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Posted on June 6, 2012 at 10:24:15
ruxtonvet
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 I notice that SACD-net only connects to Amazon for purchasing SACDs reviewed on the site. It is frequently cheaper to purchase directly from other sellers (ie ImportCD.com). I know SACD-net receives a small referral fee for each purchase made through the site which defrays some of the expenses of operating the site. Still I and I suspect most other purchasers of SACDs, have figured out that it is cheaper to go elsewhere for their purchases. I would suggest they try and work a similar referral fee with other sellers and list those sellers on their site.

 

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RE: SACD-net, posted on June 6, 2012 at 11:25:19
nairb


 
Might it not be more effective to email your thoughts to sacd-net moderator?

 

RE: SACD-net, posted on June 6, 2012 at 12:51:33
Fitzcaraldo215
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 Actually, that is not correct. Sa-cd.net links directly to a number of suppliers, but only one in the US - amazin' Amazon. But, it lists the lowest price by any Amazon partners, not the Amazon direct price, unless it is lowest.

If you link to the Amazon page for the recording, you can then link to the partner offers, usually in small print, new or used. These normally include ImportCDs, Classical Music Superstore and a host of others listed in order of price. Take your pick. Or, if exchange rates are favorable, buy it from one of several foreign suppliers also listed at sa-cd.net. I have sometimes had good results with UK suppliers due to sales, etc. And, service has been excellent.

I have never encountered a situation where I could go to an Amazon partner's site and get a better deal than I could buying it through Amazon's link to that partner. They would likely not be Amazon partners any more if they did that.

Besides, Amazon searching ain't the greatest, but I find it far better than most partner sites. But, I generally do not search Amazon for SACD's anyway. I search for the recording at sa-cd.net, which is much better, and just follow the links to get the best deal. 80% of the time, that is with an Amazon partner, but sometimes it is the Amazon direct price or occasionally, it is a UK price. I could spend days searching elsewhere, but I am unlikely to find a deal that is better. But, all the info I need is at sa-cd.net.

And, let's not forget that by buying via Amazon or its partners, there is only one checkout, one order and one invoice no matter how many disks from however many different partners. Don't know about you, but it would be a major pain to go through the selection and checkout process with several different suppliers.

So, I cannot envision a much better, more convenient way to get the best deal on a recording. And, let's not forget that sa-cd.net is a global site based in Australia. If you have specific suppliers who are consistently better than Amazon or its partners with inventory that is as good, let Zeus know. I am sure that he is unaware of them down under. But, they also need to give his site a referral fee on links from his site, as they should.

 

ImportCD is cheaper if you go directly to their site, posted on June 6, 2012 at 18:27:38
ruxtonvet
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 Amazon's ImportCD price is usually $3 more expensive than if you go to ImportCD site directly and not through the Amazon link. Check it out yourself. ImportCD is now offering 10% off on purchases which is also not available through Amazon.

 

RE: SACD-net, posted on June 7, 2012 at 00:11:55
jazz1
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 For me living in South Africa I never buy from Amazon but rather from a Am,azon seller. The reason for it is that the Amazon labelled parcel is the only one that our customs official stops, which delays the arrival by up to 10 days and then we are charged duties and VAT. If I want to buy cheap I buy from an Amazon seller, if I buy new I buy from from an English supplier like MDT which in any case are always cheaper than Amazon and are prompt with a great after sale service. Now and then I buy from Ebay but in general Amazon sellers are cheaper.
I also find British seller postage charges to be at least 1/3 cheaper than Amazon when buying single discs. Shopping around does save a great deal.

 

RE: ImportCD is cheaper if you go directly to their site, posted on June 7, 2012 at 07:02:51
Fitzcaraldo215
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 By golly, you are right. Except with a few that I tried, the difference was more like $1-$1.50. I am quite surprised that Amazon would allow one of their partners to undercut their prices via the Amazon site. I would have thought that would be in their contract. I have not seen it with several other suppliers, also including other, non-SACD items.

The only other issue is available selection. Some disks may not be available from ImportCDs that are available via Amazon's network of many partners. But, this is good to know.

I encourage you to get in contact with Zeus at sa-cd.net with the suggestion that he expand the number of US suppliers to include ImportCDs and possibly others. Start a thread in their forum. Discussions here will have no influence over there. However, other suppliers may not be willing to play ball with him on the referral fee, to which he is fully entitled to keep his excellent site going, so it may come to naught.

 

importcds requires CA residents to pay tax, posted on June 7, 2012 at 19:09:00
Jazz Inmate
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 This, coupled with shipping fees and recent price hikes for many SACDs on importcds makes it just as pricey, if not moreso to order on Amazon. At least for CA residents. Orders over $25 ship free on Amazon and I don't think they charge tax.
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... and Amazon will, also, starting Sept. 15th; better stock up now!, posted on June 8, 2012 at 13:20:04
Mudshark
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 See link:

 

An alternative, posted on June 8, 2012 at 14:27:46
tailspn
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 I'd like to suggest buying SACD's directly from the label's site. It's more expensive, and shipping costs are typically 2X that of an Amazon partner. The advantages are that you can always purchase prior to the release dates in most countries, but most importantly, the label receives about 5X the money that they do when sold through distribution.
This is particularly important with boutique/small/speciality labels. The ones we'd like to keep alive and see flourish.

 

thanks Jerry Brown! NT, posted on June 8, 2012 at 18:56:25
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RE: thanks Jerry Brown! NT, posted on June 8, 2012 at 22:59:31
JayG
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 This should come as no surprise. Anything the Democratic controlled state legislature can do to
squeeze as much $ from the the public let alone private businesses you can count on them to do.
Gee, and we wonder why California is so business unfriendly.

Reduce gov't spending and cut regulations, nah that's too obvious. On Wisconsin.

 

RE: thanks Jerry Brown! NT, posted on June 9, 2012 at 05:10:24
nairb


 
There are plenty of political forums more appropriate for partisan politics and few on audio forums are on audio forums to hear disenchanted ax-grinders knocking either side. BTW elected state and local officials of both parties have jumped on the alternative tax revenue raising train in this long recession.

 

RE: SACD-net, posted on June 9, 2012 at 18:43:28
flyingdutchman
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 He (the moderator) doesn't listen to anyone, believe me.

 

And Texas July 1 this year ^, posted on June 9, 2012 at 21:16:11
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Are you f**king joking??????? nt, posted on June 10, 2012 at 08:26:08
jkm
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No, posted on June 12, 2012 at 07:07:27
tailspn
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 I was suggesting to people who care that small very high quality labels could be helped significantly by purchasing their recordings directly from their site. Most people do not understand how thin a profit margin (if any for many recordings) these companies operate on, and how that income is used to fund future recordings. Recordings that typically require a year or more to see their first sale.

Universal or Sony these specialty labels are not.

 

Agree w/ tailspn.....support the small labels, posted on June 12, 2012 at 08:03:08
ted_b
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 I can spend $16 at Amazon, or $22 at Channel Classics. Jared sees 3-4x the $$ if I send it to him. The price difference to me is slight (if you are buying hirez you are spending hobby monies and not dealing with hand-to-mouth economics). Jared can then plan on future recordings, which I can then buy. Yadayada. As tailspn so eloquently stated, we are not recommending you need to take this approach with the big labels...they will live off Gaga and Bieber.

So, no I am NOT F***king joking, but thanks for the kind words.

 

RE: No, posted on June 12, 2012 at 08:14:15
jkm
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 I am joking, and your thoughts are commendable. But usually people want the best price they can get. I don't see that changing.

 

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