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Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?

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Posted on October 26, 2009 at 14:24:55
Elizabeth
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 I have owned Maggies (IIb's) and liked them. I am about to retire and want some of that Maggie love back in my sound system.
I am really able to buy either, and know about how much room/power they need.. etc.
My problem is LF. I cannot pass low frequencies through the walls, or face the wrath of the owners. (I LOVE where I live!! it is VERY quiet. And I do not want to intrude on my neighbors.
So, will I have 'too much' bass with the 3.6's? (I play at or near 75dB max measured at seated position with Rat shack meter.)
My current speakers (B&W 805s are just about perfect for the 'no low bass' issue. And I have a small sub to boost only the small chamber Classical or Jazz group, I turn OFF the sub with any Rock music)
So what do Maggie owners think? My stuff has no tone controls.. so the speaker has to be my LF controller.
Thanks!!

You're room, and what you like, posted on October 28, 2009 at 13:56:50
Keith944T
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should also enter into the decision.
I have both.
My experience was that I perceive better imaging with the 1.6's in my room, but the overall quality of the 3.6 was/is (in my room with my setup)significantly better than the 1.6.
I prefer the 3.6 as my front/main speakers and the 1.6's are my surrounds now.
If I had to choose between the two, I'd pick the 3.6's.
Even if I weren't on 4 acres in the middle of the woods!
You're point of mowing grass and shoveling snow is well noted and an affliction I'm afraid I will have to deal with for quite a while!

Whats the size of this room, posted on October 29, 2009 at 04:46:52
fin1bxn@msn.com
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 Any room treatments?

RE: Whats the size of this room, posted on October 29, 2009 at 05:14:18
Keith944T
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 Here's a picture I tookand posted on another thread last week when I got real "small" and climbed up onto the ceiling fan, looking down at the room. That's my 1.6's on the other side. Sorry for the reposting.




14 x 20,

No "commercial treatments" but window curtains, cloth window blind (usually just closed for daylight TV viewing, wich oddly doesn't seem to have much effect on the audible acoustics) 8 x 11 area rug, 3 x 5 rug on opposite wall.
Th large 11.5 foot opening from one room to other seems to thwart imaging from the left
I believe the tweeters inside will give you much . . ., posted on October 28, 2009 at 18:25:14
Alan G.
 more precise, realistic images from the 3.6s than the 1.6s with all the ancillaries at a high level of intelligent design and the right room. Your room looks like a guest Maggie room. The tweeters to the outside seem to make the images unnaturally big and more electronic.

RE: I believe the tweeters inside will give you much . . ., posted on October 28, 2009 at 21:02:36
Neuro
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 I've actually moved my tweeters to the outside since I took that picture (among other things). Inside gave slightly better imaging, but the treble was overemphasized regardless of position.

-- Nils

Hmm, I thought tweeters out was correct ., posted on October 28, 2009 at 20:10:33
Keith944T
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 I just never tried them the other way. I'll give it a shot tomorrow.

What do you mean by "a guest Maggie room"?

RE: Hmm, I thought tweeters out was correct ., posted on October 29, 2009 at 16:29:30
andyr
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 I think it depends on the dimensions of the wall you have them against (the "front" wall). IMO, true-ribbons need to have, say, a minimum 3' gap to the side walls.

My own room is about 17' wide but, in the position I have my panels, there's only about 2' either side of each panel ... so I have my ribbons on the inside.

Some people set their Maggies up along the "long" wall ... if I had done this, I could've had them the same distance apart but would then have 7' gap on the outside of the panels (27' long room). But I'd have to sit very much closer ... so I wouldn't actually be able to have them that far apart!! :-))

Tell us how ribbons-in sounded, Keith. :-))

Regards,

Andy


I meant "a great Maggie room", posted on October 28, 2009 at 20:28:21
Alan G.
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Another...., posted on October 28, 2009 at 17:12:38
slapshot
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 ...very nice looking system!

RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 27, 2009 at 20:44:29
Neuro
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My 3.6-based system is in my apartment's living room. The nice thing about Maggies is their radiation pattern is more neighbor-friendly than conventional box speakers.

Sure, the 3.6s could use a bigger room, but I'm very happy with them.

-- Nils

RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 28, 2009 at 11:20:57
bryan
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 I noticed you have the Tri Traps. Did you start with ASC tube traps in the corners and then put in the Tri's? I'm thinking of getting a couple of tri traps for my front wall corners and was wondering what real peoples experiences are with them. They are much more affordable than the new Mega traps from Real Traps.

RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 28, 2009 at 13:01:32
Neuro
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 Hi Bryan,

I bought the GIK treatments first, and the ASC bits later (used, locally, and for less than half the retail price). The GIK Tri Traps are possibly the most bang-for-your-buck when it comes to corner bass traps:

* They're effective to much lower frequencies than the StudioTraps. You'd have to go with the super pricey 16"+ tube traps to get similar performance.
* They're also a breeze to install -- just stack them in a corner and you're done.

Hope that helps.
-- Nils

RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 28, 2009 at 15:55:20
bryan
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 Thanks Nils. Good to hear they worked well for you. I am ordering two of the Tri's now. And there is 10% off sale at GIK for some of the products for about the next week, including the Tri's. From a performance point of view I hear you on these being more effective than the small to mid sized round ASCs. I think the only thing that can better the Tri's is the similar looking Mega's that Real Traps just released. But they are not as tall so you'd need to stack them, at least two pairs per corner if not more, and they are pretty expensive compared to the Tri's. But they have great specs from the lab. The Tri's are to me clearly the best value from a performance for dollar perspective, and they just look less obtrusive too while being effective still. Not an easy feat where bass trapping is all above coverage and thickness.

I have semi dipole planars and I will eventually try some absorption of diffusion on the front wall directly behind the speakers like you do, but I'm focusing on bass traps first. I will be putting 4 additional bass traps in my room, but panel style instead of the triangular style, and they will be going up along wall/ceiling boundaries and also in one of my back wall corners. I have literally stuck my head along every boundary from corner to corner, wall to ceiling, and located where I have bass buildup.

Maybe you can spur me on to looking at front wall dispersion or diffusion faster than I planned. I wasn't going to rush this because my front wall has big windows (with venetian blinds) and the only way to can put acoustic devices on that wall is to put panels on stands (e.g. Real Traps Micros or RFZs). I can't mount to the windows obviously. And stands would allow me to move them out of the way for the wife. So I'm curious if you found treating the front wall (basically the first reflection point for a dipole speaker firing backwards) with the products you used really paid big dividends or not.

I noticed you treated the ceiling first reflection point too. What was that like? Can you say if you noticed more benefit treating the front wall reflection point over the ceiling reflection point, or vice versa? Or can't you really say because you did all the installations at the same time?

And do have side wall reflection treatment too? I can't do that because it is a living room and my wife won't want acoustic panels on the wall where she would rather have some of our art instead. But I've heard that planar speakers don't really disperse to the sides that much. So I figured planars, along with some toe in, and some space between the speakers and the side wall (3 plus feet for me), would basically rule out the need to treat the side walls anyway. Making me happy because my wife would be happy!

Beautiful!! WOW I AM jealous... But soon may not be !! nt, posted on October 28, 2009 at 08:59:11
Elizabeth
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 .

LOL, posted on October 28, 2009 at 07:33:57
slapshot
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 I like this setup...but the equipment is probably worth more than the apartment! :) Explains why your in the asylum, doesn't it? :)

Some folks do not want the hassle of owning a home. (me included!), posted on October 28, 2009 at 08:57:50
Elizabeth
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 Just as an aside, I 'could' own a home. BUT!! I grew up in an apartment. I find apartment living to be superior to home ownership. (For myself)
I do not have to worry about repairs.. I do not have to worry about mowing the grass, shovelling snow, replacing the water heater/ roof/ appliances. The rent is always WAY less than a mortgage would have been, and includes 'heat' (this is NORTHERN USA), and the taxes, maint. costs AFTER the house is paid for still would equal what I pay in rent. As for leaving a home to someone when I die.. They can take care of themselves.. They do not need me to babysit them.
Some folks love owning a home. (For me) I think it would be a nightmare.

RE: Some folks do not want the hassle of owning a home. (me included!), posted on October 29, 2009 at 08:29:04
Norman M
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The rent (or mortgage) on an apartment affording me dedicated listening rooms for both audio and HT with a 61" TV(in a reasonably decent neighborhood) would be much greater than on my house. My house has an underneath garage making my car immediately available, clean and safe 24/7. It also allows me to bring any purchase directly into my home. I have heating or AC available whenever I want, a washing machine/dryer, also available 24/7 (and not in some common laundry area), I can keep and own as many and any sized pets as I like with no complaints from anyone or interference from other pet owners. I have no-one to tip during holidays nor to obtain favors from. I needn't worry about the grass nor snow/ice shoveling from my driveway or walkway, I happily pay others to do it for me. (I couldn't and wouldn't get down into my driveway at 3AM during a winter storm anway.)And as you say after I die, the remainder of my family can also take care of themselves regardless whether money be made or lost on the house. I've lived in both a house and apt. and would never go back into the latter unless dictated to have to do so by reasons of my health.
the sword of damocles, posted on October 29, 2009 at 05:12:55
wazoo
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 If I could have spent what I invested in a new roof and a heating & cooling system this year on audio instead, I could have a pair of 20.1s along with a pair of damn nice amps to drive them. On the other hand, if I lived in an apartment, the volume at which I listen would be restricted. I bought a couple cars this year too - too many avenues of escape from my bank accounts! Oh well, life is all about choices and I have no complaints (even though I now have two houses to drain my finances). I can see the benefits of apartment dwelling, but I've grown accustomed to living under the dangling (financial) sword of home ownership.


"Jazz is not dead - it just smells funny" FZ
I wasn't suggesting..., posted on October 28, 2009 at 17:06:32
slapshot
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 ...that one should or shouldn't own a home. To me, which is why I'm in this asylum too, the main advantage of owning a home is that I could have a dedicated listening room and also not have to worry about the neighbors.

RE: Some folks do not want the hassle of owning a home. (me included!), posted on October 28, 2009 at 13:07:36
Neuro
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 Elizabeth,

I'm in the same boat. Home prices here in Santa Cruz, CA are pretty astronomical. I could either buy a crappy house or condo and barely scrape by, or live comfortably my apartment that's two blocks from the beach in the nicest part of town. Not a difficult choice at this point in my life.

Like I said, Magnepans are great speakers for apartment living. I'd also recommend Grant's excellent Mye Stands, which seem to help decouple the speaker from the floor. I also use an Auralex SubDude to decouple my subwoofer from the building frame. It cleaned up the bass a LOT and also pleased my neighbors. :)

-- Nils

RE: Maybe you're right,, posted on October 28, 2009 at 09:41:56
Travis
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 homes used to be a good investment. At least it was for me. I could never have retired without making money on every house we owned (2). Buy low, sell high.


"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 27, 2009 at 19:07:02
esande
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 I have 1.6s in a fairly small apartment. Plenty of current in the amp and I'm very happy with them. No complaints about excessive noise but I rarely hit 90 db with them although they will play much louder. Of course I have concrete walls on two sides as well as concrete floor and ceiling. No problems and very satisfying.

Currently I'm completing a refurb of my 1986 SMGas, those are what are playing now. These almost but not quite get to the 1.6's level. I'm giving them time for the caps to settle down, so they're runing sockless and stileless (heh) right now. But they also sound superb in my environment.

I haven't tried anything bigger, although the point about moving more air at low volume levels makes sense to me.

I'm pretty sure that with a clean high current amp you can have a good time in a small space with Magneplanars, as long as you have the room to get them far enough out from the front wall. Which ideally wouldn't be drywall with a sensitive neighbor behind it, that is.
RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 27, 2009 at 09:51:16
morricab
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 Look at some other planar speaker as Maggies need to be a bit louder to "wake up". Electrostats or Apogees do better a lower volumes.

RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 31, 2009 at 14:56:10
monk1
 Having owned Quads, Apogees and Maggies, I can agree with your observation. My ESL-63 USAM had an uncanny ability to sound crystal clear at whisper levels. The Calipers were also very good in this regard, though there were problems with bass bloat, even at low volumes. Not exactly natural, but nevertheless it's nice to have for apartment settings where one really can't play too loud anyway.

RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 28, 2009 at 08:50:14
Norman M
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 Morricab wrote:
"Look at some other planar speaker as Maggies need to be a bit louder to "wake up". Electrostats or Apogees do better a lower volumes."

IMO 'truer words were never spoken'. If posssible bring a favorite recording to a Maggie dealer. Play it at the level you would consider using in your apartment, open it up a bit (or as loud as the dealer would permit); should the difference be significant to you, dont buy Maggies. A while ago some Maggie owners were (jokingly) considering a class action lawsuit against Magnepan because of the necessity of playing them LOUD in order to reveal their true color. (Years ago I'd play Tympanis 1Cs so loud that I produced feedback from my LP system.)

Among the things to like in the B&W 805's..., posted on October 27, 2009 at 06:11:50
JBen
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 ...is the high frequencies delivered by their tweeters. Sometimes they can be on the "too present" side of the equation which, surprisingly, does not mean "too bright". Yet, at all times those tweeters remain composed and crystal clear (and it is not even the Diamond one).

I bring this up to suggest that Maggies with ribbon tweeters be considered. If you are used to the B&W tweeters, you may find the QR tweeters in 1.6s lacking.

That said, I just spent Sunday afternoon listening to my music on B&W 802D (at a friend's). If I can come back from that kind of experience and STILL love my modded MMGs...

(though I do have to make mental allowances for the darn Diamond tweeters in the 802s.)

RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 27, 2009 at 04:56:17
HiOnFi
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 FWIW- I would get the 1.6s and a sub. Most people think subs are about room shaking, but they are not. A proper sub will increase the size and richness of the music. I beleve it was Robert Harley or Harry Pearson who recommends 1.6s with a sub as one of the best values in speakers.

I have 3.5 Rs with a separate sub. Depending on the music, I engage/disengage the sub.

I've got 12's in my apartment......, posted on October 26, 2009 at 21:54:30
Marc Bratton
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 A.)Because they're what I have. (B)Because the living room's small and...
(C)The building was built for crap in 1973, so it readily passes low frequency (and probably a lot of mids) to my downstairs neighbor. I've never had any complaints, and I don't use a subwoofer for precisely this reason.
That said, Barry makes a very good point about the tonal balance being more correct at lower volumes, with bigger panels. I probably wick it up just a notch or so more than I otherwise should for just this reason, trying to bring in some bass. But 3.6's are outta the question for me, but I just might be able to sneak some 1.6's in here.
And while the others are right in that you don't energize the room in the same manner as monkey coffins (exactly why dipoles work in this apt), you still have to show some restraint, which you already do. But if you go for the 3.6's, and it's too much bass, the only way you can turn down the bass is to turn down the volume. I think you'd need to be able to home demo both, see which works better for you. Don't write off DawnRazor's method of the speakers facing each other til you've tried it, either. If you have the speakers exactly vertical (as in Mye Stands), it can work a trick. No hint at all the sound's coming from those panels; they quite disappear. I suspect this method is way better for room nodes vis a vis the bass, because I'm getting way more informative bass than before. Not 'more' bass; 'better' bass.

RE: I've got 12's in my apartment......, posted on October 26, 2009 at 22:16:17
Dawnrazor
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 Marc,

Don't write off DawnRazor's method of the speakers facing each other til you've tried it, either. If you have the speakers exactly vertical (as in Mye Stands), it can work a trick. No hint at all the sound's coming from those panels; they quite disappear. I suspect this method is way better for room nodes vis a vis the bass, because I'm getting way more informative bass than before. Not 'more' bass; 'better' bass.

Tell me you arent enjoying listening to headphones? :)

But I tell you your description is dead on. The really do disappear, and if I hadnt posted my room diagram, I bet I could fool a ton of people as to where the speaker location is. And I totally agree about it sounding a LOT like live music.

Anyhow glad it is working for you. Besides the sound quality, I love how you can stash the maggies really close to the sidewalls and open the room up over a traditional setup. Try putting the mags a foot from the wall in a traditional setup. You CAN do this with sideways setup.

Which do you listen to, the mylar or the pole pieces?


RE: I've got 12's in my apartment......, posted on October 27, 2009 at 18:23:08
Marc Bratton
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 Hi DawnRazor:I'm listening to the mylar right now; at some point when I'm bored, I'll swap and see what the pole pieces sound like. Would love to have my 12's about a foot away from the front wall, but those big hulkin' Stratos monoblocs behind the 12's see to it that I can't do that. Have got the tweeters, inward, closer to the wall. But it is a much neater, tidier presentation visually, and does take up less of the living room now. Despite the fact it doesn't do audiophool 'soundstage' in PRECISELY the usual expected way, they sound so good thusly, I've been afraid to do anything else with 'em at ALL. You know:) Heh....several years ago, I swapped the old MMG's out with these 12's, and She Who Must Be Obeyed NEVER NOTICED!
Think I can do it again with 1.6's? 3.6's? Naaaah! I'd better not push my luck.

RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 26, 2009 at 21:51:20
Peter Gunn
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 The normal response here to this kind of question is always "get the big one" which is always delivered in a testoterone laden urging not dis-similar to the dorm room cheers of "CHUG...CHUG...CHUG..." which invariably accompany any attempt to imbibe beer in a vessel no smaller than an AMC Pacer.

Then I usually disagree.

But in this case I think they are right and so is their reasoning. Given your need to literally curtail volume, you need the largest resonating area you can get. Get the big ones.

And they are also correct, maggies don't tend to translate up and down thru floors so the people above and below you should be OK (they will go up better than down however). It's the people on the same floor as you most at risk of hearing them, so treat the rooms walls well too.

Good luck


It's all about the music...
Get the big ones...., posted on October 26, 2009 at 18:19:54
Barry
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One thing that drives me a little crazy listening at lower volume levels is there is less apparent bass due to the ear's lower sensitivity to low versus higher frequencies. (Fletcher-Munson curve). This would argue for any speaker with more bass if you want the tonal balance to sound right.

The (old...like me) Crown IC 150 preamp actually had a volume control with these curves built into it, e.g. more bass boost at low volumes. I sold it long ago (talk about transistor/op amp sound of the 70s - ugh). Now I just turn up the sub to match if I need to.

Enjoy the new speakers!

B
RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 26, 2009 at 17:27:54
onemug
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 Get the 3.6's. I think they will do better at your lower levels. You could play with distance from the wall behind them to increase/decrease bass and what Al said.

btw, I listen to my 3.6's at lower levels also.

3.6s, posted on October 26, 2009 at 18:18:33
sbrians
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 I agree. You want to limit the quantity of sound so to speak, why not have the best sound that you can?
I have 4 pairs and the IIb's I like a lot. For 3 series, you may have to get some good resistors to tone down the tweeters (I do that w/ all of my Maggies).

RE: Need Maggies to live.But: 1.6 or 3.6 in an apartment?, posted on October 26, 2009 at 15:12:54
kh6idf
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 As an alternative, consider a good pair of headphones. I've been listening to a newly acquired Stax 2050II setup and it's pretty good!

Yeah, headphones are nice, I have sevral, but I want more than cans., posted on October 27, 2009 at 08:30:49
Elizabeth
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 I own some Breyerdynamic, some Stax (old, given to me with the tranny box.. I haven't used them yet)
I plan on getting a headphone amp, and some AKG 701s

Dipoles are much more neighbor-friendly than monkey coffins., posted on October 26, 2009 at 14:52:23
Al Sekela
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 Dipolar bass does not pressurize the room, so much less energy goes through the walls compared to monopole (box) speakers. I don't think you have to worry about the bass. Just get the speakers that have the better presentation to your taste.

RE: Dipoles are much more neighbor-friendly than monkey coffins., posted on October 27, 2009 at 10:05:06
JBen
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 You know, that rings familiar. I live in an apartment with concrete walls & ceiling. No matter how much I ask my neighbors, they insist that they don't hear anything.

At first I just thought they were being too polite (I am kind of liked around here). So, one day I cranked the MMG system up, with no subwoofer or surrouns, while playing the Pod race in Star Wars. Hitting 100db peaks, I then visited the aparment next to me. Nothing. I am sure that in winter (all ACs are off then) I would have heard something in the background but probably not much.

The same test years earlier -- when that same apartment was empty and I had some dynamic cone speakers -- made me aware that adding a subwoofer could be too much. I already could hear enough to feel apprehensive about annoying future residents.

To this day, since I got the MMGs, I can play movies with the subwoofer and surrounds on at decent levels. Never a complaint. I do trim volumes down as the cool weather arrives. Less ACs are on and more people open their windows.

In balance, I can listen to my music -- at up to average 85db + peaks -- with no worries. For movies, I try not to abuse the subwoofer levels.

1.6s vs. 3.6s in an apartment?, posted on October 26, 2009 at 14:43:44
andyr
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 Given your prior ownership of IIbs, I can understand your wish to get some Maggies back into your music system. :-))

But you need to give us the room size and the power (into 8 & 4 ohms) of your existing amp before we can really make any helpful suggestions.

Regards,

Andy


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