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New Order Remasters

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Posted on October 9, 2009 at 00:50:31
RC Daniel
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Location: Brisbane
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 Hi All

Are these a genuine improvement over the original releases or are they mere dynamically compressed rehashes suitable only for noisy environments(as are so many remasters)?

Any experiences?

TIA
Raymond
"As long as we have any intention to be right... we should be wary. So long as words have the slightest ego attachment, they are dishonest."
Charlotte Joko Beck
Yep... but just a little......, posted on October 9, 2009 at 09:59:49
Sordidman
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 And, - there were some that were re-done yet again after a screw up. I think that one of the songs on Power Corruption and Lies had a 1 second stop in the middle of a song: that needed to fixed.

I bought Movement, and Low Life and all of the Joy Divisions. On Low Life, the bonus stuff is OK, - there's a re-do of Perfect Kiss that I've heard before that's pretty good. Movement has Ceremony, - as I remember. But, overall, my take is that the bonus discs are not that thrilling, - and my recommendation is to NOT buy any of these if the pricing is much over $10 to $14 US. If you can't get a good deal on these, don't get them.

I took a listen to Movement and really played both back to back and listened critically and the new remasters were better, but not by much. Instruments separated a little better, vocals stood out a little more, drums were a little more separated; but if you aren't listening closely.... YMMV. Also, - Movement is probably the worst of the recordings. Both versions have compression, and this smacks to me of trying to make the most of minimal effort.

Peter Hook was very frustrated with the mixes, I think largely due to the bonus disks that had pops and crackles in them and was angry that the band did not get a chance to preview the mixes and do some "quality control."

Some folks asserted that it was mainly the releases in Britain that had the bulk of the issues, - but I am not sure how Rhino/Warner distributes in England.

Typical of Rhino, - buying a catalog, - and then oppressively preventing anyone being involved in the project or the distribution of similar items.

Surrendered to self preservation,
From others who care for themselves.
A blindness that touches perfection,
But hurts just like anything else.
Thanks for the comprehensive response., posted on October 10, 2009 at 01:48:51
RC Daniel
Audiophile

Posts: 1017
Location: Brisbane
Joined: November 3, 2002
 Mucho appreciated. Movement is the only orignal album release of NO that I do not have on CD (I have it on vinyl only - but no turntable at the mo), so may think about the remastered version if I can get it cheap. I won't be rushing to replace the other albums.

Thanks again

Raymond
"As long as we have any intention to be right... we should be wary. So long as words have the slightest ego attachment, they are dishonest."
Charlotte Joko Beck

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