 

RE: After deleting these system files, you should see a lot of device drivers in ! state, posted on September 10, 2011 at 08:41:21
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 So nice to see a post of yours. Welcome back. Serge, Mihaylov, and Jolida have been doing a great job of keeping CMP^2 moving.

 

THIRD LIST, posted on September 10, 2011 at 10:24:35
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 Have been listening for more than an hour after doing my 3rd set of deletions...

Junaid

 

RE: THIRD LIST, posted on September 10, 2011 at 10:33:27
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 Ok don't hold us in suspense. What are deletions?

 

RE: THIRD LIST, posted on September 10, 2011 at 10:41:46
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 :-) Will post it in a while. Have to write it down. One of the cleanest Bass qualities is apparent after these deletions. Very deep, as well as controlled... Still analysing critically. Will upload once I feel satisfied with all aspects !! Shortly..

Junaid

 

RE: THIRD LIST - How exciting!!, posted on September 10, 2011 at 14:05:49
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 OK... I admit it.

I am hoping you post today, so I can have the fun of playing with it late tonight!

I think that was half the fun of being on this wonderful ride. Every now and again, CICS would surprise us with a new release. It was like receiving a new $15k CD in the mail from an anonymous benefactor.

I thought it was not possible to improve .39 when Serge came along and took it up a level. Now I hear of new OS tweaks and I scoff that it cannot get better.. Until it does.

Walter

 

Another DLL tweak, posted on September 10, 2011 at 19:41:47
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 I was doing some digging, trying to understand how deleting DLLs can have such a profound impact on SQ, and came across a registry change that forces DLLs to be unloaded. I added it to my CMP XP SP3 machine. I don't know if it is my imagination, but I think its quite positive. Give it a try and see if you concur. Here is the tweak:

When programs run in Windows XP, they frequently use (Dynamic-Link Libraries), which contain shared programming instructions that different applications use in order to run. DLLs are stored in RAM whenever the system summons them; when you quit a program, XP is supposed to release the DLL from memory. But sometimes DLLs can get stuck and do not get released.

You can force Windows XP to release DLLs by adding a Registry key. Run the Registry Editor and go to My Computer-> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE-> SOFTWARE-> Microsoft-> Windows-> CurrentVersion-> Explorer. Create a new subkey called AlwaysUnloadDLL and set the default value to 1. Restart Windows to activate the change or reload registry this way.

I set the default value to 1.

here is the reference http://www.dq.winsila.com/windows/windows-xp-tips/speed-up-your-pc-force-windows-xp-to-release-dlls.html

 

RE: Another DLL tweak, posted on September 11, 2011 at 02:19:21
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 Little confused here. Your link does not work on my pc. Also googling AlwaysUnloadDLL indicates in many cases: does not work or creates other problems.

 

RE: Another DLL tweak, posted on September 11, 2011 at 07:05:46
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 Interesting.. I really just tried it and it seemed like a positive step in micro detail and balance. However, at this point one could argue its just hearing what you want to hear. I had no expectations of success, so I was pleasantly surprised.

I figure, we want to get down to only what is required to run this one app and the sound card. Everything else is overhead that seems to degrade performance.

When you say it did not work, did it cause a problem, or just not produce any change at all? Should be easy enough to back out. Just delete the key.

 

RE: Another DLL tweak, posted on September 11, 2011 at 08:17:52
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 No just the link you provided did not work. When I did my own search I came up with '...does not work...' and '...may cause boot problems...' as a result of the search. I did not try.

 

Makes sense. I am going to try it, posted on September 11, 2011 at 10:02:51
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 Thanks for your research and suggestion.

One wonders if this will be less useful once we have discovered all of the .dll files that can be eliminated?

For the time being one would have to think this is a boon.

 

RE: Makes sense. I am going to try it, posted on September 11, 2011 at 11:04:00
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 Theob has accurately pointed out that there is lots of debate on this one. Many posts say that it was used for pre win2000 systems and is no longer used by XP. It is applicable to Explorer so logically it may do nothing for CMP. Others say it is intended only for programmers to help them in debugging, implying it is still there but not publicized. Could be my imagination, but I believe it had an impact, so I'd be interested in your listening impressions. It is easy to do and easy to reverse. Take a registry export to be extra safe.

 

cics, welcome back., posted on September 11, 2011 at 17:09:49
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Certainly does not harm, posted on September 11, 2011 at 18:17:25
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 No troubles booting up.

There have been so many improvements realized lately with the .dll and driver deletions (along with files ...) that I hesitate to say that I heard something.

If I do it is subtle (duh).

I think this is part of the cumulative gains made with this new initiative. It is likely an important building block. I still wonder, depending on how many of these .dll files we find we can delete if this will become less important? Going in circles, I know.

My machine is minimalist so I can only speak for machines in similar states of tune.

 

RE: Certainly does not harm, posted on September 11, 2011 at 21:03:45
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 Thanks for the feed back. I'm out on business for a week. I'll try removing and reinstalling when I return to see if it is the same on mine. I have all the CMP mods, but it is a laptop as opposed to the target configuration.

 

An apology, posted on September 11, 2011 at 22:02:06
kclo
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 Hi Jolida,

I am sorry about my previous contrary opinion. I was wrong! This is a great list, More transparency, wider soundstage, and more details.

I am not totally sure why I was not convinced previously. I can think of two excuses: firstly I did not give the new deletion enough burn-in time; and secondly I think that the difference in sound of the new tweak is so significance that a shift of focus was needed.

This time around, I took my time and did the deletion in stages, making sure that I like what I hear before moving on, or move back and forth if I was not sure of the benefit of a certain removal (e.g. i386). It was also a great learning exercise, how the removal of a single ddl would make such improvement is quite unbelievable.

Anyway, thanks again Jolida for the great effort. cPlay is now playing better than ever. I think I learn the lesson to wait before voicing my opinion.

 

RE: An apology, posted on September 11, 2011 at 22:21:09
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 Thats absolutely fine. While assessing or could I say 'evaluating' the changes made to the sound via deletions, it's better to give some time, because certain factors play a role in the Process, like our day's mood, quality of the AC power at that time etc. It's good that u te-evaluated them to see if it suits your liking :-)

Junaid

 

Too much air? Try moving winhttp.dll back, posted on September 12, 2011 at 06:45:16
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 Yes, the latest deletion list has a lot of transparency and air. But is it possible that there's too much of a good thing?

After moving the whole list, I find my attention kept on focusing on the high frequencies, while there is a thinness in the mid and bass. So finally I had to move back the winhttp.ddl file, and now there is much better balance in my system.

I wonder if this is unique for my system. If like me, you find that the high is drawing too much attention, try moving back winhttp.ddl and tell me what you think.

KC

 

May cause small problem, posted on September 12, 2011 at 07:35:21
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 I was going to write the same thing as Rick that any change is subtle but seemingly no harm. But now I have noticed that if I leave cPlay running but idling for an extended period, when I go to close it or try to play a track it freezes and a hard system restart is needed. This has happened two or three times now but never before. Sometimes in the past if left it idle I would have to reload cPlay to reset the asio driver but never a freeze. I am going to remove the AlwaysUploadDLL key. Please note I use a Lenovo laptop not the full cMP2 build, and I use a Weiss dac not the julia card.

 

How many are using the Intel Core i3-2100T Sandy Bridge, posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:03:01
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 No one has said much about it for awhile.

Considering getting the GIGABYTE GA-H61M-S2H LGA 1155 Intel H61 and the above processor would like to hear of others recent experience.

Thanks,

 

I leave my machine "playing" all of the time, posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:06:37
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 so have not encountered an idling problem.

We'll see what else might develop.

 

RE: May cause small problem, posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:23:23
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 is it Weiss DAC Asio compatible ?

 

RE: May cause small problem, posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:27:51
riboge
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 Of course. Weiss has his own asio driver for it, and I have been using it for years now.

 

RE: How many are using the Intel Core i3-2100T Sandy Bridge, posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:28:46
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 Hi Rick
I've build my last release of my former cMP2 with a combo of i3 2100T+ GA H67MA UD2H-B3.
This is a fantastic and stable foundation for our system, clearly better than my previous H55+i3 530 combo.
Power consuption of new set is above 30% less than the previous one, and quality of regulators on board is also better .
But.....now my H67 is not more available, after very few months, and his substitute is the Z68MX UD2H-B3, maybe better in the BIOS setting but I'vn't any news about this in a cMP2.
The great advantage of a H67 ( and of Z68 more) is his compliance with next generation of CPU, the Ivy Bridge series, a new 22nm technology, that could spend fewer current of 2100T.
But H67+ 2100T is very effective and stable, great sound!

 

RE: May cause small problem, posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:31:11
amolan
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 Fantastic!!! Just curious , are you using Firewire conection ?

 

RE: May cause small problem, posted on September 12, 2011 at 10:35:00
riboge
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 Yes, firewire, which the Weiss DAC202 sounds best with, as did the DAC2 before it.

 

Thanks, and a question, posted on September 12, 2011 at 11:21:19
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 The Z68 seems like a mixed blessing for cMP.

Please tell me why you think it would be good for cMP machines.

Thanks for your help,

 

RE: Thanks, and a question, posted on September 12, 2011 at 14:58:30
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 Hi Rick
Z68 could be better (could be, maybe)formerly for three reasons, IMHO:
- it could mounts new 22nm Ivy Bridge. They can consume less than i3 2100T, lowering currents circulating on the entire mobo
- the regulators on mobo are always switching ( like everyones!) but are really better builded, a lot than the previous models of mobo ( are the same of H67). In my H67 mobo ( now discontinued, a true pity) current for picoPSU drops from 1,7A of H55 to 1,2A of H67.
- Z68 get a BIOS totally manageable, more than my H67. This could be an advantage to lowering tensions and downclocking CPU.
But someone must try it, I can attest that H67+ i3 2100T is largely better than my previous system but I've scheduled a new mobo CPU combo to april-may of next year, when I'll can buy new Ivy Bridge CPU, if review will demonstrate real improvement.
Ciao
Daniele

 

DLL´s & USB, posted on September 13, 2011 at 01:58:52
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 Hey Guys,

It would be great to know if anyone has any experience with USB/FireWire DACs in regards to the DLL & Driver modifications.
Which are needed in such setups ?

kind regards



Hysolid // Mytek Brooklyn // Spectron Musician III // Analysis Audio Omega

 

RE: DLL´s & USB, posted on September 13, 2011 at 02:52:39
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 any experience with USB/FireWire DACs in regards to the DLL & Driver modifications?

These things are so device specific that you really need to experiment for yourself. I and another inmate who both use the AQVOX USB driver independently and successfully deleted:

usb8023.sys, usbintel.sys, usbcamd2.sys, usbcamd.sys, usbccgp.sys, usbintel.sys, ubstor.sys, usbehci.sys and kmixer.sys.

The overall effect in both cases was a slight "refinement" of the sound - AFAIK we've both left the "tweak" in place.

I couldn't delete usbuhci.sys and usbhub.sys (failed to boot) and didn't try the few others that seemed USB-related. I didn't hear any change on deleting the kmixer driver and can't say which of the rest actually changed the sound (as opposed to doing nothing).

I've had no disastrous side effects but I don't use USB ports for any other purpose than driving a DAC on the two machines I tried it on. As ever, YMMV.

 

Small problem NOT fixed by deleting new key, posted on September 13, 2011 at 07:01:55
riboge
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 Adding AlwaysUnloadDLL set to 1 somehow caused cPlay to freeze if left unused for awhile. Deleting the key and also reinstalling cPlay did not fix this so I had to reinstall the whole system from backup.

 

I will get the Z version and report on what happens, posted on September 13, 2011 at 08:28:05
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 Whenever I read all of the "it is faster" stuff I start to worry which was my main concern for our application.

I will hope for a flexible BIOS and let you know what I find.

Looking at the manual does not show anything different from their typical BIOS but the manuals never show what happens with control/F1 which is what really matters.

THANKS for your help!

 

Go Rick!, posted on September 13, 2011 at 09:14:54
audiodan@tiscali.it
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 I'm so curious about it.....
But I want wait for new setup when will be available new CPU too.
I think you'llhave some surprise using new setting, it's largely better than H55/i3 530 combo in my experience.

 

Fixed replacing ksuser.dll during driver reinstall, posted on September 13, 2011 at 09:51:52
riboge
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 The problem appeared in the reinstalled system so it must have been latent...about to happen even aside from this key being added. ksuser.dll is needed for Weiss driver installation and, it seems, proper functioning sooner or later.

 

Tweaks part 5, posted on September 14, 2011 at 05:30:56
steppe
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 Hello, everybody. In this period I have rebuilt my CMP 3 times, 2 times deliberately leading to a crash and each time applying my own tweaks in a slightly different sequence just to see the "right" way. This is what I propose to do, and it is safe.
Remove to your temp folder, or whatever folder you have chosen, these folders from Windows or Program files or from elswhere: Help (windows help, surely), Internet Explorer, Macromedia, Messenger, Movie Maker, msagent, Netmeetings, Online Services, Outlook Express, Speech, Speech Engine, Video Lan, Windows Media, Windows Media Player and reboot two times. (this is in case you haven't done it yet).
Here goes the tweaks part 5 itself
1. Remove the files: iprtrmgr.dll, rasctrs.dll, mprddm.dll, rasrad.dll, prtmgr.dll, mprddm.dll. Reboot.
2. Registry tweaks
a. Go to regedit, open your registry: H.Key-Classes-Root. Delete wmp.audiocd, wmptheme, wmpskinmngr.1, avifile, audiocd, audiovbscript, audiovbscript.1, wav, wma, wmv, wax, everythimg mp, mpg, mpeg2,3,4, flac and so on (all audio-video multimedia suffixes you know), delete Internet Explorer application and its double - .1, Windows media.
b. Go to H.KEY- Current User-Software-Policies- delete Netscape (repeat with all users)
c. Go to HKLM/System/Control Set001/Services (the same with control set 002 and 003) and delete sysaudio, splitter, cdaudio, swmidi, redbook.
d. Go to HKLM-Software-Active Setup-Installed Components. (Don't be scared) The 4th (cdd79...) from below should be Windows Movie Maker (check in the field to the right) Delete it. The 3rd from above (22d6...) - media player. Delete it.
e. Go to HKLM-Software-Microsoft-delete audiocompr.manager, Internet explorer, IE4 and IE setup
f. Go to Hkey-Users- (you may start with default user but do it within every user listed) s1-5-20 - software-Internet explorer delete it.
g. go to HKLM-System- (all control sets)- services-and delete MSPQM, MSKSSRV, MSPCLOCK
h. HKLM-System-Control set (all sets) ENUM-ROOT-MEDIA delete media
i. HKLM-System-Control set (all sets) -control-Media properties and delete inside everything that doesn't bear the name of your soundcard. The same about Media resources
j. HKLM-System-control set (all sets) -Services and delete: aec, Alerter, asyncMac, audstub, wdmaud, AFD, Browser, DHCP, Dnscache, HTTP, IP6FW (and its .sys file from drivers folder), IPFilterDriver and (ipfltdrv.sys file from drivers folder. All other services with corresponding files will be enumerated below in paragraph j. as files. Remove or delete them from registry AND from folders), IpInIp.sys, kmixer, kssrv, ipnat.sys, ipsec.sys, swmidi, modem, mnmsrvc.exe, splitter, netdde, netddedsdm, netlogon, netman, nla, nic1394.sys, nwlnkflt.sys (+nwlnkipx.sys, nwlnknb.sys, nwlnkspx.sys, nwrdr sys), nwlnkfwd,
perfnet.dll, policy agent, RasAcd, RasAuto, RasMan, rdbss.sys, rdpdr.sys, rdpnp (+drprov.dll), raspppoe.sys, rdsessmgr (+sessmgr.exe), Remote Access, Rpclocator, Shared Access, Spooler (spoolsv.exe !VERY IMPORTANT), Srv.sys, stisvc, ssddpsrv (don't know if it has to do with ssd disks, so be wary), smlogsvc.exe, sysmonlog (+smlogsvc.exe), tapisrv, tcpip.sys (+ tcpip6.sys,), TermDD.sys, termservice (+tcmsetup.exe), Themes, TlntSvr.exe (+telnet.exe, tlntadmin.exe), W32time, wanarp.sys, wdmaud, wmdmPmSn, wuaserv, WZCSVC, xmlprov.
REMOVE THE CORRESPONDING FILES!!!, Perform this castration on all control sets!!!
k.Go to HKLM-System- Control set (all sets)-Control-Class (find 6th from above) {4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} open, find cdrom, remove digital audio, NEXT IS VERY IMPORTANT
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet (all sets) \Control\Class\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} open and delete everything (you may probably retain drm and kx audio driver 0005, but I deleted everything, though drm and kx driver I deleted later)
As You Delete these services from control set 001 it wil be more or less automatically deleted from current control set, but CHECK ALL SETS. When you will see screaming dialogues, don't be scared.
This is a list of files to be deleted mostly from system32 and system32\drivers
exe files: locator, mnmsrvc, netdde, scardsrv, sessmgr, smlogsvc, spoolsv, tcmsetup, tcpsvcs, telnet, tlntadmin, tlntsvr.
dll files: drprov, iprtrmgr, mprddm, ncxpnt, nddeap, nddenb32, netapi (be careful), netcfgx, netevent, neth, netid, netman, netrap, nlhtml, nmevtmsg, nwwks perfnet rasctrs rasrad
sys files: afd, http, ip6fw, ipfltdrv, ipinip, ipnat, ipsec, modem, rio1394, nwlnkflt, nwlnkfwd, nwlnkipx, nwlnknb, nwlnkspx, nwrdr, raspppoe, rdbss, rdpdr, srv, tcpip6, tcpip, termdd and a file wave.inf (search for it)
NOW REBOOT. Listen to some music! (Let your cmp burn in for an hour)
Serge.
P.S. Please, try to do it with a system backup or smth... just in case. I don't expect ANY troubles.
P.P.S. This is the hardest part of the tweaks. Starting from part 7 and up to 9 it will be piece of cake.

 

After part 5 and BEFORE you do part 6, posted on September 14, 2011 at 05:36:53
steppe
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 Hello, everybody. This is an easy thing after tweaks part 5 but, unfortunately, it leads to an OBLIGATORY thing.
YOU SHOULD DO IT ONLY AFTER TWEAKS PART 5 !!!!!
OBLIGATORY THING is that to go on you have to PURCHASE or OBTAIN XPLITE (FULL VERSION!!!) a portable full version will do nicely. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION TO XPLite AUTHORS or VENDORS!!! But I’d like to thank inmates for showing the way.

1. Recollect everything you did to perform minlogon tweak. Find your former real winlogon.exe file. It must be now winlogon.exe.bak. It should be in windows-system32, probably. Check its size (appr. 450-490 kb). Find Your minlogon.reg file
2. Check that windows file protection is DISABLED!!!.
Rename your current winlogon.exe (former minlogon.exe, size appr. 17-23 kb) back to minlogon.exe.
3. Rename winlogon.exe.bak (the original winlogon.exe) to winlogon.exe.
4. Reboot (You should see a user logon dialog.)
5. Install xplite (full version) and run it.
Folks! I type it from memory, I am not at home and cannot get inside xplite, but what I write is easy, you won't get lost.
6. Inside xplite click on the left (windows accessories and optional components). XPlite will check and say you've got smth. like 134 of 169)
Check to uninstall EVERYTHING. Only Notepad, and windows CORE system fonts should remain. Be thorough, get inside every item and, rather, untick everything manually. XPlite is a polite program. It will ask you if you REALLY want to remove system restore, Internet explorer and other funny things. Say YES. After that say ok,or go, or next, or whatever. Xplite will think a little and start working showing you 2 gears turning. Let it work and BE PATIENT. It takes more time than to smoke a cigarette. After everything is completed, say ok, reboot.
7. Now open xplite once again and check that wfp is disabled, go back to windows-system32 and rename winlogon.exe to winlogon.exe.bak, rename minlogon.exe to winlogon.exe, double click on minlogon.reg, apply it to the registry and reboot. If All went well, You will enter a “minloggedon†state again.
In OTHER WORDS, You should revert from minlogon to winlogon perform xplite manipulation and back to minlogon!!!
If You attempt to do xplite tweak in minlogon state, you will get a blue screen crash!
Reboot, listen to some music.
Serge.
P.S. Tweaks part 6 and 7 are ready, but I do not post them now, just to give you some time to assimilate with the new sound and because there is a “hydra†secret in registry that I haven’t solved yet. I personally recreated all cmp tweaks from windows installation to the end of part 6 in 18 hours, but 2 days. And also, folks, if you are reluctant to do all the tweaks with registry yourself, wait till part 6 and just ask somebody to help, as I myself did the first time. It is worth it.

 

Tweaks part 6, posted on September 14, 2011 at 05:42:09
steppe
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 Hello, everybody. It is very good that our community started to be suddenly so active. It's what I was hoping for, but, folks, really, let me post all the tweaks (# 9 is ready), or we will produce a mix, that we won't be able to find the way out from. This is what I propose to do in part 6.
ALL FOLLOWING TWEAKS SHOULD BE DONE AFTER “MINLOGON INTERMISSION†and XPLITE tweaking.
See earlier posts.
First Go to the folder Documents and settings. Remove from everywhere Internet Explorer, Windows Media, Media player and or Windows media player. GO DEEPб GO TO THE VERY BOTTOM. Don't Miss a single instance. Do It In ALL subfolders. Pe patient, please, and thorough. This folder is very deep.
Registry tweaks. Go HKLM-System – Control Set 001 (all sets)-Control-Print (delete it)
Dangerous but necessary : HKLM-System-control set 001 (all sets) –control-device classes -2eb07ea0-7e.., open it and find ##?#Root#System/ open it find inside Acoustic echo canceller, wavetable synthesis and so on - 4 items, delete them.
Now go HKLM-System-Control Set 001 (all sets)-control-class-find E0CBF06C-CD8B (it will be Bluetooth radios) delete it, next delete 68dd1fc5-810f Infrared devices. Reboot. The system works! Now delete in the same place IEE1394, IEE1284.4 printers, IEE1394&SCSI printers, 1284.4 devices, Ports & LPT, Printers, SCSI & Raid controllers, Floppy (yes!), Smartcard readers, IEEE1394 Bus host controllers, Imaging devices, tape drives, non-plug and play drivers, IEE1394 IP Network Enumerator. The name of the thing you are deleting is in the right window, so be wary, but just read. Reboot.
Go HKEY-USERS-Default (all users)-AppEvents-Schemes (delete it), Delete also here Printers
Go HKEY-Users_default (all users) – Software-Microsoft and delete Messenger Service and Microsoft Agent
Delete FILES: confmsp.dll, tapi.dll, wfwnet.drv, eventtriggers.exe, net1.exe, net.exe, netsh.exe, ping6.exe, print.exe, proxycfg.exe, rtcshare.exe, stimon.exe, wiaacmgr.exe, wpnpinst.exe, mpeg2data.ax.
Reboot 3 times (rebooting, IMHO IS the process of system burn in as I begin to think)
Go HKLM –Software-Microsoft- delete smart card
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Media Type\{e436eb83-524f-11ce-9f53-0020af0ba770} delete Extensions.
HK-Users-default (all users) –AppEvents-Event Labels –delete all
HKey-Users-Default (all users) –Software—Intel –delete it (it's a codec)
HKLM-Syste,-Current Control set (all sets)- Services-DRMK and Beep – delete both
HK-USERS-Default (all users)-Software-Microsoft-windows-curr.version. delete telephony and themes
Remove or delete following files:
dxmrtp.dll, winstrm.dll, streamci.dll, mspclock, wiavideo.dll, mciavi32.dll, strmfilt.dll, msacm32.dll (at last), msacm.mll, msvcirt.dll, rasser.dll, sbe.dll, shmedia.dll, spnike.dll, sprio600.dll, sprio800.dll, tcpmon.dll, traffic.dll, vcdex.dll, vjoy.dll, wiausd.dll, viewchannels.exe (application, VERY IMPORTANT), wmploc.dll, mmsys.cpl, wiasf.ax, msrle32.dll, kmddsp.tsp, hidphone.tsp.
Remove folder x86_Microsoft.Windows.Networking.RtcRes_6595b64144ccf1df_5.2.2.3_en_16a24bc0
This is the end of part 6, and you may say that parts 5 + minlogon acrobatics + part 6 are The Rubikon.
Parts 7, 8 and 9 will seem dull and too easy. But all these tweaks make for the great sound that Cics was leading to.
Also you will see, how great is the math behind cplay.
Serge.
P.S. Folks! Somewhere in these battles I lost the capability to use flash card. If you know to what class it belongs, tell me. I don't suffer much, as I use external esata drive, but I don't want anyone else to suffer.

 

Serge, astonishing amount of work!, posted on September 14, 2011 at 07:42:55
rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com
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 Haven't started yet but looking forward to it.

I would like you to comment on Jolida's opinion about wdmaud.dll and JULI@.

I did restore it and I do believe he is right.

If we want to keep this file should we NOT delete the REGISTRY entry? I would think we would not.

I am sure we will all be asking you lots of questions. The post is very dense with information and some of us (me!) might find ourselves a little confused. I will know better when I get into it.

Certainly you have been immersed in this project the last few weeks. I am hoping, and I hope not too selfishly, that you might be more available to help the less capable of us to find our way to the end.

This is a magnificent project and you are quite a fine fellow to share it with us. I feel sure cics is quite proud of the interest you have shown in his endeavor. AND we would love to hear from the man one of these days!!!

THANKS very much,

 

RE: Tweaks part 5, posted on September 14, 2011 at 10:17:12
theob
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 Ok got through Steppe 5 and it sounds good ...a little light (Jolida might not like) but I cant get Services from control panel (to turn off Crypto) and I cant get into Device Mananger to get some stuff off the irq etc. But how would I change drivers for juli@ or load a new sound card or add a new hard drive? In my case I could reload an earlier image of windows but this might be a major issue for many.

The sonics (if they get no better than post Steppe 5) are not enough to justify giving up the above functionality (device mgr, ability to stop Crypto, add new disks etc) from within minlogon. In other words I will try Steppe 6 and 7 but I am skeptical now.

 

What do you use to make the image?, posted on September 14, 2011 at 10:26:36
rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com
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 Let me know.

Thanks,

 

RE: What do you use to make the image?, posted on September 14, 2011 at 10:29:01
theob
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 Its german program called snapshot. Slight cost something like $40 or so.

 

Thanks!, posted on September 14, 2011 at 14:00:07
rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com
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 Something I should do.

Thanks, again,

 

ssdpsrv (speilling correction) and other thoughts, posted on September 14, 2011 at 14:45:47
rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com
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 since I use SSD for my opertaing system I wanted to check on this.

Fist thing O fond is that there is an extra letter in Serge's report.

The next thing is, from what I can see, it has nothing to do with SSD. All I read talks about USB and plug and play ...

I wish you would have made it clearer on what is what with the registry and .dll/.ysy.etc paired deletions. Do all of them have correspondents?
If not it would be good for the squeamish to know which has which.

Maybe there is no confusion when one gets going. I am looking at my office computer to get a feel for what's what. It just seems there could be some confusions with .exe and .dll files if both exist. Do we delete them both if this is the case?

Thanks and hope I do not sound ungrateful - just a bit nervous. I know you recommend an image of WINDOWS but the programs I have looked at seem like they are always ON which seems to me to be a problem in themselves. Is this not the case and if so, whose software are you using for this?

Thanks, again,

 

RE: Tweaks part 5, posted on September 14, 2011 at 15:28:07
theob
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 I went thru Steppe 5 and I missed some stuff which I picked up the 2nd time thru. For Jolida I also listened to Steppe 5 with/without Sound.drv. I like it way better with Sound.drv deleted. It sounds really good. I am still concerned about Crypto and getting into Control Panel to stop it and also to eliminate stuff from IRQ (like Numeric processor and unused usb hubs). I am currently doing Steppe 6 (I Snapshot my image as a backup) but am doing it slowly (I hate minlogon).

If I had to live with Steppe 5 I would. I prefer it now to pre Steppe 5. If anyone knows how to do the above stuff without going thru Control Panel pls let me know.

 

RE: After part 5 and BEFORE you do part 6, posted on September 14, 2011 at 16:48:59
theob
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 Don't know what happened but I reinstalled winlogon, renamed minlogon rebooted and pc booted/wanted to install juli@ but couldn't (didn't like drivers I had) wanted to reinstall usb drivers but couldn't find them. So I am stopped at steppe 5.

 

Be careful!, posted on September 14, 2011 at 19:59:32
Mihaylov
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 I do not recommend to owners of network configurations of cMP2 do this tweak. Only lose time and will restore the system. Too many of the removed files and registry entries are related to network capabilities of the system and the Steppe not even warn about it!
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

Tweaks part 5 done with no problems, posted on September 14, 2011 at 22:21:22
rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com
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 there were a few things I could not find.

Let all of the wmdaud stuff in.

Does seem to offer a clearer view into the music but not enough time before or after to make a real assessment.

One thing for sure it did not go backwards.

Truly a pain to do - probably took almost as much time as the standard optimizations.

Downloaded a copy of XPLite and will make those changes tomorrow.

 

To defend Serge ...., posted on September 14, 2011 at 22:27:42
rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com
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 these mods have been offered as something for the purist.

Network capabilities, from what I have read in the FORUM, are mainly for the sake of convenience and CERTAINLY no one would do this if that was of importance to them.

Only for those wanting to take their computer transport to the highest level. As with all gear that I am aware of one gets to choose between sound and convenience with each option taking a toll against the other one.

I am not interested in any convenience and only want the best sound I can get out of our humble approach.

Thanks to Serge for his efforts.

 

RE: MORE FILES, posted on September 14, 2011 at 23:57:28
kclo
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 It does take something like 8 hours of playing. I had to do it in steps to ease it in and it took me several days. Now I had removed the whole list and the sound is great.

 

RE: Tweaks part 5, posted on September 15, 2011 at 00:41:05
Jolida
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 Theob,
I haven't implemented steppe 5 or 6 yet. Will probably try it soon. And with regards to my liking or disliking of the music, which may get, as u say 'lighter', is truly subjective. Its not a preference of a particular flavour of sound that I have. What I look for, is a Balance in the entire frequency range. As mentioned earlier, if the Highs sound open or airy after a deletion, but at the cost of the lower range going down a notch, then it's a compromise, or as I put it, 'a downside'. It's something like u pulling Ur speakers a few inches more off the Walls, than they are at the moment, which would somewhat result in the same kind of a tonal change. An improvement, on the other hand, is clearly audible, only with familiar recordings which we are well versed with. Making the presentation Lighter, than it should actually be, is like an equalisation, which is not a very good thing in High-end audio.
As I have mentioned already, I haven't tried steppe 5 or 6. I shall post my opinion when I'm done with them soon :-)
As for the sound.drv file, I still prefer it in. Must be an Acoustical difference between Ur room & mine, which likes either. My room measures almost flat using REW software, using 16 ASC tubetraps, 8 Panels by Realtraps & a couple of RPG skyline diffusors on the front wall & ceiling. Did u like the file in more after steppe 5 ??

Junaid

 

RE: To defend Serge ...., posted on September 15, 2011 at 01:42:16
smicyta
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 I suppose the usual caveat applies to the tweakers.

But one can always try this freeware for registries backup.

http://erunt.en.softonic.com/images

Just a few clicks of the mouse to save and restore those deleted registries.

Provided, always, the mouse is still alive after the tweaks.

 

RE: Tweaks part 5, posted on September 15, 2011 at 02:05:48
theob
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 I meant no disrespect or even a value judgement on your taste or your system. I was just giving my subjective impressions to hopefully help others (especially you) who otherwise might wonder what Steppe 5 might do for their systems. I do prefer Sound.drv out post Steppe 5.

I am however perplexed as to why Winlogon acts like I have missing drivers for juli@ and usb ports and wont use drivers I quite clearly have in in my Windows System32folder. When I reloaded my image file (which includes minlogon enabled) my system works fine.

I am also concerned that post Steppe 5 I cannot use Control Panel.

Did you ever get 1g ram to work?

 

RE: Tweaks part 5 done with no problems, posted on September 15, 2011 at 02:16:27
theob
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 Does Control Panel still work for you?

 

RE: Tweaks part 5, posted on September 15, 2011 at 03:42:07
Jolida
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 No I could not. Last night was even worse. Since my attempt of changing to a 1gb ram, the Juli@ console is acting pretty funny. When I start the computer, the "esi" icon loads in the system tray, but when I take the mouse cursor on it, it disappears. The Juli@ is active in the device manager, shows up in the cMp as well, but does not output any signal. Now when I revert back to the original 2gb ram, it behaves the same, even if I restore a working Image back-up. Will try again this evening, else I'm afraid I will have to start from scratch all-over again :-(

Junaid

 

some words about my tweaks, posted on September 15, 2011 at 04:17:02
steppe
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 Hello, everybody. First, let me thank you for your interest. Next, some explanations. I have only one hdd and that is external sata in a esata-usb conbo box. I don't use this computer for anything but music, next, I strive only for the best sound even at the expence of functionality. Next, If your system sounds good, why reinstall drivers?
Next, I believe, I have posted all the warnings about network abilities and so on. If you are going with these tweaks even further, you will settle only with regedit, notepad, picture viewer and copy-paste and search function. AND NOTHING MORE, Folks. The sound will be absolutely devastating.
Serge.

 

New tweaks part 7, posted on September 15, 2011 at 04:21:29
steppe
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 Hello, everybody. This is tweaks part 7 and it is very simple, even dull. But it is really worth it, I think. Before you start, while you still can, remove all video codecs from your system. I have forgotten to mention it before, however, you will delete these files anyway.
This is what I propose to do in part 7:
Delete or remove to your temp folder these files:
getmac.exe ipconfig.exe ipsec6.exe ipv6.exe lights.exe makecab.exe mpnotify.exe mshta.exe nwscript.exe packager.exe powercfg.exe rsnotify.exe shutdown.exe spnpinst.exe wextract.exe winhlp32.exe wpabaln.exe 6to4svc.dll
6to4svc.dll atkctrs.dll atmfd.dll atmlib.dll atmpvcno.dll batmeter.dll batt.dll bthci.dll bthserv.dll btpanui.dll cabinet.dll cabview.dll camocx.dll cards.dll ccfgnt.dll cmsetACL.dll cnbjmon.dll cscdll.dll ctl3d32.dll
ctl3dv2.dll ddraw.dll dgrpsetu.dll dgsetup.dll dhcpcsvc.dll dhcpmon.dll dhcpsapi.dll docprop2.dll dsauth.dll els.dll EqnClass.Dll faultrep.dll fwcfg.dll hhsetup.dll hnetcfg.dll hnetmon.dll hnetwiz.dll httpapi.dll iepeers.dll
imeshare.dll inetcomm.dll inetpp.dll inetppui.dll ipv6mon.dll ipxrip.dll irclass.dll jgdw400.dll jgpl400.dll jgsd400.dll jgsh400.dll KBDAL.DLL kbdcr.dll kbdaze.dll kbdazel.dll kbdbe.dll kbdbene.dll kbdblr.dll kbdbr.dll
kbdbu.dll kbdca.dll kbdcan.dll kbdcz1.dll kbdcz2.dll kbdcz.dll kbdda.dll kbdes.dll kbdest.dll kbdfc.dll kbdfi1.dll kbdfi.dll kbdfo.dll kbdfr.dll kbdgae.dll kbdgkl.dll kbdgr1.dll kbdgr.dll kbdhe220.dll kbdhe319.dll kbdhe.dll
kbdhela2.dll kbdhela3.dll kbdhept.dll kbdhu1.dll kbdhu.dll kbdic.dll kbdinbe1.dll kbdinben.dll kbdinmal.dll kbdir.dll kbdit142.dll kbdit.dll kbdkyr.dll kbdla.dll kbdlt1.dll kbdlt.dll kbdlv1.dll kbdlv.dll kbdmac.dll kbdmaori.dll
kbdmlt47.dll kbdmlt48.dll kbdmon.dll kbdne.dll kbdnec.dll kbdno1.dll kbdno.dll kbdpl1.dll kbdpl.dll kbdpo.dll kbdro.dll kbdru1.dll kbdru.dll kbdsf.dll kbdsg.dll kbdsl1.dll kbdsl.dll kbdsmsfi.dll kbdsmsno.dll kbdsp.dll kbdsw.dll
kbdtat.dll kbdtuf.dll kbdtuq.dll kbdur.dll kbduzb.dll kbdycc.dll kbdycc.dll kbdycl.dll lpk.dll lmrt.dll lprhelp.dll lprmonui.dll mdminst.dll mdwmdmsp.dll mlang.dll mll_mtf.dll mll_qic.dll modemui.dll modex.dll mscms.dll
msexcl40.dll msftedit.dll msimsg.dll msw3prt.dll ncxpnt.dll netcfgx.dll netevent.dll neth.dll netlogon.dll netman.dll netmsg.dll netplwiz.dll netplwiz.dll netshell.dll ntlanui.dll ntprint.dll ocmanage.dll p2p.dll p2pgasvc.dll
p2pgraph.dll p2pnetsh.dll p2psvc.dll panmap.dll photowiz.dll pmspl.dll winhttp.dll winipsec.dll wowfax.dll wowfaxui.dll wship6.dll xmlprov.dll tcpmon.ini irprops.cpl joy.cpl lanman.drv netware.drv edit.hlp net.hlp winhelp.hlp
html.iec webfldrs.msi eventvwr.msc logon.scr pcl.sep pscript.sep sysprint.sep sysprtj.sep ipconf.tsp ndptsp.tsp eventquery.vbs pubprn.vbs prncnfg.vbs prndrvr.vbs prnjobs.vbs prnmngr.vbs prnport.vbs prnqctl.vbs
Remove FOLDERS:
twain_32 and x86_Microsoft.Windows.Networking.RtcDll_6595b64144ccf1df_5.2.2.3_x-ww_d6bd8b95
Several simple registry tweaks
go: HKLM-System-current control set-control-Device classes and delete inside of the following entries, but not the entries themselves:
dff220f3, bf963d80, ad809coo, a7c7a5b1, 9ea331fa, 3e227e76, ffbb6e3f.
Now try to recall the services you have deleted in part 5 (print for convenience)
Now delete them in 2 other places, only here some of them are absent and others have word legacy in front.
Example: Beep from part 5 here is LEGACY_Beep
1 place: HKLM-System-Controlset001 (all sets) - Enum-root
2nd place: HKLM-System-ControlSet001-Hardware profiles-current-system-current control set- Enum-root
Remove Legacy services here too.
Reboot. Listen to some music.
Serge.

 

Do You still need it?, posted on September 15, 2011 at 04:22:48
steppe
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RE: Do You still need it?, posted on September 15, 2011 at 04:36:51
theob
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Location: ann arbor michigan
Joined: November 4, 2000
 Usually when I boot up I go to Control Panel and stop Cryptographic service and I uninstall Numeric Data Prcessor and unused Usb ports to get them off the IRQ. Also when I install a new hdd I enable one of the other Stopped Services (forget which one) to do routine hw management. I have come up with a workaround for Crypto and have discovered how to access control panel from the Command Line but it still does not allow me to get to device mgr. I do not notice any ill effects from inability to get into Control Panel (because it sounds excellent!!) and I could live with it but would rather not.

Also I do not know how to change sound cards or load new drivers without control panel.

 

I See, posted on September 15, 2011 at 05:59:20
steppe
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RE: ssdpsrv (speilling correction) and other thoughts, posted on September 15, 2011 at 06:11:49
steppe
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Posts: 641
Joined: September 28, 2006
 Hello, thank you for the interest. Dlls and exe programs are different. It often happens that svchost is starting with a -key that starts some service and THREADS to other services, represented by other dlls. also there is an utility thst is called run dll as a program. I want to find and EXTERMINATE IT. If I suggest to remove (read delete) a dll it doesn't mean to delete an exe or sys file with the same name. it may come later. I am not a computer specialist, so I may be all wrong. but what I suggest is derived from practice and only after I make sure that the system is stable. Take for e.g. file winspool.exe. It has impact on sq, but though cplay would work without it, cmp wouldn't. So I sort the files, I propose to delete. also, if you have a sp3, PLEASE, make a differences list, that other folks will know that there are some more files to delete.
Serge

 

Do not misunderstand me, posted on September 15, 2011 at 06:50:20
theob
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Posts: 3180
Location: ann arbor michigan
Joined: November 4, 2000
 Look I think what you have done here is brilliant not because you are a computer expert but because you are not. I don't know how I would ever accomplish what you have other than thru brute trial/error. If that is how you did it I salute you even more because that is a whole lot of work. And to the extent that you are sharing it here I thank you. Let me be clear I am not going back from Steppe 5 it is that good...pure highs, depth, transients and dynamics to die for. If I have to reload a prior image of windows to load new hw I will do it. And if I can figure out why reloading Winlogon did not work for me I will be implementing Steppe 6, 7...

I am just looking for a way to avoid reloading windows.

 

RE: To defend Serge ...., posted on September 15, 2011 at 06:51:09
Mihaylov
Audiophile

Posts: 355
Location: Moscow
Joined: March 11, 2010
 "Network capabilities, from what I have read in the FORUM, are mainly for the sake of convenience." -

You are mistaken.

"I am not interested in any convenience and only want the best sound I can get out of our humble approach." -

"Сonvenience" and "best sound" not is mandatory contradict each other.

Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: To defend Serge ...., posted on September 15, 2011 at 07:01:35
Mihaylov
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Posts: 355
Location: Moscow
Joined: March 11, 2010
 "I suppose the usual caveat applies to the tweakers." -

Similar claims to cics could be never!
For example look here http://www.cicsmemoryplayer.com/index.php?n=CMP.08AutoRuns (steps 4 and 5) and here http://www.cicsmemoryplayer.com/index.php?n=CMP.07Optimisations (step 6).
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: some words about my tweaks, posted on September 15, 2011 at 07:27:04
Mihaylov
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Posts: 355
Location: Moscow
Joined: March 11, 2010
 Serge, describe please the configuration of yours audio system: components of cMP2 (system board, CPU, sound card, RAM, PSU, system storage) if you use cMP2, whether the full optimization of cMP2 is made as in cics's website, DAC, amp (pre-amp), speakers.
It would be desirable to know level of audio system on which become and listened tweaks.
The cic's system was the highest level.
Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

Using SP2 - but I will post a list of differences found, posted on September 15, 2011 at 08:12:07
rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com
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 My suggestion was to make it EVEN cleared for us who are much less savvy that you just which suffix to remove.

As if you have not given us enough, I know, it does sound ungrateful, but I figure if you did not want this to be used by others you would not ahve gone to all of the trouble to write it down. Please accept my criticism in that light.

Thanks, again,

 

I was not aware the network could be used to sonic advantage, posted on September 15, 2011 at 10:59:02
rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com
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Location: Atlanta
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 My apologies for not paying better attention.

I do wonder, though, if with the removal of the networking capability could there be such an improvement, without using a network, that one could come out ahead?

 

RE: I was not aware the network could be used to sonic advantage, posted on September 15, 2011 at 13:45:16
Ryelands
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Posts: 1867
Location: Scotland
Joined: January 9, 2009
 with the removal of the networking capability could there be such an improvement

It needs to be tested but my guess would be that a good network-connected but headless setup would come out on top.

The orthodox setup includes a keyboard, a mouse (possibly a wireless one) and a monitor (perhaps with a touchscreen), all of them noisier than school children at a boy-band concert. Many builders use separate switching power supplies for the CPU, for the motherboard and for disk drives and adopt a bewildering variety of measures to tame them. Data are stored on locally-connected (notoriously noisy) spinning disks. The whole lot is typically squeezed together in a case beneath a rat's nest of cables. What a mess. (If you don't believe me, look at almost all pictures of inmates' systems - they're a veritable plague of "leeches on a mermaid's ass".

Compared to that lot, the likes of a Fit-PC2 (or indeed almost any mini-ITX mobo where the total power draw is about the same as most soundcards on their own) with a good linear PSU sited remotely, an SSD for the OS (also with a remote linear PSU) and a LAN to provide control and data seems to me as simple as it gets.

Hmmmmmm. A Keyboard, a mouse, a monitor, switching PSUs, at least one spinning disk, a soundcard with enough PSU add-ons to rival a small aircraft - or a mostly-inactive networking stack. Tough call.

Mihaylov: I do not recommend to owners of network configurations of cMP2 do this tweak

I've done most of the steppe 5 deletions and am reasonably convinced that there's an improvement to be had but I have not tried deleting anything that might be to do with networking and probably won't.

"Сonvenience" and "best sound" not is mandatory contradict each other.

Agree completely.

Dave

 

RE: I was not aware the network could be used to sonic advantage, posted on September 15, 2011 at 16:51:40
Mihaylov
Audiophile

Posts: 355
Location: Moscow
Joined: March 11, 2010
 Hi Dave!
Please describe your version of step 5 for the network configuration of cMP2 a la Fit-PC2.
Thanks.


Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: I was not aware the network could be used to sonic advantage, posted on September 15, 2011 at 17:59:09
theob
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Posts: 3180
Location: ann arbor michigan
Joined: November 4, 2000
 There you go again smoking that cigarette (in a holder of course) talking with a David Niven accent, :)

 

RE: Another DLL tweak - I'm keepin it!, posted on September 15, 2011 at 18:29:47
wlowes
Audiophile

Posts: 112
Location: Toronto
Joined: April 18, 2009
 I have now toggled it on "1" and off "0". There is no question on my system that this makes a very noticable change. Sound stage came forward and a little more 3d. Main change is more air and less congestion.

I was out of town for a few days. Listened briefly to 3 well known cuts. Booted back to explorer, into regedit made the change and rebooted to cmp and listend to same 3 cuts. Immediate and not subtle degradation with setting at "0".

I am thinking the difference is I am running USB out to a DAC. Perhaps this has more impact then with the more conventional @Julie configuration.

I have had no instability issues and I am leaving this one in.

 

RE: Do You still need it?, posted on September 15, 2011 at 18:57:17
GStew
Audiophile

Posts: 633
Location: NE Mississippi
Joined: September 21, 2001
 Theob & others...

If you can't get to the control panel anymore, here's how to get to some of the functions directly...

First, set cMP to open the Task Manager at Startup. In the Task Manager, select File, Run, then Browse to one of the following files in windows\system32\ for some useful Control Panel options:

Services.msc - Services

appwiz.cpl - Add/Remove Programs

desk.cpl - Desktop

sysdm.cpl - System Properties (for the Hardware Manager)

main.cpl - Mouse

I've only gotten through Steppe 4 & Jolida 1 & 2 so far, but these still work for me.

Greg in Mississippi


Everything matters!

 

RE: Do You still need it?, posted on September 16, 2011 at 03:10:01
theob
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Location: ann arbor michigan
Joined: November 4, 2000
 Great cant wait to try!

Unfortunately did not work...I get same result. I can access what looks like device mgr for example but when I click on it I get an error message.

 

RE: Using SP2 - but I will post a list of differences found, posted on September 16, 2011 at 05:01:29
steppe
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Posts: 641
Joined: September 28, 2006
 Hello. Criticism accepted. From tweaks part 7 I try to be absolutely precise with filenames. Also, if network defenders will read this, real orthodox setup was no network and no keyboard and even no mouse (why then write a program called cicsremote and use a touchscreen.) I don't understand why we need network. To grab music from torrents? I don't do it.
Serge

 

RE: Using SP2 - but I will post a list of differences found, posted on September 16, 2011 at 05:44:35
Ryelands
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Posts: 1867
Location: Scotland
Joined: January 9, 2009
 real orthodox setup was no network and no keyboard and even no mouse (why then write a program called cicsremote and use a touchscreen.)

Because some users find a touchscreen convenient. I don't - nor was I ever convinced that the sonic crud it must cause made it worthwhile. For that and other reasons, I eventually rejected the "orthodox" setup and looked for a different solution. Others have done much the same.

I don't understand why we need network. To grab music from torrents? I don't do it.

For the benefits of networked (headless) setups, see here:

http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/9/95222.html

and here (though it's a bit dated):

http://www.cicsmemoryplayer.com/index.php?n=CMP.Headless

Nothing to do with downloads! Other reasons? Monitors are ugly, greedy for space and, esp with a touchscreen, expensive to buy and run.

++++

Theob sees me as a smoothie, David Niven smart ass.

So how do I picture him? Hmmmmmmm Thinks . . . How about as one of those hicks a'jumpin' an a'cursin fit to bust - while a'blastin' away at yet another Goddamn motherboard that's just gone up in smoke??

Only jokin', Pardner.

 

RE: I was not aware the network could be used to sonic advantage, posted on September 16, 2011 at 05:57:29
riboge
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Posts: 675
Joined: June 25, 2008
 I haven't had time to attempt step 5 but am also daunted re impairing network function. Could you say which items you do not change or delete in order to preserve this?

 

RE: Using SP2 - but I will post a list of differences found, posted on September 16, 2011 at 06:15:36
Mihaylov
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Posts: 355
Location: Moscow
Joined: March 11, 2010
 "I don't understand why we need network." -
1. To provide the FULL GALVANIC ISOLATION of cMP2 from hdd.(I explain that it is important first of all for a SQ).
- It is irrelevant certainly only if you use ssd and do not use hdd (internal, usb hdd, esata hdd, etc.) generally. Big ssd (more 500 GB) too expensive for me.
- And certainly it is critical if you made the full optimization of cMP2 with the full linear psu and your audio system is good enough.
2. Usage of network capabilities allows to delete the mouse, the keyboard, the built-in monitor, to disconnect all usb ports as already correctly noted Dave.(I explain that it is important first of all for a SQ).

Serge, I recommend to you to study the content of website CICS attentively.


Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

cPlay under Win 7 x64, posted on September 16, 2011 at 06:19:29
dice83
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Posts: 2
Location: Kiev
Joined: September 16, 2011
 Why i can't run cPlay under Win 7 x64 with native ASIO driver of my card? cPlay working only when i use ASIO4ALL.

 

RE: I was not aware the network could be used to sonic advantage, posted on September 16, 2011 at 06:43:59
Ryelands
Audiophile

Posts: 1867
Location: Scotland
Joined: January 9, 2009
 Please describe your version of step 5 for the network configuration of cMP2 a la Fit-PC2.

Sorry for the delay - I decided to check that I'd done everything on the lists before answering your question. (I hadn't but I have now.) I don't have a "version" as such though I do have a procedure. In case it's helpful, here it is.

1. I have already worked at length with Bold-Fortune's XP Slimming Guide (see link). Much of what steppe recommends I have, for different reasons, already done and, in many cases, have gone further. (Details later!) That said, his suggestions have a marked effect on SQ and are well worth doing.

2. I would advise anyone against making changes like this unless they have an imagefile backup utility such as Snapshot or Acronis. It's a good idea also to have a docking station on your desktop box as it makes for quick recovery. Non-recoverable errors are pretty much inevitable.

I would also urge inmates NOT to use XPLite for anything other than disabling WFP. See link for a good explanation of why XPLite is best avoided.

But you know all this.

3. Copy the AA post into a text file and format it so it's easy to read (e.g. one step per line). See what steps are likely to involve networking. Clues include, obviously, the likes of files with net, tcp and ip in the name.

4. Perform the various steps in cMP Mode - it makes testing much quicker. Create shortcuts to regedit.exe and cmd.exe and place them somewhere easy to find. Launch Explorer from cMP's GUI and navigate to the shortcuts.

5. Work your way through the lists line by line. Skip any steps that you suspect may affect networking.

As you're accessing the cMP^2 box via VNC on an Internet-enabled desktop, it's easy look up any files you're not certain about. Much of the info is provided by companies trying to sell "security" software and isn't much use but you can usually get a rough idea sooner or later.

If the named file is present, decide whether to keep or delete it; make a note in your text file of what you delete. XP denied me access to some files - I didn't try to over-ride it.

If you disabled as many devices as possible prior to or during the XP install, many of the listed files may well not be present. I could only find about a quarter of them.

6. Test the system every few steps. This is easy if you stay in cMP Mode - a quick reboot is all you need.

7. Make regular backups of the OS partition - much better than the oft-recommended procedure of copying files you delete in the hope you can restore them in the event of fatal error. You'll forget where they came from and, in any case, copying doesn't protect you against Regedit errors.

The more often you make backups, the less time it takes to pin down the source of a problem.

8. I suppose, what with this and that, steppes 5 and 6 took me about two hours. I had no fatal errors (though I've had plenty before).

HTH

Dave

 

RE: I was not aware the network could be used to sonic advantage, posted on September 16, 2011 at 07:10:08
Mihaylov
Audiophile

Posts: 355
Location: Moscow
Joined: March 11, 2010
 I normally adhere to that procedure which you described. But it demands a lot of time. I thought that may be you have the LIST of changes in the registry and file system which it is necessary to make for the step 5 on full optimized cMP2 with network. But all the same thanks!


Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: cPlay under Win 7 x64, posted on September 16, 2011 at 09:13:46
audiodan@tiscali.it
Audiophile

Posts: 108
Location: Cagliari - Sardinia
Joined: July 7, 2009
 Hi
which sound card driver are you using?
Note that cplay needs 32bit ASIO only.
If you are using foobar too you can open foobar' setting, open the window for setting ASIO and select 32 bit from here but it needs your driver get this option, obviously!
Daniele

 

RE: Help please, cPlay installed but fails to run, posted on September 16, 2011 at 09:29:04
audiodan@tiscali.it
Audiophile

Posts: 108
Location: Cagliari - Sardinia
Joined: July 7, 2009
 Hi kclo
are you performed some step of " cancellations files fever"?
I think it could be possible you've cancelled something wrong for your system. It seems to me the only valid explication for your strange fau
Daniele

 

RE: cPlay under Win 7 x64, posted on September 16, 2011 at 10:02:01
dice83
Audiophile

Posts: 2
Location: Kiev
Joined: September 16, 2011
 My apologies! I think it was something wrong with the OS. But today i came home and starting to search, and finaly i found it. It was selected a 24 bit in ASIO driver. I select 32 and it's run perfect!!! This programm great! I love it! Thank you for this great player and many thanks for your help! God bless you!

 

XPLite is worth the money, posted on September 16, 2011 at 10:03:52
rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com
Audiophile

Posts: 3040
Location: Atlanta
Joined: December 15, 2003
 After installing this I think I am getting a glimpse of what will be realized after all of the deletions are made.

Spaciousness! An almost incredible increase in space around instruments and voices. On pop records it is amazing how long you can hear the artificial ambiance as it decays, one can hear the separation of the voice (in the recordings I was listening to) and the effect. I am having trouble describing this artifact of multichannel recording but I use it as an illustration of the resolution.

Started doing some of the NUMBER SIX registry deletions and had some mysteries which I need to re-check before "complaining".

I am seeing the banks of the Rubicon with this latest change. I can't wait to reach the other side. (Do not fear, fellow Romans, I have not brought an army)

Thanks, Serge. This is getting really REALLY good!

 

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