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DSD64 Download plays in WM11 with DSD Plugin

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Posted on March 20, 2008 at 03:03:00
fmak
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Those interested go to www.2L.no for this Mozart Violin download recorded in DXD. Plays well in my Sony Vaio.

RE: DSD64 Download plays in WM11 with DSD Plugin, posted on October 25, 2009 at 02:57:57
jbersin
Foobar2000- v. 0.9.6.9 (freeware) plays DXD (352/384)wav files, too.

RE: DSD64 Download plays in WM11 with DSD Plugin, posted on April 4, 2008 at 21:54:29
Bruce B
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I'd have to say the DXD MC is quite awesome!

Regards,
Bruce

RE: DSD64 Download plays in WM11 with DSD Plugin, posted on March 20, 2008 at 18:24:44
Michael Bishop
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I looked at the 2L site, being familiar with their work on SACD. 3 hours download time for the DSD64 and 8 hours download time for the DXD version discouraged me from trying the downloads. I've only got a DSL line at home here in the "country."


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Michael Bishop
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RE: DSD64 Download plays in WM11 with DSD Plugin, posted on April 4, 2008 at 18:17:35
Tony Lauck
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More like one hour for me. However, with some experience in the workings of Internet protocols, I was aware of the tricks. The problem is the long round trip time from Norway. You can only download 64 KB every round trip time between computers using a single TCP stream. Get yourself a download manager, such as http://www.leechget.net/. The maximum download rate I could get with a normal browser download was 64 KBps until I ran Leechget and set it for 10 parallel downloads. Then I got about ten times that performance, limited only by my DSL speed.

That said, because of my DAC limitations I couldn't play the DXD file until I had downsampled it to 96 Khz using SoundForge, at which point it sounded the same as the 96 24 FLAC version that was also offered on the site.

I live in rural Vermont, but am fortunate to have a good ISP.



Tony Lauck

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Does anybody sell an sacd driver for computer?, posted on March 21, 2008 at 03:14:53
theob
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This would be useful for those who have migrated to computer but have lots of sacd's.

RE: DSD64 Download plays in WM11 with DSD Plugin, posted on March 21, 2008 at 02:12:35
fmak
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I just used a download manager; I don't get chareged on connnection time or download size.

Do you know what software is needed to open the DXD files? I can't unzip it because the PC says it does not recognise the format.

RE: DSD64 Download plays in WM11 with DSD Plugin, posted on October 26, 2009 at 04:28:13
Sunya
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You can open the DXD files in iZotope RX. If you check them on the spectrum analyzer you can see the rising noise at about 50kHz. DAD sustains the use of this high sampling rate because it allows the use of gentler anti-aliasing filters which will induce less ringing in the AD process, thus better impulse response.

Probably the best way of recording would be in DSD128 which wouldn't require any filtering and then convert to PCM in the DAW with Weiss Saracon or something like that and choose your filters.

DXD from 2l, posted on March 21, 2008 at 16:46:30
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Howdy

A Pyramix editing workstation :) (http://www.merging.com/)

Conceptually a DXD file is 32bit floating point samples at 8fs per channel block interleaved. You can download their manual from their site (the Document Download section) Chapter 16 of the Pyramix Virtual Studio 6.0 User's Manual talks about file formats...

But on the other hand when I downloaded the DXD files from 2l I found that they had a .wav extension and that I could load and play them with Adobe Audition... So it appears that any software prepared for the data at a high enough rate can understand the DXD downloads from http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html

FWIW I can also play the DSD files with the plugin mentioned...

(Edited here: Oops, I should have read your message more carefully, the file is a simple .zip file (at least my WinZip 11 and WinRar 3.71 both can read them just fine) which contains a .wav file. Perhaps you got a download error. If it helps the MD5 hash of 2L38SACD_tr1_stereo_DXD.zip is 38A56C9E1EBEFFC070911E0C14A39A08.)

-Ted

RE: DXD from 2l, posted on March 30, 2008 at 08:04:44
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Geeeesshh....this is fun....and I don't have the slightest clue what the hell I'm doing. It's like a treasure hunt. I just want to see what I end up with for free.

Clueless Tom B.

They sound good here :), posted on March 20, 2008 at 22:18:40
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Howdy

Tho I don't know why they don't have surround versions in DSD or DXD...

-Ted

Can you read an sacd in the Vaio?, posted on March 20, 2008 at 15:57:11
theob
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I can't in my dell but it would be nice.

RE: DSD64 Download plays in WM11 with DSD Plugin, posted on March 20, 2008 at 04:08:08
The Sound Guy
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Very interesting.
Where do you get the DSD plugin? What is the model of you Sony Vaio?
Is it possible to re-play in non-Sony computers.

RE: DSD64 Download plays in WM11 with DSD Plugin, posted on March 29, 2008 at 08:19:30
fmak
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See my post up the forum

RE: DSD64 Download plays in WM11 with DSD Plugin, posted on March 20, 2008 at 10:12:06
fmak
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There was an instruction in the Vaio RC202 de4sktop to download the plugin. I shall try to find the details and let you know.

DSD plugin, posted on March 20, 2008 at 09:32:38
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Enjoy!

-B-

RE: DSD plugin - I downloaded it only to have to delete it as it doesn't work with MAC., posted on March 21, 2008 at 07:51:53
Is there a DSD plug-in for MAC? Hopefully through iTunes as iTunes can do 24 Bit 96kHz. Thanks in advance.

What I do with other hi-rez files is save them to iTunes 24/96 and then transfer them to DVD using iDVD so I play them on my Yamaha universal.
Music is Love,
Teresa

RE: DSD plugin, posted on March 20, 2008 at 10:14:00
fmak
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Is this for the WMP 11? I have forgotten where I got the Sony Pluginm from? It was buried in some instructions with the Vaio Rc202

DSD plugin WMP 10/11, posted on March 20, 2008 at 10:53:45
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Sony has provided a Windows Media Player plug-in which can be freely distributed to non-VAIO PC users running Windows XP/Vista and Windows Media Player 10/11. The plug-in allows for playback of DSD audio through realtime conversion to PCM. Including the installation for the plug-in is an option when burning a DSD Disc using DSD Direct and SonicStage Mastering Studio.

Happy listening...
-B-

RE: DSD plugin WMP 10/11, posted on March 21, 2008 at 05:26:01
The Sound Guy
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Do you know at what sample rate and bit rate is the resulting PCM?
Unfortunately it is not 1 bit playback.

RE: DSD plugin WMP 10/11, posted on March 21, 2008 at 08:14:47
fmak
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Have a look at the readme. DSD is only reproduced in Vaios; otherwise 2496

RE: DSD plugin WMP 10/11, posted on March 22, 2008 at 01:53:31
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fmak,

I've copied the files into my Korg MR-1,a hdd recorder which can record and play dsd files(there's a DSD converter inside).It works very well!But i'm unable to play correctly the DXD/wave file on my PC.

Software, posted on March 22, 2008 at 21:26:47
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I have found a couple of programs that will play DXD (352/384) wav files. I believe SAWstudio and Adobe Audition will do it. You might also want to check WaveLab and Samplitude.

I'm just happy as a pig in sh*t with my Pyramix DSD system!!

Regards,
Bruce

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