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Posted on October 14, 2009 at 10:44:57
carcass93
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 "The subtle spatial clues that render a clear 3-D soundstage and provide air around the instruments are better..."

I guess "spatial clues" is a dead giweaway that author has no freakin' clue (pun intended) what he's talking about, but still...

Hint: person who said that considers himself audio journalist (but not many others do).

Aczel derangement Syndrome, posted on October 15, 2009 at 06:55:51
JustJoe
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 Umm, it couldbe either "cues" or "clues". Both would make sense here.
I am frankly amazed at your post. Don;t you have anything better to do?

Like listen to your mono system?
:)
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Yeah . . ., posted on October 15, 2009 at 13:43:36
Pat D
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 I didn't want to argue that--I'd be accused of arguing semantics!

Clues or cues, same thing in context. Thanks.



"Probability is the very guide to life."---Cicero
Are you driven by anything other than "Birds of feather fly together" motives?, posted on October 15, 2009 at 14:16:32
carcass93
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 You're funny creature, really...

Considering abundant availability of free online dictionaries, you could do yourself, and most importantly everybody else, a favor - and check the meaning of both words, before opening your mouth and embarassing yourself for umpteenth time.

If only you knew what you were talking about!, posted on October 20, 2009 at 08:49:39
Pat D
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 But you seem to be invincibly ignorant.

"Probability is the very guide to life."---Cicero
What's so wrong about mono??, posted on October 15, 2009 at 09:31:59
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 One of my ears is mono....;)

RE: What's so wrong about mono??, posted on October 15, 2009 at 20:46:43
JustJoe
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 Mono is good. Many purists will only listen to mono. I suspect none of them frequent this particular forum.
Just don;t expect any spatial c(l)ues.
:)
Just Joe
Blind testing of gear works: If it doesn't sound better with your eyes closed, then it doesn't sound better!
Try Clark Terry's "Out on a Limb..", posted on October 18, 2009 at 19:23:11
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 Great mono recording done with a dummy head, by Argo. Clark's first head billing. On "Mouthpiece Blues," there is more spatial info than on many of my stereo recordings. And that's played with a mono cartridge, mono Altec integrated, and a single Altec 604 in an open baffle....:)

Makes me wonder if stereo is for lazy listeners....(Double-smily!)

You sound upset... and that's good. Something must've been done right. N/T, posted on October 15, 2009 at 08:14:38
carcass93
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 N/T

Projecting again? You virtually always sound upset., posted on October 15, 2009 at 13:20:35
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 Do you have anything in you repertoire besides name calling?

"Probability is the very guide to life."---Cicero
Something's wrong with your perception then..., posted on October 15, 2009 at 13:28:56
carcass93
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 But that's the least of your problems, right?

You really must have a punk stereo system if you can't get a 3-D image., posted on October 14, 2009 at 19:37:21
Pat D
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 Maybe it's just mono?

"Probability is the very guide to life."---Cicero
RE: You really must have a punk stereo system if you can't get a 3-D image., posted on October 20, 2009 at 08:05:17
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 I will take what you say at face value and assume that you have rarely, if ever, heard a stereo that doesn't do a credible 3D image. If that is the case then you are extremely lucky because MOST of the stereos I have heard do not do a credible 3d image/soundstage. Left, right and center, fine. Depth?? Far fewer get this remotely right. Images in that 3d soundstage that also SOUND 3d (ie. the image has an almost corporeal weight to it) not more than a few percent of all the systems I have heard.

Something that has the proper spatial cues (or clues) will not only put that instrument or singer in the proper place in space it will also give them the correct physical dimensions in both width, height AND depth. This is very rare in my experience.

Your habit of pretending to not understand anything is really getting out of hand., posted on October 14, 2009 at 21:09:25
carcass93
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 It's neither smart nor funny, trust me.

98% of all reviewers nt, posted on October 14, 2009 at 12:02:05
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That's the thing... 98% would get "cues" right - but not this one., posted on October 14, 2009 at 12:18:07
carcass93
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 And there's reason for that - he not only has no idea what he's talking about, he hates it all from the bottom of his heart.

So - who?

RE: That's the thing... 98% would get "cues" right - but not this one., posted on October 15, 2009 at 07:33:16
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 "And there's reason for that - he not only has no idea what he's talking about, he hates it all from the bottom of his heart."

I can't believe I am feeding this troll, but here goes.
So let me get this straight. Aczel says" spatial clues instead of "spatial cues" and this means he hates the entire audio industry??

Wow. Talk about deranged rationalization. Perhaps this also shows that Aczel is inherently evil and laughs manically while he sits on the pot and uses stereopile as toilet paper and stick pins into his atkinson voodoo doll?

Look outside the window. Those men in white coats should be coming to take you away, anytime now.

Just Joe
Blind testing of gear works: If it doesn't sound better with your eyes closed, then it doesn't sound better!
Is he your father or something? You spend way too much time and effort..., posted on October 15, 2009 at 08:19:39
carcass93
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 ... defending that old, deaf, bitter moron of an "audio journalist".

Or may be it just feels good to belong to very exclusive 10-member fan club.

So you are whining about a typo? GMAB (nt), posted on October 15, 2009 at 05:54:46
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"Probability is the very guide to life."---Cicero
You don't get it... Why is nobody surprised? N/T, posted on October 15, 2009 at 08:11:59
carcass93
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 N/T

Perhaps you mean your logically invalid conclusion . . ., posted on October 15, 2009 at 12:14:22
Pat D
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 JustJoe nailed you on that above.

"Probability is the very guide to life."---Cicero
And what would somebody..., posted on October 15, 2009 at 13:35:09
carcass93
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 ... as logically impaired as yourself know about logically invalid conclusion, or logically valid one for that matter?

Somebody "nailed" me? I'm sorry, I just looked at the post you mentioned - looks like some Aczel-worshipping know-nothing blathering meaninglessly, didn't see anybody or anything getting nailed.

Anything else?

Gee, whoever could it be???, posted on October 14, 2009 at 13:31:53
kerr
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 Could it be? The same guy who christened his very own BS rag The Audio Critic???

Nah, surely with all of his vast experience listening to various components, Peter Aczel would know what he's talking about! Can't be him. I guess I have no idea who wrote it. :)

Watch out Spendor Harbeth!, posted on October 14, 2009 at 11:13:46
bjh
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 You have competition.

LOL
Everything matters, don't forget to tweak your placebos!
What - not even an attempt at guessing? You can do better than that... N/T, posted on October 14, 2009 at 11:16:12
carcass93
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 N/T

RE: What - not even an attempt at guessing? You can do better than that... N/T, posted on October 14, 2009 at 14:50:53
anthonyh
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 Oh come on-- it's HP of course.

Nope., posted on October 14, 2009 at 14:55:11
carcass93
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 See kerr's response above - he's got it.

That pearl is from the review that "Just Joe" mentioned below, in his humorous (to others; not to him obviously) post about Sony HD tuner.

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