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got a raspberry pi 3 coming, what to do with it?

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Posted on December 22, 2016 at 16:41:46
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My boss gave me an amazon gift card for the holidays, I ordered a Raspberry Pi 3 with it. What to do with this one?

I had the version 1, but it wasn't good for lossless even with Rune and some other things I've tried. Just not enough power. However I read the 3 is supposed to be better.

How much progress has that space made in terms of turning the pi into a network streamer? I see there are $40 touchscreens I can possibly build something neat, just don't know if the software still uses tablets to control everything with most of the music playback distros.

Also I might have the opportunity to turn it into a NAS, using openmediavault, right now I have a hacked Asus Chromebox where I hacked it by removing the read only firmware screw by opening up the case and flashed the firmware and now have that running open media vault, however it is very overpowered for such a task (sharing a 2TB USB drive over my network for music);

 

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I've got 5 of them .............................., posted on December 22, 2016 at 16:50:47
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Download PiCorePlayer and it will become a Squeezebox...... Easy Peasy !

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thanks, posted on December 22, 2016 at 17:08:38
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I can check it out, thanks a lot.

I liked Rune Audio when I first tried it on the first original Raspberry Pi, you can check it out here.

 

Check this out. Pi 3 aluminum cases, posted on December 22, 2016 at 18:21:01
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Nice aluminum cases for Pi 3. I have not verified fit and finish or suitability for your specific Pi board but thought I would pass this on. See link below.




P.S. I asked, "Alexa, what is Pi to 500 digits?". She wouldn't stop! I had to tell her to shu tup. It was driving me nuts! ;-)



 

very cool, posted on December 22, 2016 at 18:35:39
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nice, that looks like overboard,

I got the link below, $50 and I had to get a microSD card for it, I think I'll just use it as a NAS with openmediavault because I already have 2 streamers and I don't want to fiddle with squeezebox legacy software at the moment,

there is a lot of cool things you can do with music serving with the pi especially if you have a USB DAC. :)

 

RE: very cool, posted on December 22, 2016 at 18:46:10
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But if you put it in a cool custom case, you can start selling your Pi's for big bucks! Bryston does, theirs is $1295. ;-)



 

RE: very cool, posted on December 22, 2016 at 19:09:06
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i would at least add a touch screen for $40 that adds in the album info and ability to select what you want to listen to, mimicking a CD player FWIW.

I have an old phone I might want to repurpose the touch screen, all I think I need is a power source and USB, might be a fun project seeing what kind of music "CD" player I can come up with that plays FLAC.

 

Audio & Video Capability Question, posted on December 23, 2016 at 05:48:02
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So I utilize a dedicated Mac Mini with my home audio systems and TV (Schitt Bifrost DAC, AR Preamp, HK Citation II amp). I either stream Free audio (Spotify) or Free TV programs. I do not store audio files on the Mini or down load Movies. I do control the Mini with a wireless keyboard and trackpad, and utilize either the TV or a remote monitor to view and control the Mini. Question: Can a Pi 3 be setup to do all of this, with equal or better audio quality?

 

RE: Audio & Video Capability Question, posted on December 23, 2016 at 05:56:04
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Yes. --- You can buy a Pi and Digi+ board (to output to a DAC) for less than $75 and do this. So, not that much downside.

I was running 4 Squeezebox Touches before and bought 5 Pi, Sold the SBTs and pocketed about $700 and now I have better audio quality and much more stable hardware with more features.

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RE: Check this out. Pi 3 aluminum cases, posted on December 23, 2016 at 12:17:35
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Yes, there are quite a few different cases for the Pi...... I was going to get one for our winter travel in the Bahamas, but in the end I like to see the cool LED lights inside the Pi.... So I went with Acrylic again. Even though Metal would have been more robust for travel.

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Update, using the Raspberry Pi 3 as a NAS (pic), posted on December 24, 2016 at 16:57:51
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I put on it open media vault. Working fine after fiddling a little bit.

Thanks for all the help and moral support, this is a neat little machine, streaming FLAC from a USB drive hooked up to it and load is only 20%, memory usage about 10mb.


 

RE: Update, using the Raspberry Pi 3 as a NAS (pic), posted on December 25, 2016 at 08:20:37
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Just get this and Volumio. No need for a screen assuming you have a device that can access your local network and has a web browser. I don't know maybe a phone or tablet. You can stream your music from anywhere on your network using Volumio. Tried Rune, PiCore Player, and Moode but I kept coming back to Volumio for one simple reason. Best sound quality.

There are a dozens or other DACs to try such as Durio, JustBoom, Iquadio, etc.

I also have a ChromeBox, but I installed the latest UEFI bios and Windows 8.1. Tried Gallium OS, Kodi, other distros of "ChromeBox friendly" Linux. Once I installed 8g more memory and Windows 8.1 it ran like a "normal" computer and made me realize that all of those other Chromebox OS choices were pointless.

 

RE: Update, using the Raspberry Pi 3 as a NAS (pic), posted on December 25, 2016 at 08:56:37
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If I would use The Pi for music, I would just use USB.

Pretty cool stuff you can do though, thanks,

 

RE: Update, using the Raspberry Pi 3 as a NAS (pic), posted on December 25, 2016 at 12:00:31
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USB? Name one USB DAC that can be purchased for under $100 that would be worth connecting to anything beyond a boombox.


 

RE: Update, using the Raspberry Pi 3 as a NAS (pic), posted on December 25, 2016 at 14:17:41
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I don't know any DAC under $3K that is worth it either.

If you find one under $100 let me know. Closest I've used that is worth it on a budget is the Yaqin DAC K-9 for about $500.

 

RE: got a raspberry pi 3 coming, what to do with it?, posted on December 27, 2016 at 08:15:40
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Have a look at the audiophonics portfolio:

http://www.audiophonics.fr/en/raspberry-pi-and-other-sbc-c-660.html


It'll give you some ideas.

When it comes to distro.

Try Moode Audio. It'll provide you several playback options and is IMO ahead of PiCorePlayer, Volumio and Rune. Latest version comes also with squeezelite.
It's the only image I'm aware of that comes with MPD (standalone player) and squeezelite (network client) .
(Note: I'm involved a little in the Moode project (kernel, squeezelite, tunings). I'm not 100% neutral on this one.)


I'm running iFi iPower as power supply for my Pi.

Stay away from attaching displays. This will cause extra load and might have impact to your sound quality.
There are numerous control apps under Android and iOS. No idea why anybody would like to attach a display.

The USB port needs a turbo (there are plenty of USB audio gadgets around) . Otherwise it falls behind quality ports from other machines.


You can't expect to just boot up an image on the PI and you'll be set.

The tinkering around the PI is the fun part though.


Good luck.


 

RE: Update, using the Raspberry Pi 3 as a NAS (pic), posted on January 6, 2017 at 11:52:39
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I'm using my RP3 for openmediavault too. My RP2 is running Rune and my RP1+ is running kodi.

I need another RP to monitor my beer temps.

looking for some jazz and a little libations - joe strummer

 

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