The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . .

RE: Trane & Johnny Hartman. (nt), posted on November 12, 2009 at 16:05:26
soundfan Audiophile Posts: 122 Location: Brisbane,Australia Joined: June 9, 2004	+1 A great album. Chris

Well, here's a candidate for the honor ..., posted on November 4, 2009 at 09:48:54

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The great Johnny Hartmann, with the great Hank Jones et al.

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Johnny Hartmann

Can't bring yourself to acknowledge Coltrane I see, posted on November 4, 2009 at 15:17:55
GEO Audiophile Posts: 2197 Joined: April 7, 2000 Contributor Since: September 9, 2000	That album pales in comparison to the Album with Coltrane. Even Johnny would admit to that. I have virtually every J Hartman record...even a disco record....

Actually I have not heard that particular album, posted on November 6, 2009 at 09:32:16
Mike K Audiophile Posts: 6433 Joined: September 23, 1999 Contributor Since: May 7, 2000	So I am not in a position to give an opinion on it. It's got nothing to do with Coltrane. But I do see that you still are quite insecure about Coltrane ... Mike

I apologize, posted on November 6, 2009 at 13:10:32

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You should give it a listen. If I recall correctly, Rudy Van Gelder felt that it was his best recorded work. He was featured in an interview on NPR a several years ago. Also, I don't recall where I read it, but there was a good story that talked about the events leading up to that session which really turned out to be quite special. I bought that album early in my exploration of jazz when I knew very little....in fact, I thought Johnny Hartman was a trumpet player when I bought the record and had I known he was a singer, I would not have purchased it! I listened to that recorder over and over the first day I bought it. Its a brilliant and sincere record. You should own it. I bought I Just Dropped By to Say Hello a year or so later as I was getting all the Johnny Hartman that I could find. Nice in its own way but it does not offer the same level or artisty that Hartman and Colrane offers....just my 2 cents.....sorry for the overreaction

Apology accepted., posted on November 6, 2009 at 21:27:32
Mike K Audiophile Posts: 6433 Joined: September 23, 1999 Contributor Since: May 7, 2000	That one is actually on my list of records to buy, but when in record stores I just never think about it. But I will get it eventually. I haven't been buying much jazz lately; mostly bluegrass and folk. It seems to me that many of the best musicians in non-classical music today are working in these genres. A lot of my friends feel the same way. But then again, we're all "old fogies". Mike

RE: Can't bring yourself to acknowledge Coltrane I see, posted on November 5, 2009 at 04:04:27

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Fellas, please, Johnny Hartman has a great voice. Rich baritone cured in smoke and honey, but, fellas, jazz is about improvisation. Mark Murphy sings like a jazz musician plays. He gets a feeling from the song and tha arrangment of it and joins in. We might not be having this discussion if you boy's had the particular album I'm talkin about. As mentioned, some of the tunes from it are spread out over his album, Songbook. Listen to the outtake of All The Things You Are, what he does with the choruses of Eleanor Rigby, and the ladies songs, ALL of those. He's a feeling singer, perhaps you've heard that expression, and a great improvisor. The things he can do with a word or a sentiment. You just gotta give him some volume to lay it all out!

RE: Can't bring yourself to acknowledge Coltrane I see, posted on November 5, 2009 at 05:00:34
GEO Audiophile Posts: 2197 Joined: April 7, 2000 Contributor Since: September 9, 2000	My post was just a reference to Johnny Hartman. His LP with Coltrane is far superior to 'I just dropped by to say hello' which is just a stylized jazz LP so I am not surprised that guy loves it.

Ya beat me to it..............nt, posted on November 4, 2009 at 11:59:26

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"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain

RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . ., posted on November 4, 2009 at 07:54:57
Travis Audiophile Posts: 3266 Location: La Grange, Texas Joined: November 25, 2001 Contributor Since: May 13, 2008	Jim, you should look into Kurt Elling if you haven't already. He does a Pat Metheny tune (Elling's lyrics) that's pretty killer. "If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok

RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . ., posted on November 4, 2009 at 08:04:32
jimdgoulding@yahoo.com Manufacturer Posts: 287 Location: Le workshop Joined: May 24, 2007	Thanks, T. I've seen (and heard) him on the tele once. Quite obviously sounds like MM but didn't seem to use his voice as musically or instrumentally at its best as the MM that I've heard, but that's been my only exposure. I'll look for the one with that tune. You gonna check out Vienna Teng in your old neighborhood? I'm calling for tickets today.

RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . ., posted on November 4, 2009 at 09:18:41
Travis Audiophile Posts: 3266 Location: La Grange, Texas Joined: November 25, 2001 Contributor Since: May 13, 2008	Nevah hoid of her. Not much of a singer/songwriter fan. (Hope my singer/songwriter daughter doesn't read this.) Nope, but Friday I'll be digging Kenny Garrett at Verizon in Big H. "If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok

RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . ., posted on November 4, 2009 at 10:32:52
jimdgoulding@yahoo.com Manufacturer Posts: 287 Location: Le workshop Joined: May 24, 2007	Pharoah Sanders touring with him? He's been on two of Kenny's albums of late. Check out Shades of MD- Live at the Iridium.

RE: The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . ., posted on November 4, 2009 at 11:33:18
Travis Audiophile Posts: 3266 Location: La Grange, Texas Joined: November 25, 2001 Contributor Since: May 13, 2008	Got that one although Pharoah, IMHO, does not add a whole lot. Just so there are no sing alongs. "If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok

you can actually understand his lyrics, posted on November 3, 2009 at 17:28:39

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i got complaints from my daughter daily for playing jazz all the time but she would go around singing 'stolen moments'.

my first purchase were the kerouac discs and i love them. muse records also had a way of making instruments sound right which is a nice plus for us audio guys.

in a tv video he showed himself to be tragically conscious of his balding pate and wore a really garish rug BUT his performance of jazz was exemplary on that video.

in the past few years i have seen him a couple of times live that were mostly disappointing with a few choice highlights. i cant say i would go see him live again but his records continue to be worthwhile. thankfully you CAN fix it in the mix.

...regards...tr

RE: you can actually understand his lyrics, posted on November 3, 2009 at 21:25:48
jazz1 Audiophile Posts: 959 Joined: October 30, 2000	I also went to see him live show and like you it was most disapointing and his wig is just a joke, maybe he is past his prime?? his earlier recordings are my favorites.

istill buy his albums (CDs), posted on November 4, 2009 at 06:26:39

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they are STILL albums. theres a new one out that i still need and a couple of others that i havent found at the right price yet but i have most of what i need.

kurt elling is his protege and has carried on the style and refined it to a razor edge. ive seen him live here in LA a few times now with great results. my daughter saw him in rotterdam but he scatted most of the program and it didnt please her as much as when we have seen him at catalinas in hollywood.

the best album to start with kurt is "the messenger" where he makes the dexter gordon tune 'tanya jean' his own.

...regards...tr

RE: istill buy his albums (CDs), posted on November 4, 2009 at 07:30:37
jazz1 Audiophile Posts: 959 Joined: October 30, 2000	I've seen Kurt a few times and he is great "Live" I have all his cd's and enjoy most of it. My wife adores him she think that he is really sexy!! This is the only jazz musician she really enjoy. The big plus of Kurt over Mark is the band, his connection with them is really telephatic.

check mark murphy's personnel lists, posted on November 6, 2009 at 21:31:33
hifitommy Audiophile Posts: 9503 Location: shaky sylmar calif, orig from buffalo ny Joined: June 9, 2000	on his albums. some of the very best are there. that always amazed me. kurt's band otoh is always with him and the sound is more consistent. both are prominent in my collection. ...regards...tr

Bingo Jimbo! - That's what I was going to say!, posted on November 3, 2009 at 10:58:36
woober goober	Mark Murphy rules! My favs of his are: That's How I Love the Blues September Ballads Once To Every Heart Love Is What Stays

Ummmhhh!!!!! ???? nt, posted on November 2, 2009 at 21:36:34
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RE: Ummmhhh!!!!! ???? nt, posted on November 3, 2009 at 09:10:55
jimdgoulding@yahoo.com Manufacturer Posts: 287 Location: Le workshop Joined: May 24, 2007	jazz1- You might want to "ponder" on over to Amazon or someplace and order the Mark Murphy Songbook. This is a collection of tunes from MM's Muse days to include some tracks from Satisfaction Guaranteed (Muse) which is no longer available. Listen LOUD, my friend. He inhabits his songs. He'll inhabit you with them, too, LOUD. Mess you up, dood.

RE: Ummmhhh!!!!! ???? nt, posted on November 3, 2009 at 09:44:37
jazz1 Audiophile Posts: 959 Joined: October 30, 2000	Been listening to Mark Murphy for the last 20 years I do enjoy his music but I find his mannerism a little tiring and boring. I much prefer him on slow ballads where he does not try to be too hip!

RE: Ummmhhh!!!!! ???? nt, posted on November 3, 2009 at 10:31:33

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Then you must like Don't Go To Strangers/Don't Misunderstand from this, right? I used to think like that. . that's he's TOO hip, but I've come to think he is one of the best note benders ever. Truth be told, I was foolin around with my VTA over the weekend and this was handy. I was listening very loud so no nuance was escaping me. He has Sinatra and Joe Williams in there but it's his phrasing. I admire him for singing anything he feels passionate about like those two which are really women's songs to include Welcome Home. And the arrangements are superb on this. Think you oughta do what I did, old sport, listen again and loud. Worked for me. Nothin to lose. Cheers.

It's true! The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . ., posted on November 2, 2009 at 22:29:17
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RE: It's true! The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . ., posted on November 3, 2009 at 09:13:36
jimdgoulding@yahoo.com Manufacturer Posts: 287 Location: Le workshop Joined: May 24, 2007	THOUSANDS of days. And nights.

RE: It's true! The greatest male jazz vocal album ever made . ., posted on November 3, 2009 at 11:46:32

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O.K...
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Hmmmm-just discovered I have that one -- on a mint, mono, posted on November 3, 2009 at 13:41:00

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white label promo copy. Guess I've no excuse but to give him a listen

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RE: Hmmmm-just discovered I have that one -- on a mint, mono, posted on November 11, 2009 at 19:13:41
jimdgoulding@yahoo.com Manufacturer Posts: 287 Location: Le workshop Joined: May 24, 2007	Ahhh . . and it's his use of half notes. So killer! Elling got all of that from Murphy. Cat oughta be paying him royalties. Sliding scales, too.

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